India's Choice: Tibet or China?

HIV wrote:

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Really? Study your history
China has thousand years of fighting each other. Then Qin Shi Huang beat all and unified China,
Look at the map of Qin Dynasty to see how big China was
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Dynasty
Map of the Han Dynasty
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Han
Then Jin Dynasty (265–420)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Jin_Dyna...
Then Tang (Tibet was still not included)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tang_Dynasty
Song
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_Dynasty
Ming (Tibet was still not included but instead Vietnam was invaded)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_Dynasty
Until Qing Dynasty, Tibet was included as a territory
China then invaded all the neighbors to expand its land until what you see today. China invaded Mongolia, East Turkestan ....
The last one was Sino-Vietnam war.
oh, i forgot. In 1974 China sunk 3 Vietnamese navy ship and took over Paracels. In 1988, they sunk 2 more ship and took over about 9 islands from Vietnamese
China also claims the disputed land Kashmir!
Wow, China is so nice and peaceful!

Tim Dunn wrote:

Zhao Ziyang and Hu Yaobang were Chinese Communist party leaders who wanted freedom for all citizens of China-including the Tibetans, and the people who demonstrated in Tianenmen Square and who were killed or jailed for it. They were kicked out of their leadership roles by the hardliners, kept incommunicado, and placed under house arrest for the remainder of their lives.
The Olympic torch was lit recently in China, but it isn't the torch the Chinese people wanted. Their torch was held aloft by their statue of the Goddess of Liberty, the one that they built. That torch was torn down, and the people were attacked and killed or jailed by the "People's" army in Tiananmen square in 1989.
Young adults in China today know nothing of this, because the Chinese government propaganda machine has vilified the hundred thousand patriots who demonstrated for freedom that day, and dismissed them as a few anti-social hooligans. This process is, of course, taking place today in China, only it is currently directed against the Tibetan demonstrators and the Dalai Lama. If the Tiananmen Square demonstrators had been successful in reforming the Chinese government, I doubt if there would have been the demonstrations in Tibet, because the people of Tibet would probably have had far fewer grievances.
You can see a photo of the "Goddess of Liberty" and read about the Tiananmen Square massacre on Wikipedia- just Google: Wikipedia Tiananmen Square Massacre
Now the Chinese government, run by the very same people who conducted the Tiananmen Square Massacre and then lied about it, asks us to believe that the pacifistic Buddhist monks of Tibet are preparing to become suicide bombers.
I see that Hu Jintao has been swotting up on Mein Kampf by Adolph Hitler, with particular attention to "The Big Lie." Read all about it by Googling: Wikipedia the big lie .
Joseph Goebbels, head of the Nazi Propaganda ministry, wrote the following in an article dated 18 March 1939, "As the Führer finished his proclamation to the German (sic) at 5 a.m. an historical decision had taken place. Shortly after, radio stations told the world that the historic provinces of Bohemia and Moravia had returned to the federation of the Greater German Reich. State President Hacha himself had asked the Führer to assume the protection of these provinces, noting that he 'was confidently placing the fate of the Czech people and nation in the hands of the Führer of the German Reich.' The so-called Czecho-Slovakia ceased to exist. In a single night a nation vanished that in reality had never been a nation."
Sound familiar? Maybe a little like Chinese government pronouncements that Tibet is and always has been part of China? Those representatives of other governments that hasten to reassure the Chinese government that they agree remind me of Neville Chamberlain, as well. "Peace in our time!" Unless, of course, you happen to be Czechoslovakian, or Tibetan. Doesn't the Chinese government say that Taiwan is also part of China? I wonder just how long "our time" is, anyway.
I'm sure the Taiwanese must wonder, and if Indians aren't wondering how long it will be until they are on the tiger's menu, they should be. Oh, that's right, they are safe because India is appeasing China by knuckling under on the Chinese Tibetan line. Right. That worked will for the British with Hitler, didn't it?

Free wrote:

China and India will be the next big superpowers in Asia and the world. They will be the best of friends after they settle their disputes. The world will have to treat these two Asian powers with more respects with their coming economic and scientific/technological advances.

MajorMalfunction wrote:

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I know I am replying to this pretty late but bear with me. As a student of oriental history...china in particular...where in history did the chinese invade mongolia ? or are you just changing history to suit your arguments ? if I remember correctly it was mongolia that invaded china and much of the know world...right up to edges of europe...All the chinese did was fight back and build a buffer to stop more raids by the mongolians. If you study chinese history closely most of the expansions you claim are due to the actions previously by the country invaded, manchuria would not be part of china now if they did not invade in the first place...that goes for tibet as well.East Turkestan is a non country dreamed up by the uygars...the territory was original Hun and Xiongnu who where driven out due to their constant raiding, the huns went on to cause at lot of trouble for the roman empire..uygars migrated there during one of the many periods of disunity in china and before you say it is communist propagada like all you monkeys scream when you are proven false...all these facts where documented in the histories of each dynasty written by civil servants of which not even the emperors where allowed to look at in case they would change anything to make them look better in history.

LOL wrote:

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Youknow, come to think of it, we never had an decent debate over the legitimacy of Tibet claiming itself as being illegally occupied by Chinese. I had some points presented to HIV, but we all agree he is an idiot, so I am hoping you can do better. So lets be civilized unlike those guys in the riot, lets talk about it. What is your claim that Tibet is illegally occupied?

Bayside wrote:

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It will be nice if it turns out that way. But I doubt it. China is on the way to be a superpower rivalling the US, if it is not already. By the time India is showing signs of becoming a superpower, the US and China will work overtime to break up the India nation into several independent countries, and they know it is not difficult to achieve. Both US and China would not tolerate an India too powerful enough to monopolise the Indian Ocean. Two superpowers on this planet is complicated enough, there is no room for the third one. To the US, one superpower is what the world wants. That is why the Americans have been hard at it to bring down China. So far they have failed.

air moon wrote:

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lol, bangladesh has a bigger chance of becoming a superpower than india.