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JOHN
Stockton, CA
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jimmie clemons wrote: <quoted text>I know, the Israelits only had the Tora! The new testament was written AFTER Christ was born! Those in the old testament did not have the Holy Spirit of the Lord God dwelling in them, as His children do now, after the Lord God died on the cross! Jimmy the New Testament was written after our Savior died, the Epistles were written to the new formed Churches. St. Ignatius wrote Epistles also which is not included in the New Testament, but this is how the faithful communicated. But you are really cutting yourself short by only counting on the Bible. The oral tradition will teach how the early Christians worshiped. The Eucharist was the center of their worship as it is for us today. You really need to get a good copy of the early Church fathers to really know how our faith was formed. Are you afraid of what you might learn?
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Falouja
Lansing, MI
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why do you bible thumpers keep posting on this site. This has been going over a year now. Its like trying to make peace in the middle east.
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JOHN
Stockton, CA
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jimmie clemons wrote: <quoted text>I know, the Israelits only had the Tora! The new testament was written AFTER Christ was born! Those in the old testament did not have the Holy Spirit of the Lord God dwelling in them, as His children do now, after the Lord God died on the cross! Jimmy the Torah was to sacred scriptures in which the Jews worship in Temple. This is our old Testament (of which the Catholics have 7 more books in the Old Testament that were thrown out by Protestants in the Reformation). How do you know that the Holy Spirit was not with the Jewish people before Christ came? Of course God was with his holy people, look at the prophets...they were guided and protected by God. Look at Moses and the burning bush. Jimmy go back and read your Bible.
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Minnesota Mary wrote: <quoted text>
Christ founded the Church and St. Peter served it, built it up wherever he went, and led it. He served as Bishop of Antioch as well as Bishop of Rome. Then we agree. Everything said about St. Peter would apply to Antioch and to Rome. At a minimum.
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PAD
United States
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Minnesota Mary wrote: <quoted text>
Faith and Works go together. You can't have one without the other and expect to enjoy eternal life with Christ. Read about the last judgment in Matthew 25:31-46. It's all about good works done in love. Notice the word "faith" isn't even mentioned. But that doesn't mean that it isn't important too. You have to take the whole Bible in entirety and not base your beliefs on one isolated section. Mary, are you just coming back with these statements because I am not a Catholic? You know that Scripture is very clear about in WHOM we believe, and WHO is our salvation. The Works,maybe you should define what they are, in order to clarify, what exactly are those actions which SAVE us.Faith is actioned by the Works which God ordains in us all who believe. Our Lord Jesus is the Salvation of the Father to us, not our faith and works. They are the human action to choose HIM. Our faith is energized to either choose or reject HIM. The Works prove that the inward work of GRACE has been appropirated.You are a woman and no doubt a mother bless your heart, think about the things you had to do to initiate the process of delivery, when your little one came through the birth canal.God wants physical, and mental response to His birthing in us His Holy Spirit through GRACE, as a testimony of that inward DEED or WORK of God in us!
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jimmie clemons
Huntsville, AL
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Mary Hammond wrote: <quoted text>
Sigh. Jimmie I don't think God meant that stupid people were automatically holy by virtue of being as stupid as possible, no.
YOu say stupid stuff, Douglas responds as the master of insult ceremonies, and hon, that just means you said something stupid and he insulted.
It does NOT mean your stupidity will win you your thorny crown in heaven or his insults gets him to hell.
It just means you were stupid and he insulted. No God involved there, believe me. NO hon, I know Satan is using him on this message board,to rebuck the Lord's children, and to agree with his brothers,and sisters!
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Minnesota Mary wrote: <quoted text>
Another one of your non sequiturs. Then you agree that Purgatory is an example of "pay as you go" theology. Thanks.
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jimmie clemons
Huntsville, AL
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Falouja wrote: why do you bible thumpers keep posting on this site. This has been going over a year now. Its like trying to make peace in the middle east. NO, it has not been a year! Might be that you stopping by, is not an accident!
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Belle Mead, NJ
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God is faithful wrote: <quoted text>
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That Peter eventually could be called a Saint I will agree...
But that the Church was built only upon Him I do not find that to be scripturally sound.... Reading from the Bible you do acknowledge that the "rock" passage exists. From that passage, how far are you willing to go? That the Church was built on the faith of St. Peter as expressed in the Bible? That the Church was built upon the faith of St. Peter? Just curious.
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Mary Hammond
Chico, CA
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Is there a ROMAN catholic around here that can answer a question? the bishops endorsed prop 8 overturning the gay marriage thing. Can they do that and retain tax exempt status? How is this different from endorsing a candidate?
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Reality Check
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jimmie clemons wrote: <quoted text>NO hon, I know Satan is using him on this message board,to rebuck the Lord's children, and to agree with his brothers,and sisters! I believe you meant 'rebuke'? Of course he is using me, Jimmie. And on his command I listen to all my Heavy metal records backwards so as I can hear 'his masters voice'. My favorite is Paranoid, by Black Sabbath. But here, things seem to go awry as all I can hear is, 'woman my with finished.' So I gave Deep Purple a shot,' and all I got there was 'sky the in fire, water the on Smoke.' Being a devout of the Horned One, I persisted and had a crack at AC/DC. I really thought I had it here, and got close with, hell to highway the on you're' But I've given it up as a bad job. The Horned One says, 'care I if see Atheist an stay, damned Be.'
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jimmie clemons
Huntsville, AL
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StarC wrote: <quoted text>
John 6
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*****Whoever eats 19 my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.***
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For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.
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Whoever eats ****my flesh and drinks my blood remains in ME and I IN him.****
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Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also *****the one who feeds on me will have life because of me.*****
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This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died,*****whoever eats this bread will live forever."****
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These things he said while teaching in the synagogue in Capernaum
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Since Jesus knew that his disciples were murmuring about this, he said to them, "Does this shock you?
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What if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before?
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It is the spirit that gives life, while the flesh is of no avail. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and life.
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****But there are some of you who do not believe."***
Jesus knew from the beginning the ones who would not believe and the one who would betray him.
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And he said, "For this reason I have told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by my Father."
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As a result of this, many (of) his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him.
Here it sez ‘Many returned to their former way of life and no LONGER ACCOMPANIED HIM”
This is you …… you have walked away.(From receiving HIM in Communion)
Be sure you read the Words betwn the *****
<>< Christ did "not" institute His "last" meal, on earth as a "human", to be used as a ritual! He was only telling them "the next time they will dine with Him , in Glory!
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Cruzader99
Atlanta, GA
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Mary Hammond wrote: Is there a ROMAN catholic around here that can answer a question? the bishops endorsed prop 8 overturning the gay marriage thing. Can they do that and retain tax exempt status? How is this different from endorsing a candidate? I can't believe you are asking such a question or even implying the Bishops should lose their tax exempt status just because they support a law that would be a moral, just law. This is endorsing a moral code of conduct. Far different from endorsing a candidate.
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“Spirit Unbound”
Joined: Apr 7, 2008
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Aslan
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christian rabbi wrote: <quoted text>I know she is , but she also is badly mistaken concerning the serpent woman. she started talking to her in April(I saw the thread), but the serpent woman was on here in March, which was when he posted the original picture of her avatar with the little green snake.
all a person has to do is google dryad and snakes and you will come up with hits concerning them.
the FACT REMAINS, SHE POSTED THAT PICTURE OF THE AVATAR WITH A GREEN SNAKE. DISCIPLE, AM AND MYSELF SAW IT. PLUS WHEN SHE SAID SHE NEVER CROPPED THAT PICTURE, SHE DID SAY SHE TRIMMED IT.
ROTFLOL.
GUESS I AM KINDA SLOW.THE Lord just revealed it to me.
NO SHE DIDNT LIE WHEN SHE SAID SHE DIDNT CROP THE ORIGINAL PICTURE.
SHE CHANGED IT. THE ORIGINAL PICTURE HAD THE LITTLE GREEN SNAKE.
THE NEXT ONE HAD A LARGE LEAF. BUT THAT LEAF WAS NOT IN HER HAND.
but it still is the same for you. you hate me and my words, so you will sell your soul to the devil to attack me.
AND YOU HAVE!
AND AS HER LINK SHOWED, THAT WAS NOT THE ONLY AVATAR THAT THIS GUY HAD MADE.
SO SHE NOT ONLY LIES BUT SHE IS VERY DECEITFUL TO GO ALONG WITH IT Don't know which thread you saw, but I've been around since February and registered originally under a different name in March. Sorry - but you're wrong. Have a nice day.
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JOHN
Stockton, CA
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jimmie clemons wrote: <quoted text> Christ did "not" institute His "last" meal, on earth as a "human", to be used as a ritual! He was only telling them "the next time they will dine with Him , in Glory! You are wrong, Star gave you the biblical proof.
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jimmie clemons
Huntsville, AL
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vmonkey56 wrote: Thanks! those topix lets me know to be looking up, for our redemption is near!
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JOHN
Stockton, CA
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John from NJ wrote: <quoted text>
Then you agree that Purgatory is an example of "pay as you go" theology.
Thanks. John, I don't know what you mean by pay as you go. I know that the Orthodox do not accept the theology of Purgatory. I read a book by Fr. Rose(can not remember his first name), that he talked about bell stations...how is that different than purgatory. But Purgatory is a cleansing state for those that die in charity with God but not worthy of Heaven.
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jimmie clemons
Huntsville, AL
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JOHN wrote: <quoted text>
You are wrong, Star gave you the biblical proof. Wrong! my Lord God never said "drink my blood, and chomp on my body"!
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PAD
United States
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Minnesota Mary wrote: <quoted text>
There is a Mass going on from sun up to sun down, never ending all over the world in fulfillment of the prophecy in Malachi 1:11-12.
"For from the rising of the sun to its setting my name is great among the nations, and in every place incense is offered to my name, and a PURE OFFERING; for my name is great among the nations, says the Lord of hosts. But you profane it when you say that the Lord's table is polluted, and the food for it may be despised."
The Mass is the re-presentation of the sacrifice at Calvary where we Catholics kneel to receive the graces that still flow from the Cross. It is the fulfillment of verse 11.
And people like you Jimmie Clemmons are fulfilling verse 12. I watched the link on the Church,John Moore narrated with other pastors and so on. IT was great!So basic and the way my church thinks totally, I have one problem though, don't we have that common denominator in Christ, in spite of our titles? Is the link Churches of Christ? Well that teaching was solid and right on, we believe exactly the same and have the same LORD, but the Church I go to is called the Assembly of God, now be careful how you respond, because we are doctrinely and in practice the same!I know the word assemby is not in the word unless you want to get technical about (Assembling yourselves together). I enjoyed the teaching totally, and want to look at the rest of them.
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“The Bone Yard”
Joined: Jan 25, 2008
Comments: 2095
Albuquerque, NM
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God is faithful wrote: <quoted text>
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Eph 3:20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,
The power that is working in you has no similarity to the words/ truths that Jesus spoke.
Irrelevant chronicles are of no consequence...To me. Yes they do. You are the on ewho has decided to shun them from your mind. I give to you what you have not seen for over 1500 years. I am sorry you do not accept His teachings for the truth that they are. God is faithful wrote: <quoted text>They do not witness of the true teachings of Jesus nor are they accurate in relating the events that took place while He sojourned upon the earth.
You might as well save the energy of your fingers in your attempt to persuade me to deviate from the truth of God's word.
I do not have the remotest interest in you drivel. I'm sorry, I think you misunderstood me. The Nag Hammadi Library is/are the teachings of Jesus that your religion has suppressed and /or destroyed......and they will be revealed. Whether you accept them or not, is your own choosing. I will continue to be witness to these truths and give the "good news" to all who will listen, and correctly see the words for their true meaning. "Whoever has ears should hear, whoever has eyes should see." I'm afraid that you may never see the truth, even as it stares you right in the face. Good Luck!
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