MANILA: China to Philippines: Quit Scarborough Shoal

old china wrote:

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I appreciate that trawling can be destructive to the sea bed. Did you know that Philippine fishermen commonly use them? Why is it that they use them?

See Old China? I bet you can't find anything about Philippine fishermen commonly using trawlers.

That's why I told you it's better to shut up if you don't know anything because it will make you look smarter. I'm being courteous enough to help you both here iand in the real world.

I can just imagine your plight if this is how you normally are in the real world. A lot of people must think you really are stupid but are considerate enough not to say it to your face.

Just like all your useless posts, PLEASE get factual evidences first before posting something.

I pity you now, you poor little dimwitted chinaman. I really do, from the bottom of my heart....

Cev wrote:

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Really? Facts please.
Or are you making up stories again just like your map that cannot be found?
Also, we're talking about scarborough and we do not use such methods for fishing in those waters.

This will help you focus:

"The country is threatened enough by the other demands already being made on its resources; not only by a large and growing population, but by the encroachment of foreign fisheries. This diminishes the food supply of a population which depends primarily on fish for protein, and forces the Filipino fishermen to engage in dynamite fishing, causing irreversible damage to the coral reefs."

"The World Bank/IMF has also been credited with forcing the Philippine government to open Filipino fishing waters to foreign trawlers in the early 1980s, with the disastrous consequences described above."

From eco-action in an article titled "The Philippines: A Country for Sale"

old china wrote:

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Your shrimping industry uses them. Try google or yahoo.
It doesn't matter where you use them because they still destroy the sea bottom.

And a big chunk of our shrimps are from aquaculture. Get me an article to prove your claims on Philippine fishermen using trawlers all the time chinaman

old china wrote:

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Read my words... I said "I don't think you'd want to..." That means I am guessing. To me dragging a net over rocks and coral doesn't seem like a good idea but what do I know.

That's right, what do you know. NOTHNG.

That's why i was kind enough to ask you to google it. If you did, you would know.

Trawler nets can overturn boulders, what do you think it can do to corals? You can thank me for providing you with more information when i can just laugh at your stupidity.

Chinese should stop buying pinoy's product (if there's any, never seen made in phillipine except banana and pathetic pinoy-maids)

old china wrote:

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This will help you focus:
"The country is threatened enough by the other demands already being made on its resources; not only by a large and growing population, but by the encroachment of foreign fisheries. This diminishes the food supply of a population which depends primarily on fish for protein, and forces the Filipino fishermen to engage in dynamite fishing, causing irreversible damage to the coral reefs."
"The World Bank/IMF has also been credited with forcing the Philippine government to open Filipino fishing waters to foreign trawlers in the early 1980s, with the disastrous consequences described above."
From eco-action in an article titled "The Philippines: A Country for Sale"

Yes, 1980s, and the Philippines learned from his mistakes. Commercial trawler fishing is now illegal in the Philippines.

Yeesh. I'm so generous with information today i should stop.

I'm tired of your ignorance old china. If you no longer have anything useful to say, STFU please.

Moro Islamic LF wrote:

Chinese should stop buying pinoy's product (if there's any, never seen made in phillipine except banana and pathetic pinoy-maids)

Your post is impertinent, immaterial and irrelevant to the discussion.

Conclusion from discussions remains unchanged: THE PHILIPPINES IS THE RIGHTFUL OWNER OF SCARBOROUGH SHOAL.

china always want war with neighbours. previousl, vietnam,korea,taiwan, india,japan,russia,somalia and now with phillipines. did china left any neighbour country without a war? it is very cruel on the part of china. the world should not spare chine for this time.

You keep on throwing dirt on the Philippines environmental practices like you know everything. Yes we made mistakes, but we are making up for it.

You can research on 'the philippines having some of the best environmental protection laws in the whole world.'

And you can also research on 'china's excessive carbon emissions'.

Read, and make yourself smarter and know the truth about who is best at destroying the environment.

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Did I own the stupid Chinamen posters again?

srikanth wrote:

china always want war with neighbours. previousl, vietnam,korea,taiwan, india,japan,russia,somalia and now with phillipines. did china left any neighbour country without a war? it is very cruel on the part of china. the world should not spare chine for this time.

Yes srikanth, what you said is true. And now they are doing it to everybody again. The Philippines is just one of the first. You can expect the same to happen over all countries involved in their 9 dash line claim, plus disputes between japan, south korea and taiwan as well.

China is the one causing tensions in Asia, China is the one always calling for war.

Cev wrote:

You keep on throwing dirt on the Philippines environmental practices like you know everything. Yes we made mistakes, but we are making up for it.
You can research on 'the philippines having some of the best environmental protection laws in the whole world.'
And you can also research on 'china's excessive carbon emissions'.
Read, and make yourself smarter and know the truth about who is best at destroying the environment.
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Did I own the stupid Chinamen posters again?

Yes, the CCP posters are at their wits' end and have been utterly devastated and humiliated. They don't have any valid argument to make except fall back upon except the 'might is right' argument. Truth always triumphs....

WTF

All pinoys are thieves

My pinoy-maid just try to steal my money
Should I handed her to police or just simply slap her on her ugly dirty face ??
Advice will be so appreciated

Moro Islamic LF wrote:

WTF
All pinoys are thieves
My pinoy-maid just try to steal my money
Should I handed her to police or just simply slap her on her ugly dirty face ??
Advice will be so appreciated

You can either slap yourself for being stupid enough to have your money stolen,

Or you can sue yourself for lying, especially lying about her having an ugly dirty face.

Either way,

Your post is impertinent, immaterial and irrelevant to the discussion.

Conclusion from discussions remains unchanged: THE PHILIPPINES IS THE RIGHTFUL OWNER OF SCARBOROUGH SHOAL.

Sardar wrote:

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Yes, the CCP posters are at their wits' end and have been utterly devastated and humiliated. They don't have any valid argument to make except fall back upon except the 'might is right' argument. Truth always triumphs....

Don't forget the insults. xD it's a wumao classic ;)

Thanks Sardar ;) nice to know that people all around the world are seeing mainland chinese for what they really are.

Moro Islamic LF wrote:

WTF
All pinoys are thieves
My pinoy-maid just try to steal my money
Should I handed her to police or just simply slap her on her ugly dirty face ??
Advice will be so appreciated

You judge a whole nation based on your experience with your maid, or should I say nanny? You are an idiot, plain and simple.

Moro Islamic LF wrote:

WTF
All pinoys are thieves
My pinoy-maid just try to steal my money
Should I handed her to police or just simply slap her on her ugly dirty face ??
Advice will be so appreciated

They steal your money because you're not paying her monthly salary. The poor maid has family back home to support and what you're doing is plain cruelty. Typical muslim attitude.

Moro Islamic LF wrote:

WTF
All pinoys are thieves
My pinoy-maid just try to steal my money
Should I handed her to police or just simply slap her on her ugly dirty face ??
Advice will be so appreciated

I worked in a company with 32 diffrent nationalities, and there is this time tnat our Tee's and underwear in the laundry room went missing! The security team placed a hidden camera in the room and whoala, it's the stupid Chinaman! How lowly that can be, stealing used undies!

I know it's off topic...just can't resist answering to your post!!!

There's a reason why the wu mao's are posting impertinent, immaterial and irrelevant to the discussion. They are trying to bury our older posts so that it would be difficult for the new readers to read them. Only a very few people would start to read from page 1...they tend to read only that last page.

What I do is I repost the most important facts again:

China is not above the United Nations. China is not above international law. You are not the center of the world. You have no right to step on other country's rights just because you have more money and have bigger guns.

China's historical evidence is NOWHERE TO BE FOUND. And everything is just based on what their government claiming. No pictures available on the net or newspapers. The Chinese government is just fabricating LIES about their history. Why won't any Chinese post a link of their historical evidence.

All Philippine maps are readily available over the net. Google it. Whereas the chinese maps ARE NOWHERE TO BE FOUND.

So WHERE ARE THE ANCIENT MAPS?? Have you seen it? I haven't! Has anyone in this forums seen it and can provide a link to it?
We have always wondered why China keeps on insisting bilateral country to country talks only, and resorts to various forms of
harrassments instead of just proving their claim over the courts.

Now we know. China does not have any evidence to back his claims. Should the evidence even be produced, it would not be evidence of sovereignty of Philippine territory. Even your government officials and proffessors from your universities cannot show any proof! Admit it. You know that SCARBOROUGH IS PHILIPPINE TERRITORY. It will be hard to accept, but the evidence is there. China has no evidence.

China has been calling for war all this time just because they cannot prove their claims.

Chinese wu maos have always resorted to insults and baseless comments all these time because they cannot rebutt Philippine
claims over our territory.

China's 9 dash line is nothing but an imaginary set of broken lines. Imaginary because they could not even produce the 1200's map they used as a basis. Imaginary because should they be able to produce the map, it contains inaccurate mapping data of misplaced islands and waters as this was made during the 1200's. Imaginary as should they be able to produce the map, the map does not contain only details on china, but also those of neighboring countries. Will china claim all the countries indicated on the map as well?

But produce it first, if it really exists. Stop with all these fictitious claims. Prove that you have sovereignty over the islands. The Philippines already laid down their evidences and it is very convincing. China does not have any.

Therefore, again and again i will say: THE PHILIPPINES OWNS SCARBOROUGH.

china dont get it if you destroy the corals theres no hiding place for the little fish which is food for the big fish. its also true for the nations they gobbled up once all the little fish are eaten then all the big fish will die. china is very big example of 1000 years of learning nothing

Why still talking to pinoys, this pathetic thief nation is dying within, what pinoy can do when Chinese stop hiring pinoy to clean-up their toilet ?? Pinoys will simply go back to pinoy country and eat dirt or flock like animals in Malaysia as illegal low workers also washing toilets there with very low wages