SUNTRAN & RTA Rate increases, expansion boondoggles Q&A

Hidden on the contractors website is erroneous info that might be old as well.
http://www.suntran.com/fare_increase_Q&A_...
Is the current direct link though for propiganda which DOES NOT PROVIDE A DATE FOR THE COUNCIL VOTE!!!But it claims it could be in less then three weeks! It also lacks any info even in the meta data about when it was written.

It's a popup window on there site!

Also it seems that since last week perhaps the proposal has changed for the worse. Yet no news article yet has reported this FACT.

Who authored the answers? Why do our papers omit the "for example" on the question of fare increases? Why not remind the public that it might not in fact be possible to cut service below the present level given both politics and law.

I'm going to go ahead and setup a blog. Check the relies to this for it's name and address etc.

I maybe without sufficient steam to get the proper blog site going tonight despite the threat of an April Council 'vote.'

But this thread maybe the best place anyway if I can just figure out how to link a story link to it.

If only the facts could find some audience we might be able to get another election scheduled.

It's not merely the absurd cost of using suntran instead of a minivan for a large family- that would pay in passes more then the loan payment unless there income was under $1500 a week. Yeah I got that one backwards- it would seem- but in realty you would have to earn an outrageous amount to spend that much, or get the 'fractional' increase.

What bullshit!

I ask the following question. What is the increase in average revenue per BOARDING! Currently it's probably unbelievably low- but as proposed it's not much higher!

THE MOST EXPENSIVE WAY TO RIDE WILL CONTINUE TO BE IF YOU ARE POOR AND PAY DAILY! To ignore the fact that being denied a discounted daypass is or is not a reason to be a great part of the problem in falsely albeit founding the notion that there is any subsidy at all in our town beyond that for the poor.

TO claim that the cost of the service if everyone paid three bucks a day, would exceed this burden on passengers, is more then a stretch. To claim that most of the public will pay that- it's stunning....

To still push a proposal that has the most expensive route suffer no increase in fare is as shameless as the management contract itself.

The info needs to in fact be on suntran.com with a forum there. The driver runsheets being there is an interesting development.

THat the linking to the hearing info, and "more" link, are designed to NOT BE VIEWED IS INARGUABLE!

And it's likely that despite there not tracking it this could be proved.

In order to read the answers one must:

Scroll down or maximise a popup window that must first be viewed, and then find the link at the very bottom that does not hint as to being what one wanted in the first place.

That attendance is low is proof that as has been reported "compliance" with law is the goal, not actually heeding the spirit attempted to be coded by Congress- to actually further mass transit being able to get the support it deserves.

I have tried to sign up as an editor here and have submitted the link without being one as well:

PREVIEW

Poor will pay an extra buck if they only want to pay once a day...

Transit Current & Proposed Fares Fare Categories Current Fares Proposed Fares

Cash $ 1.00 $ 1.25 Quarterly $ 75.00 $ 94.00 Annual $275.00 $344.00
Express Routes Cash $ 1.00 $ 2.00 Monthly $ 28.00 $ 56.00 (Aero Park Express route fares remain unchanged) Day Pass $ 2.00 $ 3.00 College UA Annual $275.00 $344.00 PCC Semester $115.00 $144.00 Van Tran Full Fare $ 2.00 $ 2.50

Extended Entry ↓
The pasted excerpts show that recent http://www.google.com/search... reports have been incorrect apparently misunderstanding the "two ride" rate for the daypass etc. The linking to page has had the dates from last weeks 'meetings' removed. Please help me provide the additional scrutiny deserved.

I just visited the city department messing up our bus system again and was very surprised to not just find the slideshow BUT flash media VIDEO of every regular and study meeting session for those elected!
I also checked the clerk etc's website for a clue about these now two full months archived! NOPE.
ALSO YOu can't skip to the section you want to watch and saving isn't instant, but with additional software at least is doable and then you can not have to wait an hour, two, or more to see and hear what you need.
One way of finding out how many minutes in you want to wait for is to download the audio only file,and then you can skip around and find out when whatever happens happens.
The slides even without audio though are shocking in forecasting, in the same detail!!,two other increases some 4 & 8 years down....

new links to pro-car masstransit dissing propiganda hot off 'press'
Signed by a assistant manager, failing to indicate when the notice was published, a fresh crop of lies bought out of lack of reaction to prior lies awaits the courageous:
http://www.ci.tucson.az.us/agdocs/20080603/ss...
http://www.ci.tucson.az.us/agdocs/20080603/ss...
WARNING THE ABOVE LINKS ARE TO NONSENSE AND SHOULD NOT BE VISITED FOR INFORMATION!!!!
The attachments photocopied are available from prior posted link here but the final attachment is also new apparently.
Also they may try to let two legal notices pass muster for the next eight years! When in fact Tucson is in contempt right now for not putting the date of either meeting on it's transportation nor management companies site nor publicising these legally mandated opportunities for open government anywhere!
I think they spend hundreds of dollars for every 'comment' referenced. With a straight face the manager qualifies a city of hundreds of thousands from MERE DOZENS OF COMMENTS NONE OF WHICH ARE REALLY REPRESENTATIVE!
The increase in operatiing cost is only ONE FIFTH of the fuel cost increase percentage wise! The bragging about going beyond federal law in offering income subsidy out of fare box revenue ignores the fact that BECAUSE OF THAT THE CLAIM OF UNDER ONE FIFTH RECOVERY IS COMPLETELY BOGUS AS AR#E COMPARISONS TO ASKING PRICE OF OTHER COMPANIES!
We spend less, and charge, percentage wise, MUCH MORE, then any other system!!!! Other towns have mass transit. We just rip off money from the few ethical people who ride and spend it on undesirables keeping them off sidewalks at not public expense, but especially against the interests of those who would otherwise ride even without a subsidy at all, or who already pay more then the city spends on the service provided!

video can now be used by not just transit department visitors
Channel 12 now hosts archived video of all 2008 meetings!