The President has failed us

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frank wrote:

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Finally something intelligent we can all agree on: Romney is a producer, yes indeed, of Chinese jobs!

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NTRPRNR1 wrote:

<quoted text> I see the American Dream as only being obtainable when opportunity exists for it to take place, when good public education is available for all, regardless of income level. I don't think hungry infants and children get the nutrition required to reach the best mental development. I only have to look at those parts of the world where hunger is rampant versus developed nations where the mother's prenatal health is valued and nutrition is good.
When I read reports that upward mobility is greater throughout most of Europe than it is here in the U.S., I can't help but be concerned for our children and their futures. I view the polarity of wealth and income inequality, coupled with the segregation of the wealthy from the well-being of our nation as being truly problematic.
Most of your post is nothing more than slanderous mischaracterizations. That seems to be about the best you can do.

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NTRPRNR1 wrote:

<quoted text>How so, Posit? I don't understand what you mean by that, unless you're referring to the fact that pensions are being cut or frozen (some were far too generous), unions have been neutralized, Americans have been displaced in favor of cheaper labor. We're as disposable as used kleenex. The elite would like to shut us up by feeding us fish and blocking us from getting to the lake with our rods and reels in hands - and a shovel for bait. If we make it to the lake, all we'll have is a couple of rocks in our pockets. Good luck catching a fish by skipping one into his head! Well, you never know. Once in a blue moon somebody will get lucky - if they keep throwing rocks in the lake.
The wealthy industrialists have been replaced by the money changers, and they do have lavish homes here and there...and there, etc. Is that what you mean?
What is Romney's plan for fixing it? Will he teach us all how to turn $30,000 into $100 million dollars in a decade with IRAS on steroids? Can he outsource us into a booming economy? Will we all be competing for 1,400 jobs with the Keystone pipeline? Gawd, I hope they pay well, especially for the folks in the midwest who still drive cars to work. Will he send more police into the low income sectors to keep the crazies from preying on and harming everybody who is too hungry to fight back?
Now, I realize that that scenario was pure speculation, but since the man won't get specific and detail his plans for us, my guess is as good as anybody else's, because nobody really know how he thinks he can pull off keeping his promises for the ever evolving and myriad "first day on the job" plans he has - whatever they are. It just depends on who he's speaking before as to what those promises for the first day in office really are. He's like a Cracker-Jack box. I don't know what the surprise is going to be, but I figure it will be broken before we ever extract it from that little foil lined pouch it comes in.
Still, I know that some of you would be exquisitely relieved that a white man sits in the Oval office, regardless of how bad you get screwed or how little of consequence it means to improving your lot in life.

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Ms Understanding wrote:

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Syria accuses U.S. in deadly helicopter attack
October 26, 2008
CNN

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NTRPRNR1 wrote:

<quoted text>Why don't you expand your horizons and look at the global economic picture. Don't forget to understand that the Republicans promise their base that they'll "take care of them" and just sit tight - don't move 'til we get there. So? They're parked in neutral waiting for an additional $150,000 to spend. That has absolutely NOTHING to do with you, aside from the fact that maybe the plant where you work will be outsourced, because there is no tax penalty either way if you take it off shore and repatriate it at your convenience. Romney says so. Another "day one" task.
No summer will be the summer of our recovery until we get busy educating our children again, including the ones who weren't born to mommies and daddies with trust fund bestowals to pay for their college education and a beamer.

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fishaholic wrote:

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UH, I'm a registered Ind. but will NEVER vote for a democrat like obama, reid, pelosi and a whole host of others. There are a few D's that I actually do agree with on some issues, but they are rare. Not saying I'll vote GOP consistantly either. I'll support the one that is closest to my beliefs. obama's not even on the same planet. Romney wouldn't be my first choice but given the field of candidates for pres, he's the most qualified to run the country better than obama has, comparatively speaking.

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Churmudgeon wrote:

<quoted text> I beg to differ. The buisnessmen did indeed build the infrastructure. The very first roads briges and ferrys where built by private buisnessmen and they charged a toll for them. The same as the very first boat docks and Warves on the waterways. The buisnessmen provided the jobs that paid the wages that where taxed to build todays infrastructure. Those whose wages are derived by taxes actually contributed nothing. If your money comes from the goverment that produces nothing. then you parasites never really pay any taxes. The tax you pay is derived from a tax. So its just a recycling of tax dollars robbed from some productive buisnessman or his productive employees wages. Kinda like the parasites getting a dollar for free and paying a 10 cent handlig fee.

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Aphelion wrote:

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From "Atlas Shrugged" via http://pointsandfigures.com/2012/07/18/kind-o ...
“He didn’t invent iron ore and blast furnaces, did he?”
“Who?”
“Rearden. He didn’t invent smelting and chemistry and air compression. He couldn’t have invented his Metal but for thousands and thousands of other people. His Metal! Why does he think it’s his? Why does he think it’s his invention? Everybody uses the work of everybody else. Nobody ever invents anything.”
She said, puzzled,“But the iron ore and all those other things were there all the time. Why didn’t anybody else make that Metal, but Mr. Rearden did?”
Sound familiar?
Credit given to Tournefort (Barack Obama, our next President)

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NTRPRNR1 wrote:

<quoted text>Obama did say those words, but in context, it’s clear he was referring to infrastructure:
"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.
The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.
So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That’s how we funded the GI Bill. That’s how we created the middle class. That’s how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That’s how we invented the Internet. That’s how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that’s the reason I’m running for president — because I still believe in that idea. You’re not on your own, we’re in this together."
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http://www.care2.com/causes/romney-obama-insu...

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Churmudgeon wrote:

<quoted text> I beg to differ. The buisnessmen did indeed build the infrastructure. The very first roads briges and ferrys where built by private buisnessmen and they charged a toll for them. The same as the very first boat docks and Warves on the waterways. The buisnessmen provided the jobs that paid the wages that where taxed to build todays infrastructure. Those whose wages are derived by taxes actually contributed nothing. If your money comes from the goverment that produces nothing. then you parasites never really pay any taxes. The tax you pay is derived from a tax. So its just a recycling of tax dollars robbed from some productive buisnessman or his productive employees wages. Kinda like the parasites getting a dollar for free and paying a 10 cent handlig fee.

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higgans wrote:

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here's a little History, American History, lesson. please do try and learn from it...
which came first, the Model T and mass auto production or paved road systems?
or, the Wright brothers invention, the heavier than air, powered aero-plane, or airports?
this notion that somehow the Govt is at the root of Man's achievements is backwards , false and evil. the Govt either facilitates some ONE's idea or IT stiffles it, or, IT waits to co-opt it, like their wealth.
the Govt, Military or otherwise, did NOT invent the Internet. some ONE or group of ONES, came up with the idea. the same with our Mission to the Moon, teflon, Tang, etc...
how does Obama explain the poor, disadvantaged kid struggling for years to 'suddenly' make it? or, explain F Douglas telling Lincoln and others in 1865-70, NOT to give the recently freed Negroes forty acres and a mule... to let them be as other free men and allow them to sink or swim on their own merits. Douglas was preaching AGAINST the Govt handouts ONE-HUNDRED YEARS before they became the norm. I don't remember Dr. King demanding handouts or 'fairness', either. I do believe he was asking for simple, Good Old Fashioned American EQUALITY (like Douglas, before him).
oh, what a difference 50 years and mass-indoctrination makes...
Come ON Nov.

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Ratz wrote:

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And there it is, the 'race card'. I wondered how long it would take you until you tried to use it. Getting desperate now?

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Socialism is for Sissies wrote:

<quoted text>Brilliant analogy!!
Not just "Who's John Galt?", where is John Galt?!

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frank wrote:

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"this notion that somehow the Govt is at the root of Man's achievements"
Are you kidding me? No one is making such idiotic claims except you friggen moronic right-wingers, your argument is so ass-backward a salted slug would laugh at you - sorry Forrest Gump!

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frank wrote:

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Oh, almost forgot you friggen moron, the first proposal for the World Wide Web (www) was made in 1989 at CERN, an agency entirely funded by Gov’t, which in tern spawned the explosion of the PC (Personal Computer) revolution and millions of jobs – now go to the back of the line and listen perhaps you’ll learn something – nah forget it you’re a moron!

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Quirky wrote:

“Where did all the Obama stimulus money go? Friends, donors, campaign supporters, special-interest groups. Where did the Obama stimulus money go? Solyndra. 500 million taxpayer dollars. Bankrupt. So where did the Obama stimulus money go? Windmills from China, electric cars from Finland.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/19/us/politics...