Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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blacklagoon wrote:

<quoted text>Orville, either something is TRUE or it's NOT, there is no third choice. Now the conflict between us, is how to tell if something is true. There is only ONE way to tell if something is true, science. You rely on a belief to tell you if something is true, but your belief can't be demonstrated, and apparently your fine with that. My problem is with Theists, is that they state their beliefs as FACTUAL, they are not FACTUAL, facts can be demonstrated, you simply have a belief that makes you feel good, fine. I would love to hear, "I have absolutely no evidence for what I believe, but I choose t believe it anyway." At least thats honest, not very logical, but honest.

Belzy wrote:

one more thing, how christian must everyone on this site be, we are all bagging eachother out. you all mag the Pope and catholics. the catholics open their mouth in defence and they are seen as terrible rominists! whats with that! if you all truly loved christ you would look for the similarities and look for unity, pry for unity. we are meant to be one Church! in stead everyone sits here trying to make themselves look better then everyone else. make catholics look like there evil, you bag out each individual denominations and the non christians watch and laugh while we single handedly destroy christianity!
obiedence and humity to christ word and church is vital!

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Oxbow wrote:

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Glad to see you back on this forum. Am wanting to follow up on what was said....what was the date of your heart attack??

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Orville wrote:

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You bear witness of Holy Gods truths.
And I join you 100% in " condemning the Catholic Church".

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blacklagoon wrote:

<quoted text>There is NO demonstrable observable evidence for a Deity, foolish of you to suggest it.

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jethro8 wrote:

<quoted text>if I gave the dog the cupcake,i wouldn't have a dog anymore,it's plastic,she got a steak for her birthday,and i'm still looking for hojo's post,haven't been on line in awhile,i came across your post commenting on what he said about jesus writing the letter about the catholic church being his church,so i know i'm getting close,i've been busy here haven't been looking for the last week,got family problems going on that needed serious attention,but i free now,and i'm going to start my search again. hope your doing well??

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jethro8 wrote:

another reason i was off line is because my nephew got married yesterday (june 10th)and the girl he married is from pa. so she doesn't know too many people here so the g/f and I pitched in to help her out getting things arranged,it was held at a lutheran church,my first time in one and it was interesting,it was a woman preacher/pastor or what ever they call themselves,which i didn't expect,and the church itself interested me because it was what a church should be,nothing fancy, no statues hung everywhere no gold candle sticks (they were brass)no fancy paintings or any of the trappings you see in other churches,it was very simple,a picture of jesus with 7 people kneeling around him was painted on the back wall of the church where the preacher stood and gave her speech and the vows thing,there was just a tiny cross under the picture that was about 1.5 ft. high,made out of brass,and obviously stained glass windows,and the most interesting thing i saw that I have not seen in a catholic church,(i haven't been to all of them yet) there was a bible in the book holder on the back of the benches,along with a book of songs.i'm not purposely singling out the C.C.,like i said i haven't been in all the churches yet,next one could be a baptist church who knows,but anyway i found it enjoyable because it was done very simply, the ceramony took a little more than an hour,which was good cause it was hot in there,and my g/f pointed out the fact that they combined both catholic and protestant traditions (for the lack of a better term)she realized it as the ceramony was going on,i didn't because i haven't been to a protestant church yet to see what goes on there,anyway like i said it was ok,again what i saw is what a church should be all about,there were no praises to mary or any saints that i heard,but i couldn't hear every thing,heard just praise to god and jesus,and going by what's written in the scriptures,that's the way it should be.and one last note,which kinda struck me funny the church is built out of granite and it sits on top of a large granite ledge/rock

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jethro8 wrote:

i read through some of the pages and i'd like to thank the people who wished me well(you know who you are)while i was gone,but it did seem since i changed the picture of the dog,i'm taking a back seat to her :),also when i get the wedding pictures down loaded i'll put them up so you can get an idea of what the church was like.

blacklagoon wrote:

<quoted text>There is NO demonstrable observable evidence for a Deity, foolish of you to suggest it.

LTM wrote:

PREVENT CAR DEATHS OF CHILDREN AND ANIMALS.
The interior of cars, even with the windows rolled down, can heat up to dangerous temperatures.
It takes only 20 minutes for the interior of a car to reach 120 degrees on a 70-degree day.
After 40 minutes, the interior of the car reaches 150 degrees.
Left in this situation, infants and children become dehydrated, overheated and can pass out or worse, die.
PEOPLE PLEASE NEVER EVER LEAVE YOUR CHILD OR PET INSIDE OF YOUR CAR, IN HOT WEATHER, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE HEARD OF THE DEATH OF CHILDREN OR PETS WHO HAVE DIED BECAUSE OF SOMEONE DOING JUST THAT. YESTERDAY A CHOCOLATE LAB PUPPY DIED IN A CAR . I KNOW HIS OWNERS MUST BE VERY SAD THAT THEIR THOUGHTLESS ACT CAUSE ITS DEATH.
YET NO DOUBT IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN. I AM ASKING EVERYONE WHO PASSES A PARKED CAR OR VEHICLE TO MAKE SURE A CHILD OR PET HASN'T BEEN ABANDON LIKE THIS. WE COULD PREVENT A SENSELESS AND GRUESOME DEATH OF A CHILD OR ANIMAL . THANK YOU.
PASS IT ON

Belzy wrote:

The church started by the apostles carried on through generations has always been the catholic church. the pope makes statements that are true. they hurt people feelings tough!
"And you will be hated by all for my name’s sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved" mark 13:13
I hear alot of talk about the eucharist.
Matt 26:26 As they were eating, Jesus took some bread and blessed it. Then he broke it in pieces and gave it to the disciples, saying, "Take this and eat it, for this is my body.".
jusus says THIS 'IS' MY BODY, not represent he said IS!, the apostles believed it is and via traditions so do all catholics. i believe jesus is not a liar, so when he says this is my body he meant it. when he said do it in rememberance od me and time and time again he meant it! literally.
protestsnt beliefs that it represented the body of christ is dated back after the split!
most denomination are almost there, you have christ GREAT! u miss some sacramnets! i would say they are massivily important.
anyways bother and sisters in christ God bless

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OldJG wrote:

The Roman Catholic Church as we know it can trace its beginnings back to the Emperor Constantine in the forth century, AD. The true Church of God started at Pentecost in the first century, and there have been true Bible-believing churches ever since.
True Bible-believing churches existed since Pentecost, and continued to exist after the formation of the Roman Catholic Church in the forth century. These churches were called by different names as they scattered throughout Europe and Asia. In some places they were known as "Donatists." In other places, "Paulicians," or "Ana-Baptists," or "Waldenses" or one of many other names. All of them had in common the fact that they stood apart from Rome, taught the biblical gospel of grace, and had the marks of a true New Testament church as identified in the Bible. Many of the members of these churches died at the hands of Roman inquisitors for that faith.
The true New Testament church of Bible-believing Christians were persecuted by Pagan Rome in the first three centuries of Christendom, and have been persecuted by the Roman Catholic Church ever since.
No group has killed more Christians than the Roman Catholic Church. To read an account of some of the vicious acts of the Roman Catholic Church against Bible-believing Christians, read Foxe's Book of Martyrs.

Orville wrote:

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Know we disagree brother. Man-Male, has been ordained by Holy God, to be the covering of the woman. thus, the Holy authority ordained by God, to oversee the woman. And there is a frightening responsibilty with this.
¶ Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoreth his head.
5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoreth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: Gen. 1.26 but the woman is the glory of the man.
8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. Gen. 2.18-23
10 For this cause ought the woman to have power 1 on her head because of the angels.
11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
I timothy:
will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.
9In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Belzy wrote:

one more thing, how christian must everyone on this site be, we are all bagging eachother out. you all mag the Pope and catholics. the catholics open their mouth in defence and they are seen as terrible rominists! whats with that! if you all truly loved christ you would look for the similarities and look for unity, pry for unity. we are meant to be one Church! in stead everyone sits here trying to make themselves look better then everyone else. make catholics look like there evil, you bag out each individual denominations and the non christians watch and laugh while we single handedly destroy christianity!
obiedence and humity to christ word and church is vital!

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Thank you, Orville, and thanks to you, too, justachristian1!!
You guys are doing quite well, yourselves!
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The Catholic Church has exchanged the "truth of God" for a lie! Romans 1:25!
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"...they KNOW God’s righteous decree that THOSE WHO DO SUCH THINGS DESERVE DEATH, they not only CONTINUE to do these very things but ALSO APPROVE OF THOSE WHO PRACTICE THEM."
if they did NOT approve of the reprobate ... they would kick them out of the church, rather than moving them to a new parish with a whole new group of children! But by their allowing the rapist to move on to new territory, they show the approve of the rapist!
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... "they invent ways of doing evil" .... yep!
They invented ways of doing evil to the so-called heretics ... and they blessed their instruments of torture. I highly doubt that God was watching them and thinking, "Good work, faithful and loyal servant!"
It's sickening to think they believe the church to be the 'true' church.
How can it possibly be the truth?

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blacklagoon wrote:

<quoted text>There is NO demonstrable observable evidence for a Deity, foolish of you to suggest it.

marge wrote:

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Nope, it represents what already was finished.