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Sep 11, 2008

Russia's recognition of Georgian areas raises hopes of its own separatists

MOSCOW : Tatarstan is a long way from South Ossetia. While South Ossetia is a poor border region of Georgia battered by war, Tatarstan is an economic powerhouse in the heart of Russia, boasting both oil ...

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Lithuanian

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Full independence for Russian colonies:

The Adygea Republic
The Tatarstan Republic
The Chechnya Republic
The Dagestan Republic
The North Ossetia
The Bashkortostan Republic
The Karelia Republic
The Altai Republic
The Kabardino-Balkaria
The Buryatia Republic
The Chuvash Rebublic
The Ingushetia Republic
The Kalmykia Republic
The Karachayevo-Circassian Republic
The Khakasia Republic
The Komi Republic
The Mari Republic
The Mordovian Republic
The Sakha Republic (Yakutia)
The Tyva Republic
The Udmurtia Republic
Lithuanian

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After recognition of the independence of 3 Caucasian states: Chechnya, Dagestan and Ingushetia, US planning to recognition the independence of Adygea, Altai, Buryatia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Kalmykia, Karachay-Cherkessia, Karelia, Komi, Mari El, Mordovia, Sakha, North Ossetia, Tatarstan, Tuva, Udmurtia, Khakassia, and Chuvashia.

It is assumed that the "leadership" of these recognized by the US countries would constitute a so-called "governments in exile", which will be located in the West.
Meanwhile Wayne also announced a partial mobilization of the Navy, caused by the Russian aggression against Georgia.
Amerikieciu atsakas i Osetijos ir Abhazijos nepriklausomybiu paskelbima:
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Sep 10, 2008
 
Lithuanian wrote:
After recognition of the independence of 3 Caucasian states: Chechnya, Dagestan and Ingushetia, US planning to recognition the independence of Adygea, Altai, Buryatia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Kalmykia, Karachay-Cherkessia, Karelia, Komi, Mari El, Mordovia, Sakha, North Ossetia, Tatarstan, Tuva, Udmurtia, Khakassia, and Chuvashia.
It is assumed that the "leadership" of these recognized by the US countries would constitute a so-called "governments in exile", which will be located in the West.
Meanwhile Wayne also announced a partial mobilization of the Navy, caused by the Russian aggression against Georgia.
Amerikieciu atsakas i Osetijos ir Abhazijos nepriklausomybiu paskelbima:
good joke, i like that

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Mr. Lithuanian... even though I KNOW this is just a stupid spam.. I will nontheless send some time and reply to your drivel....

I assume you have ABSOLUTELY NO KNOWLEDGE of Russian history and geography.

Apart from few exceptions.. all these regions were never ever independent nations or countries or regions... or really anything...

Karelia was spoils of victory taken from Finns after WW 1.. before that it was never independent..

And all eastern russian territories listed here (too many to repeat) were just a bunch of nomads and settlements before they were absorbed into Russian Empire... absolute majority has actually asked to join. They are so called "republics" only by name.. not by any other means.. and their boundaries were artificially created during Soviet Union in order to ease administrative management... their boundaries in no way reflect ethnic or historic territorial distributions...
majority of people in these republics (again.. apart from few exceptions) like being part of russia and would never approve separation or independendence... which is not always a better thing.

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since were are on the subject... tell me about Lithuania... when was it ever an independent nation within its current borders?????

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BTW.. what are you doing in california.. why did you move from your beloved lithuania???
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ShyCookie wrote:
Mr. Lithuanian... even though I KNOW this is just a stupid spam.. I will nontheless send some time and reply to your drivel....
I assume you have ABSOLUTELY NO KNOWLEDGE of Russian history and geography.
Apart from few exceptions.. all these regions were never ever independent nations or countries or regions... or really anything...
Karelia was spoils of victory taken from Finns after WW 1.. before that it was never independent..
And all eastern russian territories listed here (too many to repeat) were just a bunch of nomads and settlements before they were absorbed into Russian Empire... absolute majority has actually asked to join. They are so called "republics" only by name.. not by any other means.. and their boundaries were artificially created during Soviet Union in order to ease administrative management... their boundaries in no way reflect ethnic or historic territorial distributions...
majority of people in these republics (again.. apart from few exceptions) like being part of russia and would never approve separation or independendence... which is not always a better thing.
Your comment is true about Karelia from the 13th century forward. Sweden and the Novgorod Republic at the end of the 13th-century Swedish-Novgorodian Wars divided up the area by The Treaty of Nöteborg, 1323. Before the times of the Kiev Rus, the area has a nation of Finno-Ugric people. Much as Rostov the Great was before the 8th century on land of the Merya tribe of Finno-Urgric people. My point is you are correct for the past 500 plus years of history.

The areas have been Russian for a long time. Only traces of the earlier peoples remain. Example Lake Nero in Yaroslavl Oblast is a name from Merya tribe. They had their capital in Sarskoe Gorodishche on the southern shore of the lake. They named the lake Nero meaning "silty", "marshland").

It much shorter time to go back to Indians in the USA state. Here many river remain with the old names. Example: Ohio River.

Ossetia has been fight to be free since WWI. Tatarstan has not been.
IVAN

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Sep 11, 2008
 
Just like Georgia in USA was English, Louisiana French, so they too need to be free of federal control.

http://www.cafepress.com/figstreetstudio/1265...
Justice

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Sep 11, 2008
 
Lithuanian wrote:
Full independence for Russian colonies:
The Adygea Republic
The Tatarstan Republic
The Chechnya Republic
The Dagestan Republic
The North Ossetia
The Bashkortostan Republic
The Karelia Republic
The Altai Republic
The Kabardino-Balkaria
The Buryatia Republic
The Chuvash Rebublic
The Ingushetia Republic
The Kalmykia Republic
The Karachayevo-Circassian Republic
The Khakasia Republic
The Komi Republic
The Mari Republic
The Mordovian Republic
The Sakha Republic (Yakutia)
The Tyva Republic
The Udmurtia Republic
Why always russia?
If you deal with secession movements like this, then you could take any country!
In USA there are also at least 10 secession movements!
They exterminated native indians but why couldn't they give the land to the indians back?
Answer:
Because you are too ignorant to understand this!

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Sep 11, 2008
 
cool... a chance for Russia to show it's firm commitment for regions that desire independance. I have no doubt Russia will do the honorable thing and allow the secession of Tartarstan.

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Sep 11, 2008
 
Why do we need more Islamic countries, as Tatarastan, on the map. Not enough Sharia Law for you in the former Chechnya? Not enough kidnappings, ransoms, killing and slavery for Christians.
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Palin tells Charlie Gibson in interview war with Russia may be necessary. This is just what we need in Washington another war monger. We just finished eight years with two war mongers in the White House and still have two wars going on today.

Give me a break.

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So is the USA going to give each of the indian tribes its lands back and let them cecede from the union?
Serge

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Sep 12, 2008
 
Lithuanian wrote:
Full independence for Russian colonies:
The Adygea Republic
The Tatarstan Republic
The Chechnya Republic
The Dagestan Republic
The North Ossetia
The Bashkortostan Republic
The Karelia Republic
The Altai Republic
The Kabardino-Balkaria
The Buryatia Republic
The Chuvash Rebublic
The Ingushetia Republic
The Kalmykia Republic
The Karachayevo-Circassian Republic
The Khakasia Republic
The Komi Republic
The Mari Republic
The Mordovian Republic
The Sakha Republic (Yakutia)
The Tyva Republic
The Udmurtia Republic
Stop posting your idiotic separatist dreams or Russia will take over your little spot called Lithuania again... ;))))
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Lithuanian wrote:
After recognition of the independence of 3 Caucasian states: Chechnya, Dagestan and Ingushetia, US planning to recognition the independence of Adygea, Altai, Buryatia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Kalmykia, Karachay-Cherkessia, Karelia, Komi, Mari El, Mordovia, Sakha, North Ossetia, Tatarstan, Tuva, Udmurtia, Khakassia, and Chuvashia.
It is assumed that the "leadership" of these recognized by the US countries would constitute a so-called "governments in exile", which will be located in the West.
Meanwhile Wayne also announced a partial mobilization of the Navy, caused by the Russian aggression against Georgia.
Amerikieciu atsakas i Osetijos ir Abhazijos nepriklausomybiu paskelbima:
Yes, and Russia, in turn, will recognize full independence of Florida, Missisipi, Texas, Georgia, California, New-Jercey, Alabama and other states from Washington AND will also constitute the governments-in-excile for these states, which will be located in the East.
PS: Alaska will be joined with Russia again. ;)
Justice

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Sep 12, 2008
 
Stefanya wrote:
So is the USA going to give each of the indian tribes its lands back and let them cecede from the union?
Still hunger for more slaughter of innocent indians moron?
Go and kill yourself before you point your finger on the others!
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Sep 12, 2008
 
Can the U.S.A go to war with Russia without instituting the draft ?
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President Palin wrote:
Can the U.S.A go to war with Russia without instituting the draft ?
A war with Russia would be over in an hour with two big losers, no time nor need for a draft.
Mondo Cane

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Stefanya wrote:
So is the USA going to give each of the indian tribes its lands back and let them cecede from the union?
We'll never let them secede because the BLM owes them so much money, it'd bankrupt us.
Human

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Sep 12, 2008
 
If that palin puts bad words in god's mouth and keep on strumentalizing him with "god orders to nuke there and here, pollute, hunt, don't teach science, etc" maybe he's gonna kick her a.s around nextly.
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