"What does America owe whites!"

Just thought it would be funny to see what you all think in the favor of we whites compared to the "what does america owe the blacks" poll! please don't refrain from showing your true feelings be you a liberal believer in an equal and free America or a Conservative bible thumping wife beating racist...lol!

-"I am Saddam McCain and i approve this message"

I love white America,,,all the privalage, all the polution, all the SUVs...corn, hotdogs and free speech, wal-mart rocks and politics suck...but life in these here United States is great...

The state of Michigan answered this "topix" that's why i live here now.....

I am so ticked off with our CONGRESS.

Unlike the law catching up with Tom Petters, CONGRESS is so letting other

Wall Street BANKING executives, CEO's, and HEDGE FUND Managers

get away with the destruction of our economy, through outright theft of American 401K shareholders diversly invested in funds holding stocks in these companies by manipulating earnings for larger bonuses.

Why is CONGRESS letting them get away with this?

http://www.topix.com/forum/business/airlines/...

Whites owe themselves an education that leads to a broader perspective, the government does not owe them anything. After all of the years here from Europe; and all of the wars against native people; and years of slavery; and a brother against brother civil war; and years of division against each other, e.g., calling each other specs, diegos, pollacks, potato heads,kikes and other assorted pejoratives; and all of the Judeo-Christian feed hypocrisy, guilt, and anger; and all of the Prozac and Xanax; and lethargy and stupidity that elected George Bush; and the xenophobia that reelected him; I would say that whites, like most of us in this country, owe ourselves a bigger and broader intellect, and global perspective.

To be fair,
We need to stop all the handouts givin to other races and minorities,because by 2040 when we are a minority they will stomp all over us.Get rid of affirmative action hire people based on brains and whit not race/ethnicity.We need to stop pretending minorities are victimized this fuels there hate for us and they will probably not have the same sympathy when we are a minority.We need to be proud and take credit for all the wonderful innovative contributions to our nation,we should not feel guilty,we should not back down,we should take a stand ,just because we love our race,love our country we are not biggots!!!

Katrina, you seem to mirror you own history. "Stomping all over...." Who's been stomping who?

To be succinct,white contributions don't outshine any others. Oh yes, whites run the media for the most part, so misinformation has been their stock and trade for centuries. Having sad that, the times are a changing, and by 2040 your 'year of fear,' a whole new generation of multi-ethnic people will be on the American scene. This means that America is being who she is, just more openly. Another way to look at it is that none of us of African ancestry arrived here being the color that we are. We were really black when we stepped or were dragged off of those slave ships. Now Katrina, how do you think we got so lightened over the past 400 years? Soon the United States will be a complete multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society, and that will eventually drive out the notion that some of us are better than others.

Afterthought regarding handouts: 700 Billion dollars is going to who? Did you send your Stimulus Check back to the Gov if you got one?

Owe US? for what , only thing we are owed is monies that we invested with tax dollars that were not utilized for intended purposes in this system of fiat controlled monopolization off monetary debt slavery. Other then that the white man owes the land back to the Indians period.

Katrina wrote:

To be fair,
We need to stop all the handouts givin to other races and minorities,because by 2040 when we are a minority they will stomp all over us.Get rid of affirmative action hire people based on brains and whit not race/ethnicity.We need to stop pretending minorities are victimized this fuels there hate for us and they will probably not have the same sympathy when we are a minority.We need to be proud and take credit for all the wonderful innovative contributions to our nation,we should not feel guilty,we should not back down,we should take a stand ,just because we love our race,love our country we are not biggots!!!

yes yes yes yes yes yes!!!!!!!!!!

Saddam McCain wrote:

Just thought it would be funny to see what you all think in the favor of we whites compared to the "what does america owe the blacks" poll! please don't refrain from showing your true feelings be you a liberal believer in an equal and free America or a Conservative bible thumping wife beating racist...lol!
-"I am Saddam McCain and i approve this message"

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First off, you comparing an American war hero (John McCain) with a foreign leader who was VERY anti-American, anti-British & anti-Israeli & who murdered hundreds of thousands of his own people (Saddam Hussein) TRULY speaks volumes about your far leftwing bias -- slant.
You say "Be you a liberal believer in an equal & free America".-- Leftists aren't for equality nor freedom. Leftists claim that they are open-minded, tolerant, kind, caring & compassionate people. However, leftists are only open-minded, tolerant, kind, caring & compassionate with -- towards people who share their leftwing bias -- slant. Whenever ANYONE doesn't share the leftists beliefs, the leftist is very vicious & mean spirited. You say "Or a Conservative bible thumping wife beating racist".--- Well, there you go again with showing your far left bias -- slant. And there you go again with your leftwing hypocrisy. And again, you leftists claim that you are open-minded, tolerant, kind, caring & compassionate. Yet, you stereotyped & prejudged Conservatives as being Bible thumping wife beating racists.

Again, a leftist has displayed hyprocrisy & double talk.

Katrina wrote:

To be fair,
We need to stop all the handouts givin to other races and minorities,because by 2040 when we are a minority they will stomp all over us.Get rid of affirmative action hire people based on brains and whit not race/ethnicity.We need to stop pretending minorities are victimized this fuels there hate for us and they will probably not have the same sympathy when we are a minority.We need to be proud and take credit for all the wonderful innovative contributions to our nation,we should not feel guilty,we should not back down,we should take a stand ,just because we love our race,love our country we are not biggots!!!

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Katrina, good post. And I pretty much see eye to eye with you about everything which you said in your above post. However, Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans & Pacific Islanders
aren't the problem in America. Now, granted, there are some criminal Hispanics & "illegals" do put strains upon Americas social services. And "illegals" do put strains on Americas hospitals, schools & jails/prisons due to their overcrowding. However, MOST Hispanics are VERY hard working, decent, law abiding people who TRULY value & cherish work ethic, family values, morals, decency, education & law & orders.

And Hispanics are WAY BETTER than african Americans. Hispanics are WAY BETTER workers. Hispanics are WAY MORE reliable. Hispanics are WAY MORE responsible. Hispanics are WAY MORE competent. Hispanics are WAY MORE capable. And Hispanics are WAY MORE family oriented. And Hispanics don't call in sick, they don't sue & they have nasty, unappreciative attitudes which african Americans have. Hispanics are WAY BETTER than african Americans.

America has 2 "forces" which are NOT good.--- 1. Leftists (Primarily White leftists & african American leftists). 2. african Americans.

LTB wrote:

Katrina, you seem to mirror you own history. "Stomping all over...." Who's been stomping who?
To be succinct,white contributions don't outshine any others. Oh yes, whites run the media for the most part, so misinformation has been their stock and trade for centuries. Having sad that, the times are a changing, and by 2040 your 'year of fear,' a whole new generation of multi-ethnic people will be on the American scene. This means that America is being who she is, just more openly. Another way to look at it is that none of us of African ancestry arrived here being the color that we are. We were really black when we stepped or were dragged off of those slave ships. Now Katrina, how do you think we got so lightened over the past 400 years? Soon the United States will be a complete multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society, and that will eventually drive out the notion that some of us are better than others.
Afterthought regarding handouts: 700 Billion dollars is going to who? Did you send your Stimulus Check back to the Gov if you got one?

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LTB, "a continuation".--- You say "That more of us of african ancestry arrived here being the color that we are. We were really black when we stepped or were dragged off of those slave ships".-- Well, there you go again with using the ANCIENT past (Slavery) as a crutch & as an excuse. And there you go again with playing the "martyr - victim". And again, african Americans were BILLIONS OF TIMES WAY BETTER OFF having been brought to America than had they been left on the VERY filthy & backward continent of black africa. You say "Soon the United States will be a complete multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society".-- Well, even "if" this happens this doesn't mean that there will be "harmony" in America. And one CAN'T genuinely measure "race relations" via the Whites who are voting for Obama. MANY of these Whites are voting for Obama because of the "backlash" from the Bush administration as well as because these Whites see Obama as the "smiling & happy negro" & the "less threatening negro". And many of these Whites are trying to assuage their "White Guilt" &/or their parents "White Guilt".

And one can't genuinely measure "race relations" via people getting along at a club, bar, festival, sporting event, concert &/or at work.

LTB, you omitted 2 CRITICAL factors which mean MORE than race.--- Ideology & class. And in upcoming years, America will face WAY more problems in regards to the middle class continuing to dissipate, WAY more problems in the area of the job market, housing market, health care & education. And Americas underclass will continue to grow. And America will NOT be able to "accomodate -- assimilate" all of its people. Especially the underclass. And just look at every major state in America & look at its cost of living, job market, housing market, educational institutions & health care. And there won't be enough jobs to go around.

LTB wrote:

Katrina, you seem to mirror you own history. "Stomping all over...." Who's been stomping who?
To be succinct,white contributions don't outshine any others. Oh yes, whites run the media for the most part, so misinformation has been their stock and trade for centuries. Having sad that, the times are a changing, and by 2040 your 'year of fear,' a whole new generation of multi-ethnic people will be on the American scene. This means that America is being who she is, just more openly. Another way to look at it is that none of us of African ancestry arrived here being the color that we are. We were really black when we stepped or were dragged off of those slave ships. Now Katrina, how do you think we got so lightened over the past 400 years? Soon the United States will be a complete multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society, and that will eventually drive out the notion that some of us are better than others.
Afterthought regarding handouts: 700 Billion dollars is going to who? Did you send your Stimulus Check back to the Gov if you got one?

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LTB, "a continuation".--- You say "Afterthought regarding handouts: 700 billion dollars is going to whom?".-- True. However LTB, you are looking at this "bailout" WAY TOO simplistically. And this is why.-- What brought about the Subprime Crisis??-- Answer.-- The "buyers" biting off more than what they could chew. And MOST of these "buyers" were african American. And many leftwing democrats proposed the "everyone owning a home" for votes, so that they could get re-elected to office. And just some of the leftwing democrats who proposed this were Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, Barack Obama, Barney Frank & Christopher Dodd.

Furthermore, at LEAST 2 of the top CEOs who partook in VERY WIDESCALE FRAUD were Franklin Raines (Top head CEO of Fannie Mae) & Stanley O'Neal (Top head CEO of Merrill Lynch). And Raines & O'Neal are african American. And Raines gave Obama a VERY large donation. In addition, right before the House voted on the "bailout", Obama called MANY members of the leftist Congressional black caucus (Of the democratic party) & these black caucus members changed to support the "bailout".

LTB wrote:

Katrina, you seem to mirror you own history. "Stomping all over...." Who's been stomping who?
To be succinct,white contributions don't outshine any others. Oh yes, whites run the media for the most part, so misinformation has been their stock and trade for centuries. Having sad that, the times are a changing, and by 2040 your 'year of fear,' a whole new generation of multi-ethnic people will be on the American scene. This means that America is being who she is, just more openly. Another way to look at it is that none of us of African ancestry arrived here being the color that we are. We were really black when we stepped or were dragged off of those slave ships. Now Katrina, how do you think we got so lightened over the past 400 years? Soon the United States will be a complete multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society, and that will eventually drive out the notion that some of us are better than others.
Afterthought regarding handouts: 700 Billion dollars is going to who? Did you send your Stimulus Check back to the Gov if you got one?

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LTB, "a continuation".--- In regards to Americas "future".--- african Americans "future" in America is going to be VERY, VERY, VERY bleak. And it will be VERY bleak because of 2 CRITICAL factors.-- 1. Americas VASTLY growing Hispanic population. 2. The prison -- industrial complex. For 1, from at least the late 1970s Hispanics (Both "legal" as well as "illegal") have been welcomed into America. And Hispanics have been welcomed into America because they have "filled the gap" in place of african Americans in regards to Americas job -- labor market. And from the 1970s till now, MANY african Americans have been outsourced by Hispanics for aid, jobs & housing. And MANY schools & hospitals which are located in majority african American areas have been impacted something TERRIBLE!! And from the late 1970s till now, MANY african Americans have been 'forced' into the prison -- industrial complex. And back in early 2002, Hispanics overtook african Americans as being the numerically dominant "minority". And Hispanics will FAR surpass african Americans in regards to numbers. And from now on, the Republican Party & Democratic Party alike will primarily be "seeking out" the Hispanic vote rather than the african American vote. And african Americans are STILL at the bottom of Americas "food chain". And african Americans are STILL the last hired & first fired. And when White America gets a cold the african American "community" gets pnemonia or cancer. And things will be getting WAY, WAY, WAY WORSE a decade to 2 to 3 decades from now.

Louis Farrakhan on the leftwing & Ted Hayes on the Rightwing have said that outsourcing as well as the prison -- industrial complex is "destroying the african American community from within". And it will be getting WAY WORSE a decade to 2 to 3 decades from now. And they are BOTH 150% correct about this.

Now, the african American upper class & upper middle class should be able to "weather the storm". However, it will be ABSOLUTELY DISASTROUS for the african American "working class" & underclass (Especially for the underclass).

I don't recall making any excuses for anyone. America today is a residual effect of all times past in this country; whether you got here on the Mayflower or the Desiree. We have been lightened because we were chattels. That's a fact, and I believe over time there will be more and more race mixing voluntarily, not the Jeffersonian way. The way people identify with one another will change, and so will the issues.

As for Obama, he was not part of my thinking when I contributed to this Blog.

And those black CEO's who've benefited from the bailout....like all of the others, I hope they do the right thing.

Oh Johnny, nothing in my contribution suggests any stereotypes. Also, I have no way to know who the majority of buyers have been. But I do know that these transactions take at least two parties, so one party may just as culpable for the crisis as the other. Anyway, time will render a solution, or things may get worst.

Last thing Johnny. There have been no people on earth that have spread more disease than Europeans, including syphilis and AIDS.

Africa filthy. Europe's so called Dark Ages speak volumns, as well as 2000 years of atrocities committed in the name of God and whatever country. Had it not been for the influence of Native Americans, the words of the constitution would never had been formed, and freedom of religion would have continued to be spoken about in clandestine gatherings; and the witch hunts would have continued. The African (and most native peoples) was/is far superior intellectually and spiritually to those of the courts of Europe. And as human beings, far more compassionate. The Africans biggest challenge is dealing with being dis-Africanized throughout the African Diaspora, but mostly in the United States. That is an issue that African Americans have to deal with.

Future generations will experience the outcome.

LTB wrote:

I don't recall making any excuses for anyone. America today is a residual effect of all times past in this country; whether you got here on the Mayflower or the Desiree. We have been lightened because we were chattels. That's a fact, and I believe over time there will be more and more race mixing voluntarily, not the Jeffersonian way. The way people identify with one another will change, and so will the issues.
As for Obama, he was not part of my thinking when I contributed to this Blog.
And those black CEO's who've benefited from the bailout....like all of the others, I hope they do the right thing.

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You say "America today is a residual effect of all times past in this country; whether you got here on the Mayflower or the Desiree".--- You are correct about this. You say "We have been lightened because we were chattels".-- True. You say "That's a fact, & I believe over time there will be more & more race mixing voluntarily, not the Jeffersonian way".--- True. You say "The way people identify with another will change & so will the issues".--- Somewhat. And this is why.-- In the upcoming years in America class & ideology will play an even MORE critical role compared to "race". And America faces MANY "challenges".-- The dissipating middle class, "assimilating" the underclass, the underclass growing, job market, cost of living, health care & education.

You say "As for Obama, he was not part of my thinking when I contributed to this blog".-- This could be. However, when you brought up the $700 billion "bailout", etc. Obama does factor into this. Because Obama was just one of many leftwing democrats who "pushed" for "everyone owning a home". And here are some of the other top leftwing democrats who "pushed" for "everyone owning a home".--- Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, Christopher Dodd, & Barney Frank. And these leftwing democrats "pushed" for "everyone owning a home" for votes, so that they could get re-elected to office. And Americas middle class would "foot the bill" (Pay for) the underclass owning a home.

Furthermore, right before the House voted on the "bailout" Obama called many members of the leftist Congressional black caucus of the democratic party & Obama talked them into voting for the "bailout".

You say "And those black CEO's who've benefited from the bailout....like all of the others, I hope they do the right thing".-- True.

LTB wrote:

Last thing Johnny. There have been no people on earth that have spread more disease than Europeans, including syphilis and AIDS.
Africa filthy. Europe's so called Dark Ages speak volumns, as well as 2000 years of atrocities committed in the name of God and whatever country. Had it not been for the influence of Native Americans, the words of the constitution would never had been formed, and freedom of religion would have continued to be spoken about in clandestine gatherings; and the witch hunts would have continued. The African (and most native peoples) was/is far superior intellectually and spiritually to those of the courts of Europe. And as human beings, far more compassionate. The Africans biggest challenge is dealing with being dis-Africanized throughout the African Diaspora, but mostly in the United States. That is an issue that African Americans have to deal with.
Future generations will experience the outcome.

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LTB, you say "There have been no people on earth that have spread more disease than Europeans, including syphillis & AIDS".--- Now, in the past (The ANCIENT past) this was true (When Europeans came to the "New World"). However, recently ((Since the 1960s - When most of the black african nations got their independence)) there have been A LOT of diseases on the continent of black africa. Furthermore, black africa has been TOTALLY PLAGUED with AIDS. Just look at how many black africans are dying each & EVERY year because of AIDS. You say "Africa filthy".-- True. You say "Europes so called Dark Ages speaks volumes, as well as 2000 years of atrocities committed in the name of God & whatever country".-- True. Now, this the CRITICAL factor as well as difference.--- When Europe experienced the "Dark Ages" as well as the wars in the name of God, etc., this happened WAY back (ANCIENT history). Now, from the 1960s till now, practically ALL of black africa had been PLAGUED with crime, famine, AIDS, tribal wars, civil wars, massacres, genocides, economic corruption -- mismanagement(s), women & children getting their arms & limbs chopped off in civil wars, people bathing in rivers, people living in mud &/or dung huts & women walking around topless &/or totally nude "relieving" themselves on the sidewalks of urban centers.

maritime wrote:

<quoted text>i swear an african a,erican is boning your ex wife or something man because everything that comes out your mouth is black this or that jesus christ i thought i was bad

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maritime, you say "I swear an african American is boning your ex. wife".-- Nope. You are incorrect. And again, you are thinking something which isn't there. I'm 28, single & I was never married. You say "Because everything that comes out your mouth is black this or that".-- Nope. And this is TOTALLY not true. And again, you are thinking something which isn't there. On many threads I've commented about Whites who have done "dirt", etc.(Primarily White leftists). And on many threads I've talked about sports (Primarily boxing, football, baseball, etc.).

Oh, & maritime, don't you think that it is a tad bit hypocritical (Of you) that you think that I'm "racist" considering ALL of the VERY prejudiced & VERY racist threads & posts which you make about Whites?? And don't you think that it is a tad bit hyprocritical (Of you) considering that you CONSTANTLY make anti-White racial slurs??