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Austronesian Guy

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#4895
Jul 1, 2012
 
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I know you try to tell me, 21 countries help Philippines to claim the islands or to fight china and take over it!
To china they knew US want to control them! The exercise can put China out of the world or NOT, let see in the future!
Congratulation, you have 21 countries soldiers ready to die for Philippines!
Yes we will see. Israel alone can wipe out China within seconds lol

China has no strong allies, the US has a lot. NATO alone can wipe China. I don't think Russia would help China

Taiwan is very very very close to China and it is very very very far from the US. Why still can't China take it back?

U know why. China is inferior military wise.

So what makes u think china would win?
Filmalay

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#4896
Jul 1, 2012
 
The Philippine Ships in West Philippine Sea are like sitting ducks for China and no armaments compared to Chinese ships. Why can't they fire a shot? Do it and fire a shot or missile so that China has no more problem. Chinese military generals should give an order to shoot any foreign ships on site so that the world will rejoice for China is the best of the best country all over the world.
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#4897
Jul 1, 2012
 
China should do the same to the Filipinos like what they did to the Vietnamese in the Spratlys years back where they killed a few dozen Viets. All the Chinese have to do is to aim and shoot. That is not hard to do, they're the best military worldwide.
Austronesian Guy

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Jul 1, 2012
 
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Actually I didn't know what Austronesian is? You told me that, and I had read over it! But I cant support this to be the evidences to do the claim. Firstly, the islands in the west of Philippines, and No one know how Austronesian went to Philippines? My view they from at the northern, If use common sense to look at the map, the only way they came from Taiwan in the north of Philippines. Secondly, Filipinos have no history because they did'nt know it, and they likely to move southward.
You want to change the direction of them, please dont forget to turn the map upside down!
You really don't know history.

The first Austronesians came from southern China then they moved to Taiwan.

From Taiwan some Austronesians migrated to the Philippines.

From the Philippines some migrated to Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, and Indonesia. The disputed Islands are within this area.

Some also migrated to Magagascar (Africa), New Zealand and to the rest of the Pacific Islands.

Are you familiar with the word PREHISTORY? Prehistory means NO WRITTEN HISTORY.

During ancient time, the influence
of Chinese civilization on Southeast Asia was limited to Vietnam.

Though they did not invent writing to record their discovery, it would
be ludicrous to deny their discovery of the islands so close to the
Philippines and Indonesia in light of the fact that they were able to discover the various islands in the vast Pacific Ocean and Indian Ocean like Hawaii, Easter Island, Magagascar, and New Zealand.

China invented writing earlier, not
because Chinese people were the first to navigate that sea or the first
to discover the islands.

Per ACCEPTED WORLD HISTORY, the Austronesians discovered the Islands first contrary to CHINA'S historical claim.
Austronesian Guy

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#4899
Jul 1, 2012
 
U APES BEG_ HAVE BIGMOUTH wrote:
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your a LOW IQ, OFW APE...
part of the 10 million Filipinos working outside the country
Philippines is no better than China... in fact you have the freedom to get rid of the crooks running your country but do you?
and at least people look to go to China for work...
I know many Chinese here living in multi million dollar homes go back and work in Hong Kong/China...
can you say the same about the Philippines the shiet hole...
only people I know who want to go to the Philippines are there to sex up your women...
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At the moment, there are anywhere from 240,000 to 300,000 Canadian passport holders in Hong Kong.
Ironically, that means that today the real "Hongcouver" is on the other side of the Pacific, a massive talent pool of Canadians that Canada should not forget.
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/story.html...
Off topic.

U always change the topic because you can't prove China's Sovereignty over the Islands.
Austronesian Guy

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#4900
Jul 1, 2012
 
No Country Supports Chinese 9 Dash Line.

USA, SOUTH KOREA, JAPAN, INDONESIA, AUSTRALIA, SPAIN AND INDIA RECOGNIZE PHILIPPINE SOVEREIGNTY

RUSSIA -

March 13, 2012: Russia Pronounce its support to the Philippines over Spratly disputes with china and other claimants. Philippines - Russia is supporting the Philippines' stand that RULES based on transparency and diplomacy should be used to resolve maritime issues.

EUROPEAN UNION

EU-Asia Center director Fraser Cameron said during a forum in Manila that the EU supports a rules-based international system and liberty of navigation. The EU believes that territorial disputes should be resolved “in accordance with international law through peaceful and cooperative solutions.”

NEW ZEALAND

New Zealand backs Philippine position on Spratlys

New Zealand supports the position of the Philippines and other allies that claimants to the Spratly chain of islands must heed the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), the Department of National Defense said Friday.

MALAYSIA
Malaysia backs Philippines in dispute vs China

Malaysia is supporting the Philippines' stand that Manila's dispute with China over ownership of Scarborough shoal should be resolved based on the United Nations Convention on Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), Vice President Jejomar Binay said Tuesday.

VIETNAM BACKS THE PHILIPPINES

1) Support for the “sovereign rights” of the Philippines in the Scarborough Shoal.
2) Opposition to China’s use of the “nine-dashed line” to make overlapping claims with the Exclusive Economic Zones and continental shelves of the Philippines, Vietnam and other ASEAN countries, as well as opposition to “China’s actions and threats of force,” the latter presumably referring to articles in China’s state controlled press.
3) Support for the Philippines’ proposal to submit the dispute at Scarborough Shoal to the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea (ITLOS).

JAPAN

President Benigno Aquino III on Tuesday night secured Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda’s support for a peaceful resolution of the six-nation dispute over the potentially oil-rich Spratly islands.

Following the meeting, the President and Noda “confirmed that freedom of navigation, unimpeded commerce, and compliance with established international law including the UNCLOS and the peaceful settlement of disputes serve the interests of the two countries and the whole region.” UNCLOS refers to the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea.

AUSTRALIA

Australia said those involved in the territorial dispute — Brunei, China, Malaysia, Philippines, and Taiwan — should adhere to the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), which codifies the international law of the sea.

Australia’s expression of support came less than a week after Washington expressed its support to Manila over the same issue.

USA
International Law Should be Used to solve the dispute.


No legitimate country supports China's 9 dash line.

Because the world is not STUPID!
Austronesian Guy

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#4901
Jul 1, 2012
 
China’s consistent refusal to bring its claim to the United Nation’s International Court of Justice (ICJ) or United Nation’s International Tribunal on the Law of the Sea (ITLOS) by itself is a tacit admission that it cannot prove its so called historical claim before a proper neutral court.

Stop denying, CHINA can't prove their 9 dash line claim!
U APES BEG_ HAVE BIGMOUTH

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#4902
Jul 1, 2012
 
Definitive proof... on the 9 dash line

http://trikepatrol.com/t2/joanna-joy-caregive...
Cev

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#4904
Jul 1, 2012
 
And as a rebuttal to your insults, you might be interested in reading this news article:

PH SOON TO JOIN TIGER ECONOMIES

Philippines may soon join the ranks of the world's "tiger economies," an international expert said.

Ruchir Sharma, chief of the Emerging Markets Equity team at Morgan Stanley Investment Management, said in his book “Breakout Nations: In Pursuit of the Next Economic Miracles” that Philippines is positioned for huge growth.

"Now at long last, the Philippines looks poised to resume a period of strong growth," Sharma said in his now best-selling piece.

"The new president, Benigno ‘Noynoy’ Aquino III, probably has enough support, and looks likely to generate just enough reform momentum, to get the job done. The Aquino name is still virtually synonymous with the promise of change," Sharma also wrote.

Asia's tiger economies include Japan, South Korea, Singapore, and Hong Kong.
Cev

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#4905
Jul 1, 2012
 
RELEASE DEMOCRATIC ACTIVISTS!

LOL.

I read about Hu Jin Dao's humiliation in HongKong. I guess not all Chinese are as stupid or cowardly as our local Chinese posters in the forums.
Austronesian Guy

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#4906
Jul 1, 2012
 
Cev wrote:
And as a rebuttal to your insults, you might be interested in reading this news article:
PH SOON TO JOIN TIGER ECONOMIES
Philippines may soon join the ranks of the world's "tiger economies," an international expert said.
Ruchir Sharma, chief of the Emerging Markets Equity team at Morgan Stanley Investment Management, said in his book “Breakout Nations: In Pursuit of the Next Economic Miracles” that Philippines is positioned for huge growth.
"Now at long last, the Philippines looks poised to resume a period of strong growth," Sharma said in his now best-selling piece.
"The new president, Benigno ‘Noynoy’ Aquino III, probably has enough support, and looks likely to generate just enough reform momentum, to get the job done. The Aquino name is still virtually synonymous with the promise of change," Sharma also wrote.
Asia's tiger economies include Japan, South Korea, Singapore, and Hong Kong.
To add more.....

'PH: No longer a joke'

Sharma's book emphasized that in 1960s, Philippines is Asia's second-highest per capital income earner and only behind Japan but the country's "fortunes have shifted dramatically since then."

But he believes that under the Aquino administration, PH may once again shine.

In a supplement entitled "Asia’s Euro Risk: How Asia Will Fare if Europe Cracks?" the Wall Street Journal said only four economies were projected to have the strength to weather a European economic and financial crisis, namely Australia, China, Indonesia and the Philippines.

Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand and Vietnam are among the Southeast Asian countries affected by a euro meltdown because of their high dependencies on European trade and greater exposure to European banks, WSJ said.

2012 PH Economy Highlights:

1. The Philippines is now the 2nd fastest growing economy in Asia after China

2. Philippine Stocks number 1 in Asia

3. By 2050, the Philippines will leapfrog 27 places to become the world’s 16th LARGEST ECONOMY (Out of almost 200 countries in the world)

4. PH soon to join 'tiger economies like Japan, South Korea, Singapore, and Hong Kong.
Austronesian Guy

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#4907
Jul 1, 2012
 
Dear Beggar with big mouth or whatever,

Please analyze the following data:

2012 PH Economy Highlights:

1. The Philippines is now the 2nd fastest growing economy in Asia after China

2. Philippine Stocks number 1 in Asia

3. By 2050, the Philippines will leapfrog 27 places to become the world’s 16th LARGEST ECONOMY (Out of almost 200 countries in the world)

4. PH soon to join "tiger economies" like Japan, South Korea, Singapore, and Hong Kong.

5. The Philippines - once a borrower and now a lender to ailing economies--has pledged to pump US$1 billion to the International Monetary Fund's (IMF) resources meant to help distressed economies, including those in the eurozone.
Austronesian Guy

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#4908
Jul 1, 2012
 
Bloomberg reports that Philippines is a Leading Asian Tiger Economy of the World

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

"Bloomberg reports about the Philippines as a leading Asian Tiger Economy that is united in surpassing China's growth continously :-) T1W is the most trusted advisor, link and liaison to FDI's, investing, economics and business in the Philippines. visit www.tanchanco1world.net "
Cev

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#4909
Jul 2, 2012
 
UPDATE:

PHILIPPINES WANT U.S. SPY PLANE HELP

MANILA (Reuters)- Philippine President Benigno Aquino said on Monday he may ask the United States to deploy spy planes in the South China Sea to help monitor the disputed waters, a move that may reignite tension with its giant neighbour China.

"We might be requesting overflights on that," Aquino told Reuters in an interview, referring to U.S. P3C Orion spy planes. "We don't have aircraft with those capabilities."

Last month, Aquino pulled out a lightly armed coast guard ship and a fisheries boat due to bad weather around a group of rock formations about 140 miles (225 km) we st of the main Philippine island of Luzon, ending a two-month standoff between the two sides.
ChineseFuckedUp

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Jul 2, 2012
 
U BEGGARS WITH BIGMOUTHS wrote:
THE FINAL ANSWER OF SHAMCEY SUPSUP IS A REFLECTION OF NARROW MINDEDNESS BROUGHT ABOUT BY THE PINOYS’ DAMAGED CULTURE
Wednesday, September 21, 2011,
I couldn’t help but stop whatever I was doing that night and watch the Miss Universe pageant. Sparkling in her elegant gown this time, Shamcey’s smile, her poise, her lithe body made her wonderfully captivating. I also thought her I’m-really-no-goddess-I’m-just -like-you-guys-this-is-unbelie vable shrug whenever she took her place one step closer to the top was endearing and made me declare her the next Miss Universe.
Until she was asked the well-thought of, tricky question:“Would you change your religious beliefs to marry the person you love? Why? or Why not?”
The answer to that smart question would determine for the judges whether this crowd favorite was to remain a representative of a miniscule country or to be crowned the representative of the whole universe. It would answer the question: Was she mentally, psychologically and perhaps, by the drift of the question, spiritually ready to take on the responsibilities of helping promote unity among countries on this planet, and even, to be rhetorically correct, perhaps beyond?
It is my strong belief that it was her answer that sent the crown, so close now to her fingertips, spinning away to land on dark beauty Ms. Angola’s head.
She said:“If I had to change my religious beliefs, I would not marry the person that I love because the first person that I love is God who created me and I have my faith and my principles and this is what makes me who I am. And if that person loves me, he should love my God, too.”
If I may translate her answer, including her non-verbal messages, she was, in effect, saying,“Your God is different from my God, so we cannot marry. We cannot be one.” And there’s the rub. How can a Miss Universe successfully reign if she has a your-God-is-different-from-my- God mindset?
What if her answer were:
“No, I would not change my religous beliefs and neither am I going to ask the person I love to change his religious beliefs to prove his love. I believe love transcends religions, race, color of skin, beliefs, nationalities. God, the source of this beautiful emotion, does not love only Catholics or Moslems, Buddhists or Hindus, Shintos, etc.. He loves all and will save us all because we are all His children and loves us unconditionally. We should do the same.”
Maybe, the judges would have been blown away. This answer would have shown her as someone who can really represent everyone, a woman who can be a unfying force not only through her charm, but also through her mature and balanced perspective. A woman who, like revolutionary Christ’s Good Samaritan, would embrace all peoples, regardless of color, race, beliefs and most of all, religion.
Admittedly, though, what I think is a crown-worthy answer came within longer than three minutes. And even as I was writing it, I had to carefully choose the words that truly meant what I believe, drawing from my soul wisdom earned from years of navigating Life’s unpredictable waters, from travels and exposure to diverse people and cultures, from a spiritual journey that took me years to go deeper and cleanse my soul of limiting and sometimes toxic beliefs spawned by faulty catechism that focused on exclusivity rather than on unity.
Shamcey was given only three minutes? Without an interpreter. So, I can’t fault her for her candid answer. Like someone taking a Rorschach test under time pressure, she drew from her 25 year-old soul an answer that was raw, honest and sincere and bared her psyche as it really is:
An AP fellow writer called her “close-minded”. Without meaning to defend my fellow writer’s word nor to put down Shamcey,
WOW. From Scarborough Shoal to "Beauty Pageants". You got a LONG CONNECTION there man. Return to the topic please. And BTW, atleast she made it that far, and that should is something to be proud of.
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Jul 2, 2012
 
Austronesian Guy wrote:
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You really don't know history.
The first Austronesians came from southern China then they moved to Taiwan.
From Taiwan some Austronesians migrated to the Philippines.
From the Philippines some migrated to Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, and Indonesia. The disputed Islands are within this area.
Some also migrated to Magagascar (Africa), New Zealand and to the rest of the Pacific Islands.
Are you familiar with the word PREHISTORY? Prehistory means NO WRITTEN HISTORY.
During ancient time, the influence
of Chinese civilization on Southeast Asia was limited to Vietnam.
Though they did not invent writing to record their discovery, it would
be ludicrous to deny their discovery of the islands so close to the
Philippines and Indonesia in light of the fact that they were able to discover the various islands in the vast Pacific Ocean and Indian Ocean like Hawaii, Easter Island, Magagascar, and New Zealand.
China invented writing earlier, not
because Chinese people were the first to navigate that sea or the first
to discover the islands.
Per ACCEPTED WORLD HISTORY, the Austronesians discovered the Islands first contrary to CHINA'S historical claim.
Austronesian went philippines did not passed these dispute islands, that why I told you to turn the map upside down!!!it doesnt matter the Autronesian is fact or fake! the problem Philippines have no proof!
ChineseFuckedUp

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Jul 2, 2012
 
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Austronesian went philippines did not passed these dispute islands, that why I told you to turn the map upside down!!!it doesnt matter the Autronesian is fact or fake! the problem Philippines have no proof!
"The Philippines have NO PROOF!" What.The.F*ck. Where have you been when we are all bent in facing you all of those facts??? All we did was face you with justified and strengthened claims of the Philippines. Our claims are supported by the UN and they are also backed up by other countries. China's claim on the other hand, is purely based on non-existent maps and uncomprehensible history. NO CLAIMS BASED ON AGREEMENTS OR WHATSOEVER. NO FACTS ALSO.
Cev

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Austronesian went philippines did not passed these dispute islands, that why I told you to turn the map upside down!!!it doesnt matter the Autronesian is fact or fake! the problem Philippines have no proof!
WTF???

Are you blind or naturally stupid? Austronesian guy has been posting very valid and factual evidences of Philippine proof of sovereignty!

China on the other hand has NO PROOF to back up their historical claim, aside from that, a historical claim is a WEAK claim when it comes to international law.

Please show a little bit of that IQ you chinamen were bragging about. Yeesh. No common sense. So stupid.
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Jul 2, 2012
 
the proof is, philippine fishermen know like the back of their hand where the shoal is even in high waters, and they usually find chinese fishermen stranded there who need replenishment and always philippine fishermen are ready to help. that's the proof!
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Jul 2, 2012
 
aaa wrote:
the proof is, philippine fishermen know like the back of their hand where the shoal is even in high waters, and they usually find chinese fishermen stranded there who need replenishment and always philippine fishermen are ready to help. that's the proof!
Filipinos knows by heart where it is located without the aid of navigational gadgets like GPS. Scarborough Shoal is within PH EEZ and therefore belongs to Filipinos period.

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