OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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Words wrote:

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Exactly and proving it along the way.
Everything Obama says is a truth is a bold-face lie and they prove it!
Everything Obama says is a lie, they prove that Obama is in fact the liar and prove that too!
I have layed out the truth and linked the official sites that prove it! If you reject it then so be it but, the people have a right to the truth of what Obama and the Democrats are doing to destroy America. Obama's hope is that most Americans will ignore the truth and that is simply not going to happen.
How about you post some official links to what you call the truth since you can't?
Of course the first one you can start with is the deficit you claim for January 20th, 2009 because the official deficit is just as I have posted along with the proof.
Prove it otherwise!
Obama has excepted it as stated so all the spin you attempt fails miserably!

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WMCOL wrote:

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Ever heard of cutting the fat? Streamlining? Getting rid of waste? Cutting overhead? Right-wingers scream for all of those things and then when Obama does it they cry foul. Who has studied to see what is really the truth of the matter, what is stronger and what is not? Certainly not right-wingers with their bias and prejudice against Obama.

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TAMARA wrote:

<quoted text>And on top of all this Pres. Obama and his followers keep telling everyone this will make and insure the Medicare system. I just never grasped when you take funding away from something how exactly that could make it stronger. I guess this is my old age setting in because I thought to make a system stronger you had to add to it. MY MY time do fly by fast. I missed the class teaching taking it away makes it grow stronger.

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WMCOL wrote:

Example of how propaganda works. Anytime the spiel starts with the conclusion that someone "stole" something, the agenda of deceit and misrepresentation is in place.
Theft is only existent upon the finding of a trier of fact such as a judge or jury.
All of facts, issues and law must be presented and EACH SIDE must have opportunity under rules of evidence to examine the facts, issues, and law.
But no, the cons have concluded without a charge and without the judicial process that Obama "stole" something. They have convicted him without due process. Vigilantes. Lynching. And they want to be in power. Heaven forbid!

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Words wrote:

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That is simply not true. The fact is at some point all healthcare will be rolled into one size fits everyone under Obamacare and those that have will pay for theirs as well as those that do not pay if Obamacare Tax fails to be repealed. All I can tell you at this point is read all that I posted this morning by clicking the link. Those all are the Governments actual facts as I have posted them. The Obama Death Panel will not be so easy to get rid of now as will the rest of it but if Republicans can do even better than they did in 2010 then there is hope to stop all this mess. We shall see at the end of the day, November 6th, 2012. Notice that CBO link has .gov at the end means it is a Government website and one of the is the Whitehouse website and one so on.

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Words wrote:

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That is simply not true. The fact is at some point all healthcare will be rolled into one size fits everyone under Obamacare and those that have will pay for theirs as well as those that do not pay if Obamacare Tax fails to be repealed. All I can tell you at this point is read all that I posted this morning by clicking the link. Those all are the Governments actual facts as I have posted them. The Obama Death Panel will not be so easy to get rid of now as will the rest of it but if Republicans can do even better than they did in 2010 then there is hope to stop all this mess. We shall see at the end of the day, November 6th, 2012. Notice that CBO link has .gov at the end means it is a Government website and one of the is the Whitehouse website and one so on.

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I thoroughly agree with the points you're making. Nonetheless, the Republican party needs to strip away from corporate favor in a big, bad way.

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The cover of Newsweek this week?
Barack Obama has to go. I thought it was a photoshopped Newsweek cover, but nope.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek.html

Words wrote:

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And I totally agree with you on that point as well. Republicans are far from perfect and it all boils down to... we have to make do with what we have until we can do better. I suspect there will be many Republicans that will need to be traded outt for other Republicans in 2016 and then again in 2020 until we get America back on solid footing.

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The cover of Newsweek this week?
Barack Obama has to go. I thought it was a photoshopped Newsweek cover, but nope.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek.html

Words wrote:

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That is simply not true. The fact is at some point all healthcare will be rolled into one size fits everyone under Obamacare and those that have will pay for theirs as well as those that do not pay if Obamacare Tax fails to be repealed. All I can tell you at this point is read all that I posted this morning by clicking the link. Those all are the Governments actual facts as I have posted them. The Obama Death Panel will not be so easy to get rid of now as will the rest of it but if Republicans can do even better than they did in 2010 then there is hope to stop all this mess. We shall see at the end of the day, November 6th, 2012. Notice that CBO link has .gov at the end means it is a Government website and one of the is the Whitehouse website and one so on.

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Words wrote:

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So your claim is CBO is a fraud? The Whitehouse website is a fraud? The Secretary of Health is a fraud? Well... I'll be damned. Guess all we have left is take your word for it? Dumbass, are you or are you not going to post any proof what I posted is wrong? Solid proof is not your word for it, it is actual facts from the actual source and not some damn right or left wing bullshit!

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TAMARA wrote:

<quoted text>I am aware that Obamacare is trying to get health care where one size fits all except for your senior citizens. I do know the way it stands now who will be paying their own way and who that pays teir own way will still be paying for others. Some where I wrote down how much the government will pay according to their income. Some will be added to the medicaid part. Some will get all their health ins paid for and as the income bracket goes up they will get a certain percent of health from the government which is the people that pay their way. Just as it is now but more of a legal note of middle class you will pay for any and all that shows just cause they cannot. Now what happen with this plan I am not sure where the money will be gotten to fund obamacare.

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TAMARA wrote:

<quoted text>Do you work in anyone of the major hospitals around here? Have you ever worked in a major hospital any where. You mean you actually have not seen changes with the medical organization here lately? All major hospitals that have bought and open medical clinics around here how do you their lab system works? You go to the clinic and they draw your blood or what ever. If just routine lab work it maybe processed right there but normally your lab work is sent to the major hospital that they are with, like Mercy, OU, or Integeris and Those hospitals are not adding lab personal to handle the new over flow. Now this people are expected to do the work of 2 lab people to handle all that is being sent in. Now how is that for streamlining for you? This streamlining is not just going on in the labs but in other areas.

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WMCOL wrote:

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Streamlining by cutting Administrative personnel does not effect the work lab techs do. Bet you thought Administrators did the blood testing. They don't.

DistinctlyOK wrote:

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The money was never there.
No matter how many times I say it, nobody understands. The money. Was. Never. There.
What the government relies on annually to pay off the military and all of the outreach/agency projects started by the federal government is taxation, and by relying on taxation, they're effectively deficit funding. They're paying off projects and functions before they have the money, and then they're filling in with citizen tax funding. The treasury has been low for about 20 years now, and we just keep spending more.

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Words wrote:

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So your claim is CBO is a fraud? The Whitehouse website is a fraud? The Secretary of Health is a fraud? Well... I'll be damned. Guess all we have left is take your word for it? Dumbass, are you or are you not going to post any proof what I posted is wrong? Solid proof is not your word for it, it is actual facts from the actual source and not some damn right or left wing bullshit!