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Sep 28, 2008

Albania preserves its Ottoman past

The driver of the Albanian minibus, or furgon, sped from Tirana to Berat in fourth gear.

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they are Turks...we know that already!

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Oct 3, 2008
 
Um Slavenoserbski wrote:
they are Turks...we know that already!
Ok ,if we are turks , then you are bigger turks of all.
At least we foght the turks ,while you biatch ass serbs sucked theyre cocks

ALBANIAN WARS

1389 -First Battle of Kosovo
1442-1453 - Venetian-Ottoman War
1443-1478 -Albanians, lead by Gjergj Kastrioti (Skanderbeg) resisted Ottomans;
1448 - Second Battle of Kosovo
1462-1479 - Venetian-Ottoman War
1481 - Herzegovina conquered by Ottoman forces
1499-1503 - Venetian-Ottoman War
1538 - Imperial Invasion of Preveza
1571 - Naval Battle of Lepanto
1645-1669 - Venetian-Ottoman War (War of Candia)
1683-1699 - Habsburg-Ottoman War
1684-1699 - Venetian-Ottoman War
1715-1718 - Ottoman-Venetian War
1797-1803 - Pashalik of Janina : Suliot Uprising
1821-1822 - Ottoman expedition against Ali Pasha, Pasha of Janina
1852-1853 =- Ottoman War with Montenegro
1861-1862 - Ottoman War with Montenegro
1910-1911 - Albanian Rebellion against Ottoman Rule
1912-1913 - First Balkan War; Montenegro conquered Shkoder, Serbia bulk of Albania
1914-1918 - World War I; Albanian neutrality violated
1920 - Albano-Yugoslav border conflict, over secessionist Mirdite
1923 - Greek troops evacuated southern Albania
1924 - Coup / Counter-Revolution in Albania
1926 - Rebellion in Northern Albania (Nov.)
1932 - Leftist-Modernist Uprising
1935 - Reformist Uprising
1937 - Reformist Uprising
1939- Italian conquest of Albania
1940-1941 - Graeco-Italian War, fought in southern Albania
1941-1944 - Albanian partizans fought Italian/German occupation
1946-1949 - Greek Civl War; Greek communist partisans operated from bases in Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Albania
1950-1952 - Counterrevolutionary Insurgency
1997 - Rebellion Kosova
2001- Macedonia
2003 - Albania joined Coalition of the Willing, sent troops to Iraq

These are just a small list of the wars for 500 years , there are much more.
And what you got against ottomans?
The war of Russia , get the hell out of here

“General Nebojsa Pavkovic”

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Oct 3, 2008
 
Hyllus wrote:
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Ok ,if we are turks , then you are bigger turks of all.
At least we foght the turks ,while you biatch ass serbs sucked theyre cocks
ALBANIAN WARS
1389 -First Battle of Kosovo
1442-1453 - Venetian-Ottoman War
1443-1478 -Albanians, lead by Gjergj Kastrioti (Skanderbeg) resisted Ottomans;
1448 - Second Battle of Kosovo
1462-1479 - Venetian-Ottoman War
1481 - Herzegovina conquered by Ottoman forces
1499-1503 - Venetian-Ottoman War
1538 - Imperial Invasion of Preveza
1571 - Naval Battle of Lepanto
1645-1669 - Venetian-Ottoman War (War of Candia)
1683-1699 - Habsburg-Ottoman War
1684-1699 - Venetian-Ottoman War
1715-1718 - Ottoman-Venetian War
1797-1803 - Pashalik of Janina : Suliot Uprising
1821-1822 - Ottoman expedition against Ali Pasha, Pasha of Janina
1852-1853 =- Ottoman War with Montenegro
1861-1862 - Ottoman War with Montenegro
1910-1911 - Albanian Rebellion against Ottoman Rule
1912-1913 - First Balkan War; Montenegro conquered Shkoder, Serbia bulk of Albania
1914-1918 - World War I; Albanian neutrality violated
1920 - Albano-Yugoslav border conflict, over secessionist Mirdite
1923 - Greek troops evacuated southern Albania
1924 - Coup / Counter-Revolution in Albania
1926 - Rebellion in Northern Albania (Nov.)
1932 - Leftist-Modernist Uprising
1935 - Reformist Uprising
1937 - Reformist Uprising
1939- Italian conquest of Albania
1940-1941 - Graeco-Italian War, fought in southern Albania
1941-1944 - Albanian partizans fought Italian/German occupation
1946-1949 - Greek Civl War; Greek communist partisans operated from bases in Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Albania
1950-1952 - Counterrevolutionary Insurgency
1997 - Rebellion Kosova
2001- Macedonia
2003 - Albania joined Coalition of the Willing, sent troops to Iraq
These are just a small list of the wars for 500 years , there are much more.
And what you got against ottomans?
The war of Russia , get the hell out of here
How was battle of Kosovo your fight you dumb arnaut? you got fucked by the Turks by that time+ you were with Nazis!
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Oct 3, 2008
 
the biggest battle of is to keep electricity going in Alba country !
any blockouts lately ?
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Oct 3, 2008
 
Um Slavenoserbski wrote:
they are Turks...we know that already!
We fought turks more then any other Balkan nation, in present Albania, Montenegro, Epir, Macedonia and south Greece were all Albanians Chritians and Muslim fighting to be liberated from Turkish occupation ,see this is the main reality you perverts.
while we know that some of you are mix with Albanians , but this anyway does not make you authoctone . I Balkan are Albanian are the oldest even before Hellenic civilisation, i can give you a thousands source but i know will be useless. We are one century behind and if you continue like that we will never have good neibourhood with you !!
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Oct 3, 2008
 
Um Slavenoserbski wrote:
<quoted text>How was battle of Kosovo your fight you dumb arnaut? you got fucked by the Turks by that time+ you were with Nazis!
in battle of Dardania Albanian Epirot took actively role in coalition ,read history you brain washed mix Serbs Albanians.While we know thta you are mix with Albanian orthodox population ....so what yuou do is stupid. But you even fight among your race you with bosnian muslims serbs what happen??
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Oct 4, 2008
 
Hyllus wrote:
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Ok ,if we are turks , then you are bigger turks of all.
At least we foght the turks ,while you biatch ass serbs sucked theyre cocks
ALBANIAN WARS
1389 -First Battle of Kosovo
1442-1453 - Venetian-Ottoman War
1443-1478 -Albanians, lead by Gjergj Kastrioti (Skanderbeg) resisted Ottomans;
1448 - Second Battle of Kosovo
1462-1479 - Venetian-Ottoman War
1481 - Herzegovina conquered by Ottoman forces
1499-1503 - Venetian-Ottoman War
1538 - Imperial Invasion of Preveza
1571 - Naval Battle of Lepanto
1645-1669 - Venetian-Ottoman War (War of Candia)
1683-1699 - Habsburg-Ottoman War
1684-1699 - Venetian-Ottoman War
1715-1718 - Ottoman-Venetian War
1797-1803 - Pashalik of Janina : Suliot Uprising
1821-1822 - Ottoman expedition against Ali Pasha, Pasha of Janina
1852-1853 =- Ottoman War with Montenegro
1861-1862 - Ottoman War with Montenegro
1910-1911 - Albanian Rebellion against Ottoman Rule
1912-1913 - First Balkan War; Montenegro conquered Shkoder, Serbia bulk of Albania
1914-1918 - World War I; Albanian neutrality violated
1920 - Albano-Yugoslav border conflict, over secessionist Mirdite
1923 - Greek troops evacuated southern Albania
1924 - Coup / Counter-Revolution in Albania
1926 - Rebellion in Northern Albania (Nov.)
1932 - Leftist-Modernist Uprising
1935 - Reformist Uprising
1937 - Reformist Uprising
1939- Italian conquest of Albania
1940-1941 - Graeco-Italian War, fought in southern Albania
1941-1944 - Albanian partizans fought Italian/German occupation
1946-1949 - Greek Civl War; Greek communist partisans operated from bases in Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Albania
1950-1952 - Counterrevolutionary Insurgency
1997 - Rebellion Kosova
2001- Macedonia
2003 - Albania joined Coalition of the Willing, sent troops to Iraq
These are just a small list of the wars for 500 years , there are much more.
And what you got against ottomans?
The war of Russia , get the hell out of here
Above we can find a syllabus reading from Evren Hodza's book titled:

"Manifactured History for brainwashed uneducated sheap herders with no identity and culture"
Alexandros

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Oct 4, 2008
 
Homer wrote:
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in battle of Dardania Albanian Epirot took actively role in coalition ,read history you brain washed mix Serbs Albanians.While we know thta you are mix with Albanian orthodox population ....so what yuou do is stupid. But you even fight among your race you with bosnian muslims serbs what happen??
Even the turkAlbanians great heroe Giorji Kastrioti was half Greek half Serb and not turkAlbanian like most of them.

The wturkAlbanians eere the Nazis best Allies and that is why we kicked out of chamouria...GOOD FOR US..and now they cry like babies

The turkAlbanians faught with the Italians and we threw them to the Ionian sea.

They even became Muslim so that they will not have to fight the Turks.

What a nation.......
pesky

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Oct 4, 2008
 
Alex, have you ever heard of Priapos ?
is he still revealing himself around those ruins in Athens ?

“putin sowed the seeds?”

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Oct 4, 2008
 
pomaks will never change their loyal(ties)?
Wtf

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Oct 4, 2008
 
Alexandros wrote:
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Even the turkAlbanians great heroe Giorji Kastrioti was half Greek half Serb and not turkAlbanian like most of them.
The wturkAlbanians eere the Nazis best Allies and that is why we kicked out of chamouria...GOOD FOR US..and now they cry like babies
The turkAlbanians faught with the Italians and we threw them to the Ionian sea.
They even became Muslim so that they will not have to fight the Turks.
What a nation.......
Giorji Kastroiti half Serbian half Greek? He was Albanian and you know it! Stop liring to yourself! You are desperate, I dont know why your are so filled with hate towards Albanians? You are a very sad person!
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Oct 6, 2008
 
Korpus wrote:
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Above we can find a syllabus reading from Evren Hodza's book titled:
"Manifactured History for brainwashed uneducated sheap herders with no identity and culture"
lol no identity and culture hehehehe gaylord xhoxha did not make history our history its with facts not like hellas history myth and lies.arvanitis and souliotis you wore told they are grek becouse the goverment wont you to belive. that not world historians.YOU BRAINWASHED BY YOU GOVERMENT SAYING NO ETHNIK MINORITYS IN GREECE .what the fuck hapend to arvanitis to souliotis to to macedonians to bulgarians to turks to jews to kurds even xhoxha at his time he said we got minority in albania
BCM

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Oct 6, 2008
 
albanian wrote:
<quoted text>lol no identity and culture hehehehe gaylord xhoxha did not make history our history its with facts not like hellas history myth and lies.arvanitis and souliotis you wore told they are grek becouse the goverment wont you to belive. that not world historians.YOU BRAINWASHED BY YOU GOVERMENT SAYING NO ETHNIK MINORITYS IN GREECE .what the fuck hapend to arvanitis to souliotis to to macedonians to bulgarians to turks to jews to kurds even xhoxha at his time he said we got minority in albania
The Arvanites and the Vlachs have choosen to identify with Greek Heritage and Culture idiot.

Anyone is free to ask them or bring proof otherwise. If it is of any significance, they are the ones who beat up with severity the illegal turkalbanians in Greece for insisting that they are albanian instead of Greek.

Cultural identification lies to the decision of the person involved and not to me or uneducated brainwashed turkalbanians who try to prove their non-existant civilazation.

They fought with for the indepedence of Greece and not for the wellfare of turkalbania or anyother midget nation. That by itself is proof of where these people belong.

now you can try to convince us all you can that your non-existant nation is significant...it is obvious that Inferiority complexes bring jealousy...

One final thought...the albanians current cultural achievemnts involve Trafficking of human Beings, Prostitution of its own children, Drugs, Crime and Murder..havent seen much else.

We have seen it and most of us in Greece have experienced it.

and that sais alot about the culture you have....

Respect is not offered it is Gained looser and the albanians in GReece have NONE.
Karmadh karderi

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Oct 6, 2008
 
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The Arvanites and the Vlachs have choosen to identify with Greek Heritage and Culture idiot.
Anyone is free to ask them or bring proof otherwise. If it is of any significance, they are the ones who beat up with severity the illegal turkalbanians in Greece for insisting that they are albanian instead of Greek.
Cultural identification lies to the decision of the person involved and not to me or uneducated brainwashed turkalbanians who try to prove their non-existant civilazation.
They fought with for the indepedence of Greece and not for the wellfare of turkalbania or anyother midget nation. That by itself is proof of where these people belong.
now you can try to convince us all you can that your non-existant nation is significant...it is obvious that Inferiority complexes bring jealousy...
One final thought...the albanians current cultural achievemnts involve Trafficking of human Beings, Prostitution of its own children, Drugs, Crime and Murder..havent seen much else.
We have seen it and most of us in Greece have experienced it.
and that sais alot about the culture you have....
Respect is not offered it is Gained looser and the albanians in GReece have NONE.
i am albanian , i am christian and shure Turkey is our alley , when i see you greeks insulting my country i feel soory for all thise Arvanits that fighted for scum like you , you showed me the great culture of greeks well i was in your proud school of evelpidon with my Albanian flag and when i said that i am an Albanian from south they said me from Vorio-epiros , wrong i said i am from the part of Albanian Land of chameria, and one thing my dear greek Ignorant Bubulima who was the great warrior of greek revolution talked only in Albanian to her crew, it is in your book, you betrayed Albanians cuz you are greek , better alley with turks cuz at last they are Man and not Pushti like you Kostas.
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BCM wrote:
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The Arvanites and the Vlachs have choosen to identify with Greek Heritage and Culture idiot.
Anyone is free to ask them or bring proof otherwise. If it is of any significance, they are the ones who beat up with severity the illegal turkalbanians in Greece for insisting that they are albanian instead of Greek.
Cultural identification lies to the decision of the person involved and not to me or uneducated brainwashed turkalbanians who try to prove their non-existant civilazation.
They fought with for the indepedence of Greece and not for the wellfare of turkalbania or anyother midget nation. That by itself is proof of where these people belong.
now you can try to convince us all you can that your non-existant nation is significant...it is obvious that Inferiority complexes bring jealousy...
One final thought...the albanians current cultural achievemnts involve Trafficking of human Beings, Prostitution of its own children, Drugs, Crime and Murder..havent seen much else.
We have seen it and most of us in Greece have experienced it.
and that sais alot about the culture you have....
Respect is not offered it is Gained looser and the albanians in GReece have NONE.
typical idiotic mohammedan argumentation.

Tell me Arben, The Norther Epirotes, the Hemariotes and the other more than 100.000 Greek speaking people, are they Greek or Albanian ??
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Karmadh karderi wrote:
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i am albanian , i am christian and shure Turkey is our alley , when i see you greeks insulting my country i feel soory for all thise Arvanits that fighted for scum like you , you showed me the great culture of greeks well i was in your proud school of evelpidon with my Albanian flag and when i said that i am an Albanian from south they said me from Vorio-epiros , wrong i said i am from the part of Albanian Land of chameria, and one thing my dear greek Ignorant Bubulima who was the great warrior of greek revolution talked only in Albanian to her crew, it is in your book, you betrayed Albanians cuz you are greek , better alley with turks cuz at last they are Man and not Pushti like you Kostas.
typical idiotic mohammedan argumentation.

Tell me Arben, The Norther Epirotes, the Hemariotes and the other more than 100.000 Greek speaking people, are they Greek or Albanian ??
Karmadh karderi

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BCM wrote:
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typical idiotic mohammedan argumentation.
Tell me Arben, The Norther Epirotes, the Hemariotes and the other more than 100.000 Greek speaking people, are they Greek or Albanian ??
typical zorbas arguementation
tell me Kosta the chameria and the chams and the other arvanits and more Albanian emigrants speaking Albanian are they greek or Albanian ???
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Karmadh karderi wrote:
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typical zorbas arguementation
tell me Kosta the chameria and the chams and the other arvanits and more Albanian emigrants speaking Albanian are they greek or Albanian ???
In Tsamouria we kicked the Tsamides back to their hole and and it appears to have been a great sucess of Greek Foreigh Policy seeing what scum you are..

The muhammedan turkoalbanian Illegal coopatriots of yours will soon have to be dealt with, as per the law and EU directives on illegal immigration ...start packing up

the Arvanites are a very happy and completely integrated group into the Greek society.

no reason to argue muhammedan..you see all has/wiil be solved no matter what idiotic nationalistic garbage you post in here.
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Corpeus Treus wrote:
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In Tsamouria we kicked the Tsamides back to their hole and and it appears to have been a great sucess of Greek Foreigh Policy seeing what scum you are..
The muhammedan turkoalbanian Illegal coopatriots of yours will soon have to be dealt with, as per the law and EU directives on illegal immigration ...start packing up
the Arvanites are a very happy and completely integrated group into the Greek society.
no reason to argue muhammedan..you see all has/wiil be solved no matter what idiotic nationalistic garbage you post in here.
you kicked back us , ok , one day we will be back to regain our land Xhianikoglou,Yes Arvanits are very happy but they are Albanian blood,and we other turko-Albanians one day we reagain our land and you will give one big pardon to those innocent Chams that your criminals killed. now Go Home xhianikoglou.
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Karmadh karderi wrote:
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you kicked back us , ok , one day we will be back to regain our land Xhianikoglou,Yes Arvanits are very happy but they are Albanian blood,and we other turko-Albanians one day we reagain our land and you will give one big pardon to those innocent Chams that your criminals killed. now Go Home xhianikoglou.
You can dream on all you want muhammedan turkalbanian boy, dreaming never hurt anyone. However it is a good idea to check the facts once in a while.

Your muhamledan turkalvanian copatriots are being exoplioted by our economy..i have to admit they work like donkeys..and the Greeks are getting richer and more powerfull using these donkyes. As long as they behave we keep them.

In albania we own many of the business so the Greeks profit even more by directly exploiting YOUR economy...do you know how much only AMC in net profit is making!!!...plus your economy depends heavily on the money which is remitted by your illegal coopatriots who get paid by GREEKS. In other words we OWN your economy..and any funny stuff will be catastrofic for you

The Nortern Epirotes have managed to impose most of their Greek demands to the muhammedans. No one dares to mess with them...and they have become bloody rich also.

your turkalbanian muhammedan copatriots literaly beg us to give them a permit to stay in Greece, probably some of your family members also, and believe me they will not get it in numbers any more.

So if you ask anyone who is a neutral observer:

"Up to now has managed to "Concquer" the other???...lets say that so far we OWN you asses...and that is why you have such infferiority complexes.

that is the truth i am afraid muhammedan boy, just face it.
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