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You are judged by the comapany you keep and apparently they were friends of the accussed
i think that says it all. And i am sure their families new wht their boys were and were not.

It all starts with the parents life stlye so if you are a parent of a young black kid it is time you start being a parent and quit failing your kids. Or yours might be next!

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Its a fact! The black boys want to kill and be killed....
down there lives in thugville Okmulgee. The whites and Indians will turn on there kind. We will turn our own race in to the law. The Blacks???? Naw,, they protect themselves and then play the race card. Go to a small dumb-o-crat small okie town and then talk about it. Go to the local DHS office and see who is wearing Nikes and driving a caddy and needs food stamps with thumping 15's in the trunk. That can't be bothered to drive to Tulsa for a job muchless speak third grade english. You think its racist so be it. I say wild wild west with a bump.
Remember the murder in Muskogee last year? They found the car with a tarp over it in Okmulgee parked next to a house on the northside of town and the home owner knew nothing. And what the lib. press didn't do is ask why you know nothing about a car parked next to your home that smells like death. Black guy walks.
I know first responders from south Tulsa Co. and Creek Co. Ive been asked why are 99% of gun crimes and murders in Okmulgee on the northside of town? They have seen young blacks with there heads blown off and it never hits the Tulsa press. Or DA idiot just sweeps it under the we can't say anything BS carpet as not to start a race riot.
The Black Rodeo is coming to Okmulgee. The blacks got so bad over the years the cops now have to act like members of a insane police dept. We use to have a big party... No more,, the blacks want to kill each other. They dont want to kill whites, indians or mex. Just each other. We can't even have a good cruise night anymore cause some of them want to blast there motorcycles down the side walks at 100 mph. And when the police catch them it boarders on a war. I use to enjoy going down and setting up in front of Harlen Ford. sipping on the jack over the eveing and enjoy a so called adult public evening. Getting some smoked ribs and if need be walking home. Those days are over.
So get over it you bleeding heart idiots. The black community is **** bent on killing its self. and ready to lie there ****'s off to the grave. Be it Okmulgee, Tulsa, OKC, LA or NYC. And its nobodys fault but there own. Funny how atleast one of the mothers of a slane young man knew who the so called murder was. But did she act to remove him from the street? But she knew?!?!
Fact is in my little world of depressed dumb-o-crat Okmulgee. All the races but the blacks police themselves to a point. The black community knows who there thugs are and don't do a thing about it. But when one gets killed they have funeral as if the gov. was killed. And Jesus was not the only man that walked on water. The whole time knowing the real deal and playing the damed.
I can vouch for some of the things they have mentioned about Okmulgee. My husband worked for a locally owned buisness for well over 10 years out there. Given they dealt with cars and trucks, he met just about every type in Okmulgee. The things he says about the rodeo are true. All the buisness close when the rodeo rolls in.

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#258
Aug 8, 2008
 
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I've lived in Okmulgee all my life and this post is a bunch of bull! Please people grow up, it's not the people from Okmulgee that makes the rodeo miserable, it's the people that come from other towns that make the rodeo bad. I work for the City of Okmulgee and please don't assume that the police of OKmulgee have not been giving the go aheads to matter the matter worse. They have to show other law enforcements that come and help with the rodeo that they can handle the crowd and keep things under control, so they won't look like they don't know what they are doing. People sit back and take a close look this forum is not about Okmulgee, it's about two young men who had a whole life time ahead of them and now that has been taking away. They have crime everywhere...
Then why do local buisness close the weekend of the rodeo? You probably know my husband if you ever had anything done to your car in that town and I dont mean mechanical.
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#259
Aug 8, 2008
 
Charles wrote:
Like I mentioned before...this is sad for sure, but stuff like this happens when you enter into a thug lifestyle...you make LOTS of enemies and once you cross the wrong thug, you are most likely gonna end up dead like these two.
Ya mess with fire, you will get burned.
This time I have to agree with you.

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Aug 8, 2008
 
KAY wrote:
<quoted text>Are you referring to the myspace page ? If so then maybe it was more a prefer pressure thing wanting to look cool but really they did not belong with any gang? just a thought we do not know for sure if they were in a gang
my prayers are still for the families who loss the boys even if they were in a gang the families still need peace and respect and yes it dose make it hard knowing that they wanted to change and were trying. maybe the one who killed the boys was trying to keep them from talking ?just wondering what could be the motive? was it because they were not gang members and wore the colors and used gang slang on myspace or because they were wannabes ? or because thay were in and wanted out you know blood in blood out kind of thing the gangs have? or because of drugs ? did it have anything to do with why one was to be in court?lots to be anwsered this is all things the police will look into to help find justice for the boys
No I am talking about a whole nother thread regarding these boys and them being missing. He may have just decided that day he was changing. He was just arrested or charged I should say on July 24th for unlawful posession of a cd with intent to distribute.

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Aug 8, 2008
 
2PiTBaBiESnProUD wrote:
It doesn't matter what they have done...it is not our right as human beings to take the life of someone else into our own hands. I'm sure those of you who claim "they deserved it...so and so was going to court...they were thugs, etc" have got some nasty little secrets. You had better hope none of the killers decide to take your life. The point is...they were KIDS. All of the senseless bs needs to stop. Who cares if they had tattoos. I have two. Who cares if they had a run-in with the law...i got in trouble because I didn't pay (forgot all about it) a SEATBELT ticket in BA and got put in jail (a year later)! Things happen and hopefully you learn from it. How about putting your selfishness aside and be respectful of the families that are grieving.God forbid anything every happen to any of you.
Go ahead---start talking big and bad---nothing any of you freakshows say will bring me down. I'm doing right in my life and that is all that matters. Remember, everyone makes mistakes and whatever happened with these boys will come to light one day. I sure hope everyone who is in here bashing the kids and families never makes a mistake!
ITA...another thing that is sad is ppl assume because their myspace indicates thug/gang that they were. Let me tell you, my daughters, sweet as can be hung w/ some boys that I wouldn't say was thugs, but have no direction in life. Well on my daughters myspace she is "reppin" as she calls it, the color RED. She doesn't do blue for gang related reasons. Now is she a thug, no not at all. I don't like the message in her choice right now....as she is clueless to what it really looks like. We live in BA, north, nice neighborhood, she is an outstanding athlete and very smart young lady. I just think kids are easily influenced by peers to "fit in". However that is where parenting comes in, although kids face peer pressure everyday, we have to keep them focused. She is focused, she is just still at an impressionable age. We by no means even come close to living in the "hood". Thuggism behavior, if you will, is everywhere. She has never even had a fight, I would be scared if she ever tried to. My point is just because their myspace has gang related signs, doesn't mean they are thugs much less belong to one.
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#262
Aug 8, 2008
 
I just think things where a lot different before (time out), I mean we where disiplend a lot different than kids today and I think that has a lot to do with it. If we started spanking, NOT BEATING there behinds again, mabe this senseless crap would stop over time.
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Never Understand wrote:
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I came from my mothers womb, created as a gift from God. How about you?
You said you were created as a gift from God LOL LOL
You were created because two people decided to have sex and the woman got pregnant.
God did not have one thing to do with it.
JUST TWO OLD HORNY PEOPLE GETTING THEIR JOLLIES OFF IS WHAT CREATED YOU.
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Aug 8, 2008
 
becky amason wrote:
this is for the best, really. they were just rapists or murderers in the making anyways. at least they wont get the chance to hurt anyone now.
Wow, Becky, how can you be so cold and heartless. May God have mercy on you!!

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MOLLY wrote:
This is to all you bleeding hearts...
I bet you would feel differently about these two little thugs if they killed one of your own.
I don't feel sorry at all for the families, they are probably no better than these two little thugs. After all, where do you think they got their upbringing?
At least my family is safer tonight with these little uncivilized hoodlums off the streets.
I say... GOOD RIDDANCE !!!!!!!!!
Molly, Molly, Molly...
Two lives, lost and this is your response. Lets say you raised your kids the best you knew how, with all the means you had. Regardless of the fact that you tried your best to teach them right from wrong, they choose thier own path and decided to be a little less than perfect. lets say someone shot them. even though they were not perfect they are still your kids. You still love them. Do you think who ever killed your child, did the killer do society a favor by killing your child. Thats what this forum is for. But seriously, stop and think about it. I am not trying to bash you, please don't take it that way. I am just disagreeing with you. everyone is entitled to thier opinion, but some of yours is pretty hard.
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#266
Aug 8, 2008
 
Why does this all have to be negative and childish. This is a sad tragedy, but it's over now. Some of you are getting all worked up over things that you can not control. Things that are not important. Get over yourselves, maybe go out to lunch today or do some laundry, something productive. Being so negative will only cause you to have ulcers. There is too much hate in the world, and it just seems to be getting worse. If these kids were related to you, you would feel some kind of remorse, regardless of their past. Because I find it hard to believe that they were always bad seeds. There has to be some good qualities about them, they are too young to have been totally ruined. I tend to try to see the good in everyone, not the bad. And yes I have been burned, but guess what? I have met a lot of interesting people and have learned alot because I don't judge everyone. What a sad life to think you are so much better than everyone else. I think the job of being perfect has been taken, by GOD!!!So some of you need to get over yourselves, I hope nothing tragic never happens to you or your families because you might find yourself totally alone in your despair.

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I LOVE CRAMER wrote:
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ITA...another thing that is sad is ppl assume because their myspace indicates thug/gang that they were. Let me tell you, my daughters, sweet as can be hung w/ some boys that I wouldn't say was thugs, but have no direction in life. Well on my daughters myspace she is "reppin" as she calls it, the color RED. She doesn't do blue for gang related reasons. Now is she a thug, no not at all. I don't like the message in her choice right now....as she is clueless to what it really looks like. We live in BA, north, nice neighborhood, she is an outstanding athlete and very smart young lady. I just think kids are easily influenced by peers to "fit in". However that is where parenting comes in, although kids face peer pressure everyday, we have to keep them focused. She is focused, she is just still at an impressionable age. We by no means even come close to living in the "hood". Thuggism behavior, if you will, is everywhere. She has never even had a fight, I would be scared if she ever tried to. My point is just because their myspace has gang related signs, doesn't mean they are thugs much less belong to one.
Umm red is a gang color. The Bloods.
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Aug 8, 2008
 
MOLLY wrote:
This is to all you bleeding hearts...
I bet you would feel differently about these two little thugs if they killed one of your own.
I don't feel sorry at all for the families, they are probably no better than these two little thugs. After all, where do you think they got their upbringing?
At least my family is safer tonight with these little uncivilized hoodlums off the streets.
I say... GOOD RIDDANCE !!!!!!!!!
You don't feel sorry for the families? Karma karma karma. You ol racist b!tch

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Oh and another thing Cramer, they walked the walk one of them got picked up possession with intent to distribute!!!!! I guess they was just trying out the thug label and decided sicne they got caught they where gonna change. Some of you are so naive.
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Molly, Molly, Molly...
Two lives, lost and this is your response. Lets say you raised your kids the best you knew how, with all the means you had. Regardless of the fact that you tried your best to teach them right from wrong, they choose thier own path and decided to be a little less than perfect. lets say someone shot them. even though they were not perfect they are still your kids. You still love them. Do you think who ever killed your child, did the killer do society a favor by killing your child. Thats what this forum is for. But seriously, stop and think about it. I am not trying to bash you, please don't take it that way. I am just disagreeing with you. everyone is entitled to thier opinion, but some of yours is pretty hard.
If I had a child that was a menace to society and he was killed due to his actions I would expect people to feel the same way I feel about these two thuggy hoods that got shot and killed.
Anyone in their right mind would feel the way I do.
It is time something cleaned up the crime rate in Tulsa and it looks as though the blacks are doing so by killing each other off.

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MOLLY wrote:
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If I had a child that was a menace to society and he was killed due to his actions I would expect people to feel the same way I feel about these two thuggy hoods that got shot and killed.
Anyone in their right mind would feel the way I do.
It is time something cleaned up the crime rate in Tulsa and it looks as though the blacks are doing so by killing each other off.
Do you have children? I am thinking "no". If you do, I pray you never have to find out.

I have worked the housing authority, have worked the high schools, and I work with prisoners and communtiy service.

My work has taught me alot, about the individuals as well as thier families. I can tell you alot of kids do turn around. Alot of adults as well.

I am the first to admit that work has taught me alot about not blaming it on thier so called up bringing and families. The truth is, you would be amazed how many of these come from very loving, law abiding civilzed families. Please your opinion is your opinion, but do not blame it on the families.

I pray for you. I pray one day you find peace in your heart.

You don't just segregate by race, you segregate by class, and geography. You are truly a prejudice person and you need help.

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Coasters wrote:
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You are assuming... and Your post is offensive to everyone concerned.. I hope the families do not read this post... You seem to be heartless
She's not heartless, she's ignorant and scared. She knows she's a small, pathetic person. She's scared of anyone or anything she doesn't understand...weak people make me sick. You're a useless stain on society Molly...jump!
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What a tragedy......Everybody can have an opinion, it looks like not everybody has a heart! These families are in my thoughts and prayers.
As a fellow Tulsan. thank you for those who express your best wishes to the family, and SHAME on those that chose to make negative and/or hateful comments!
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You said you were created as a gift from God LOL LOL
You were created because two people decided to have sex and the woman got pregnant.
God did not have one thing to do with it.
JUST TWO OLD HORNY PEOPLE GETTING THEIR JOLLIES OFF IS WHAT CREATED YOU.
You obviously are not a spiritual person to make such a comment. I of course know the 'physical' aspects involved in creating a life, but I give the praise of that blessing to God (which is my right to do so)

I am not a fanatic religious person - But I do believe in God and his almight powers.
I am not a racist - But I do believe we each possess racism in our hearts towards others and spew negativity amoungst ourselves out of stupidity and weakness.
I am not perfect - But I pray for forgiveness for those sins I may commit during my lifetime.

A little prayer, some thankfulness and respect for one another is something all of us need in the age of time that we live in today, especially yourself.
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MOLLY wrote:
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Telling the truth about a situation never makes anything worse.
That is what is wrong with this country today.
You hypocrites sprew off at the mouth like as if you are not "RACIST" if that is even a word.
Crap, Blacks are more "RACIST" toward Whites than Whites are toward Blacks.
LIVE BY THE SWORD, DIE BY THE SWORD.
Tulsa is a safer place tonight.
I am happy to see that there are less thugs on the streets tonight.
Right now is not the time and place to show hatred towards anyone... There were two boys murdered and there is no reason for that.How do I know, you ask? Because I am very close to derek russells family and I personally know him. And that is not derek. What everybody is saying in their comments hurt very bad. We have a lot of stereotyping and not enough caring in this world. I really hope you don't have any kids. Because the things you are saying is terrible. Your kids are probably troublemakers and you are ashamed of that...so you hide behind a computer screen and make yourself look big. you are not nobody. Please watch you say and do... Like I said the mothers have access to the computer just like everybody else. And the stuff that are being said are very hurtful. The mothers just lost their child they do not need all of this!!!
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