Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Ink, you getting all this?
Ink wrote: <quoted text> "Catholics don't actually use bibles in churches."
She may be referring to the Book of Gospels. It is carried during the entrance.
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Penn Stae a close association with the catholic church.. No kidding HUh?
As for Planned Parenthood.. Prove it. Oh wait you can't. Never mind.
http://www.adfmedia.org/News/PRDetail/4740

I don't think there are any priests associated with the Penn State case. Nice try though.

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Again, could you be more specific. What was "banned" and what is "skewed"? I'm sure you know what you are talking about and can be precise.
The gospels of Thomas and Judas Iscariot to name two.

I'm growing a little tired of this game where you act clueless in all your responses to me. Try doing some actual research for yourself okay. I'm not interested in playing this childish game every day.

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Yeah, we call it a missal. I never see a bible at Mass.
And the content comes from..(drum roll please) the Bible!

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Nope hunting is protected by the constitution and is very very good for the environment.
Hunting is protected by the constitution? Where? Cite the case that expressly states that hunting is a constitutionally protected right.
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Ink, the Church my parents now attend do not have kneelers. There is no kneeling ever... not in that one and trust me when I say, it's a full house on Saturdays. Not sure about Sundays...
As far as the reading of the Gospel - I don't remember. You know best, being a regular, but there is kneeling (prolonged) during the giving/receiving of the sacrament in many RC churches. Is there not? Iirc, there's an earlier session involving kneeling. No?
Not sure what the point is... Bibles were never supplied (bulky), but I always assumed the Priest was reading from something holy.
Please tell me you remember "Limbo"? It's where a person who wasn't good enough for heaven, but not bad enough for hell would end up until the final judgment. Unbaptized when to Limbo, for example. Holy Ghost became the Holy Spirit. Confessions were no longer held in closets. Lots of changes.
Catholics stand during the reading of the gospel.
Most of the kneeling is during the Eucharist preparation and administration.
The priest reads from either the Lectionary or the Book of Gospels.
Limbo was the Church's early explanation for good souls not baptised. I think it was their way of saying 'I don't know'.
Purgatory is a place for souls who aren't ready for heaven but not destined for hell.
Holy Spirit sounds better than Holy Ghost. My church's confessional is still a closet.
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And the content comes from..(drum roll please) the Bible!
Some of the contents come from the bible but a missal is a missal, not a bible.

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Really? Murder is protected?
To an extent, yes. Ever heard of justifiable homicide?

One would think that if you are truly a constitution lover, you'd actually know the constitution. Otherwise, you'd be better off calling yourself a constitution - fucker. Because you're not "loving" the constitution at all if you don't know it.

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during your next plane ride, may a flock of geese kiss your turbines
Considering that Capt. "Sulli" retired, the odds of another successful landing in the Hudson are very low, so by all means, bring on the birds.

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Crucifixion was actually so heinous the Romans wouldn't use it on their own citizens. First came the beating with whips designed to tear the flesh to the bone and then the actual crucifixion was really death by asphyxiation. The cross position made it difficult to inhale and the victim had to push himself up with each breath (using his nailed feet) so the Romans would break their legs so they were unable to do the pushing up move necessary to draw in breaths.
The location of the nails was insidious because they specifically went through major nerves in the wrists and the tops of the feet adding to the excruciating pain.
Interestingly, according to the biblical records of the incident the Romans did not break Jesus' legs which allowed him to suffer much longer than the average crucifixion victim.
You bring up an interesting point...it would have made more sense for Jesus to use his miraculous powers to simply smite the Romans. He had performed several miracles already but could not save himself and put down the Romans? Seems off.
Again remember the earliest story is from 35 to 40 years after the events.. Forty years before the story was written the Romans were still using the Torture stake..The Crucifixion was just coming into "fashion" as the newest form of torture. Regardless if it were a torture stake or a cross. it was a punishment

Yes, if jesus was a god and wanted to preform a miracle that would make every one to really stand up and take notice. That would have done it.

Instead, I think jesus, if he had existed, was just a man. Trying to reform a religion. His disciples had a serious case of hero worship. That was going down a rabbit hole that no one was going to like.

And as for his "rising" after the the time on the cross. Again could mean that he faked being dead. Removed from the cross and then "rose". It is not outside of the realm of possibility. It would take great breath control and a tremendous act of will.
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The gospels of Thomas and Judas Iscariot to name two.
I'm growing a little tired of this game where you act clueless in all your responses to me. Try doing some actual research for yourself okay. I'm not interested in playing this childish game every day.
Then don't play.

These gospels are not included in the New Testament but are hardly banned.

Thomas' gospel is considered redundent and of a much later date. The anonymous writer of Judas Iscariot just doesn't relate to what the other gospel writers attest to.

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http://www.adfmedia.org/News/PRDetail/4740
I don't think there are any priests associated with the Penn State case. Nice try though.
Lets try some honest here..
http://www.forbes.com/sites/crime/2011/11/15/...
"If the reports are correct, the initial reaction of those in charge was to follow the Catholic Church model of circling the wagons, protecting the institution from scrutiny by not notifying authorities and, therefore, allowing the abuse to continue. The cause, according to the expert opinions being bandied about, is a culture that puts protecting the corporation (in this case, the university and church) above the welfare of the individual (the victimized children)."

As for your other..

http://www.adfmedia.org/News/PRDetail/4740...
"CINCINNATI — A lawsuit in which Planned Parenthood was recently found to have violated an Ohio informed consent law has been “resolved and dismissed,” according to the Alliance Defense Fund allied attorney who filed the suit. ADF-allied attorney Brian Hurley represents the parents of a girl who, at age 14, was brought to a Planned Parenthood clinic for an abortion by the 22-year-old soccer coach who impregnated her."

Thanks for proving that Planned Parenthood does not abuse children.

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Reality? They used five times the mount of blood contained within the human body during his torture scenes; either he was the fist mutant capable of regeneration or gibson had no interest in realism. There is a reason it is known as the first installment in the new genre of "christian splatterporn".

Pope john paul was old, but not that old. He had no idea what it was like. But then, he didn't actually say anything about it:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/20/movies/pope...
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Hi there. I don't think it was the purpose of Mel Gibson to make a critically acclaimed film. His purpose was to bring reality to the final hours of Christ's life. When Pope John Paul was asked about it, he said "it is as it was". Pretty succinct.
I have never taken the Old Testament literally. Job, in my mind may just represent the faith everyone is supposed to have in God.
Although I do believe that God does test us.
On another note that can be debated. The Shroud of Turin which has some controversy as to it's authenticity, do to carbon dating does reveal, if real, that Christ suffered excruciatingly.
Last I heard the dating was done on the edges of the Shroud which were repaired after the fire.

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Not ugly, just not as "pure" as we like to think things are.
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Everyone deserves a competent defence for exactly the reasons you said but we were talking about high paid lawyers who knowingly defend guilty people through manipulation and technicalities. Not that it's not there job but what an ugly way to make a living.
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Lets try some honest here..
http://www.forbes.com/sites/crime/2011/11/15/...
"If the reports are correct, the initial reaction of those in charge was to follow the Catholic Church model of circling the wagons, protecting the institution from scrutiny by not notifying authorities and, therefore, allowing the abuse to continue. The cause, according to the expert opinions being bandied about, is a culture that puts protecting the corporation (in this case, the university and church) above the welfare of the individual (the victimized children)."
As for your other..
http://www.adfmedia.org/News/PRDetail/4740...
"CINCINNATI — A lawsuit in which Planned Parenthood was recently found to have violated an Ohio informed consent law has been “resolved and dismissed,” according to the Alliance Defense Fund allied attorney who filed the suit. ADF-allied attorney Brian Hurley represents the parents of a girl who, at age 14, was brought to a Planned Parenthood clinic for an abortion by the 22-year-old soccer coach who impregnated her."
Thanks for proving that Planned Parenthood does not abuse children.
You are totally dishonest in trying to connect Penn to the Church. There is no connection.

The coach served time for raping the girl and PP never informed the authorities. This is one of many lawsuits across the country.

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Nah...La has +6 armor (as my dweeb friends tell me) and they just have +1 blunt arrows.
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Quickly - Venus, there is not much time to waste. La is going to get pulverized and I don't think we want to be caught in the vicinity. I see a bomb shelter sign. Run, run as fast as you can!
Best wishes La, it was really nice knowing you. I will always remember you with fondness...

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Again remember the earliest story is from 35 to 40 years after the events.. Forty years before the story was written the Romans were still using the Torture stake..The Crucifixion was just coming into "fashion" as the newest form of torture. Regardless if it were a torture stake or a cross. it was a punishment
Yes, if jesus was a god and wanted to preform a miracle that would make every one to really stand up and take notice. That would have done it.
Instead, I think jesus, if he had existed, was just a man. Trying to reform a religion. His disciples had a serious case of hero worship. That was going down a rabbit hole that no one was going to like.
And as for his "rising" after the the time on the cross. Again could mean that he faked being dead. Removed from the cross and then "rose". It is not outside of the realm of possibility. It would take great breath control and a tremendous act of will.
I tend to agree. I think Jesus was probably very charismatic and passionate and he attracted followers and the rest is, well, history.

It may be possible that Jesus was unconscious and near death and survived. Stranger things have happened.

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use of crucifixion as execution was rare, but use of it as punishment wasn't as uncommon. Usually the prisoner was just tied to the cross for a few hours; no flaying, stabbing, etc. It was torturous but not lethal.

Of course, there is not one roman or jewish mention of such an unusual execution or trial, so it's pretty moot. Maybe he used his magic powers to make people think it all happened while he went out for he roman equivalent of a latte.
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Crucifixion was actually so heinous the Romans wouldn't use it on their own citizens. First came the beating with whips designed to tear the flesh to the bone and then the actual crucifixion was really death by asphyxiation. The cross position made it difficult to inhale and the victim had to push himself up with each breath (using his nailed feet) so the Romans would break their legs so they were unable to do the pushing up move necessary to draw in breaths.
The location of the nails was insidious because they specifically went through major nerves in the wrists and the tops of the feet adding to the excruciating pain.
Interestingly, according to the biblical records of the incident the Romans did not break Jesus' legs which allowed him to suffer much longer than the average crucifixion victim.
You bring up an interesting point...it would have made more sense for Jesus to use his miraculous powers to simply smite the Romans. He had performed several miracles already but could not save himself and put down the Romans? Seems off.

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The priest uses a bible; the congregation does not. The RCC is far more about dogma than bout the actual book. I went to a helluva lot of masses as a kid; I don't think I ever heard them read from revelation.
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<quoted text>Yes, It was a catholic church.

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Limbo, where souls danced under ever-lowering poles for all eternity, was shut down by the vatican. Which is an amazing thing when you think about it; they edited eternity.
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Ink, the Church my parents now attend do not have kneelers. There is no kneeling ever... not in that one and trust me when I say, it's a full house on Saturdays. Not sure about Sundays...
As far as the reading of the Gospel - I don't remember. You know best, being a regular, but there is kneeling (prolonged) during the giving/receiving of the sacrament in many RC churches. Is there not? Iirc, there's an earlier session involving kneeling. No?
Not sure what the point is... Bibles were never supplied (bulky), but I always assumed the Priest was reading from something holy.
Please tell me you remember "Limbo"? It's where a person who wasn't good enough for heaven, but not bad enough for hell would end up until the final judgment. Unbaptized when to Limbo, for example. Holy Ghost became the Holy Spirit. Confessions were no longer held in closets. Lots of changes.

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