Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

TheBlackSheep wrote:

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Not very well played. You looked for a way out and you think you found one, but you didn't.
Matthew 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

Go back and read John 6:46

John 6:46

Amplified Bible (AMP)

46 Which does not imply that anyone has seen the Father [not that anyone has ever seen Him] except He [Who was with the Father] Who comes from God; He [alone] has seen the Father.

TheBlackSheep wrote:

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If the history book says that the U.S. started WWII by bombing Japan, on one page and then on another it states that Germany started the War, that is a contradiction. Get it?

There is no contradiction how and when WW II started. Would you like to try something else?

Dave Nelson wrote:

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You must have some internal angst because of that. What with your coming on here posing as some sort of elitist and judgment passer while hurling insults against those that just wish to believe in a deity.
You don't read what you write, do you?

Come on, I'm a happy guy Dave.

I do have high standards though.

And I call them like I see them.

Angst, shmangst.

IRYW wrote:

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Agreed. Nor has anyone seen the Invisible Pink Unicorn. If she is invisible, "how do you know she is pink"?, you might ask. Because we have faith.
I bet you think your brain was functioning when you posted that, don't you.......

Lol,:) I don't believe in pink unicorns do you?

Eagle12 wrote:

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This is really basic English, like,“See Spot run.”
Physical- Meaning material, or evidence in natural form. Not virtual.
Lineage- Geneology
Put them together,“Physical Lineage,” meaning material evidence of Geneology.

I asked you a very simple question and you cannot answer it, so you attack me vice admitting that you cannot find the term, "Physical Lineage", except for on religious sites and some blog.

Eagle12 wrote:

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Who saw the spirit of God?
Was it the disciples? Was it Mary? or Was it Jesus, God manifested in the flesh.

John saw it, too; or don't you remember reading that?

Eagle12 wrote:

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There is no contradiction how and when WW II started. Would you like to try something else?

OK, I realize that you are just yanking my chain. No worries.

TheBlackSheep wrote:

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OK, I realize that you are just yanking my chain. No worries.

I'm not trying to give you a hard time. At this point and time in history we know how, when and why WW II started. If I remember correctly the United States was totally committed after the bombing of Pearl Harbor.

You have done real good today. You have asked some really good questions.

TheBlackSheep wrote:

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John saw it, too; or don't you remember reading that?

God revealed to John who Jesus was. What did John see, go back and read it.

TheBlackSheep wrote:

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John saw it, too; or don't you remember reading that?

John saw a spirit but it did not say it was God he saw. People have spirits and so do Angels. Satan himself is also a spirit along with all his dark angels. What John saw was a revelation.

Going for now, it's been fun.

"Early Christianity spread from city to city throughout the Hellenized Roman Empire and beyond into East Africa and South Asia. The Christian Apostles, said to have dispersed from Jerusalem, traveled extensively and established communities in major cities and regions throughout the Empire. The original church communities were founded in northern Africa, Asia Minor, Armenia, Arabia, Greece, and other places.[39][40][41] by apostles (see Apostolic see) and other Christian soldiers, merchants, and preachers[42]. Over forty were established by the year 100,[40][41] many in Asia Minor, such as the seven churches of Asia. By the end of the 1st century, Christianity had spread to Greece and Italy, even India. In 301 AD, the Kingdom of Armenia became the first state to declare Christianity as its official religion, following the conversion of the Royal House of the Arsacids in Armenia. Despite sometimes intense persecutions, the Christian religion continued its spread throughout the Mediterranean Basin"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Christiani...

Pretty fast spread for something that didn't happen, eh?

All before Rome got hold of it.

Yep, it was all a conspiracy caused by some guy twittering all of those goat herders. A flash mob creation. Yep, these Topix atheists know a conspiracy when they see one.

Dave Nelson wrote:

"Early Christianity spread from city to city throughout the Hellenized Roman Empire and beyond into East Africa and South Asia. The Christian Apostles, said to have dispersed from Jerusalem, traveled extensively and established communities in major cities and regions throughout the Empire. The original church communities were founded in northern Africa, Asia Minor, Armenia, Arabia, Greece, and other places.[39][40][41] by apostles (see Apostolic see) and other Christian soldiers, merchants, and preachers[42]. Over forty were established by the year 100,[40][41] many in Asia Minor, such as the seven churches of Asia. By the end of the 1st century, Christianity had spread to Greece and Italy, even India. In 301 AD, the Kingdom of Armenia became the first state to declare Christianity as its official religion, following the conversion of the Royal House of the Arsacids in Armenia. Despite sometimes intense persecutions, the Christian religion continued its spread throughout the Mediterranean Basin"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Christiani...
Pretty fast spread for something that didn't happen, eh?
All before Rome got hold of it.
Yep, it was all a conspiracy caused by some guy twittering all of those goat herders. A flash mob creation. Yep, these Topix atheists know a conspiracy when they see one.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

Interesting how the spread appears primarily via a maritime route. The dark blue is up to 325 AD, the light blue to 600 AD. This religion was spread by the wealthier and more educated of the time.

Dave Nelson wrote:

"Early Christianity spread from city to city throughout the Hellenized Roman Empire and beyond into East Africa and South Asia. The Christian Apostles, said to have dispersed from Jerusalem, traveled extensively and established communities in major cities and regions throughout the Empire. The original church communities were founded in northern Africa, Asia Minor, Armenia, Arabia, Greece, and other places.[39][40][41] by apostles (see Apostolic see) and other Christian soldiers, merchants, and preachers[42]. Over forty were established by the year 100,[40][41] many in Asia Minor, such as the seven churches of Asia. By the end of the 1st century, Christianity had spread to Greece and Italy, even India. In 301 AD, the Kingdom of Armenia became the first state to declare Christianity as its official religion, following the conversion of the Royal House of the Arsacids in Armenia. Despite sometimes intense persecutions, the Christian religion continued its spread throughout the Mediterranean Basin"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Christiani...
Pretty fast spread for something that didn't happen, eh?
All before Rome got hold of it.
Yep, it was all a conspiracy caused by some guy twittering all of those goat herders. A flash mob creation. Yep, these Topix atheists know a conspiracy when they see one.

The Earth is approximately 3.75 billion years old. Homo sapiens approximately 200,000 years old. Modern humans about approximately year old. Hebrew god, about 3,500 years old. Christianity, 2,000 years old.

The Black Death spread quickly, too! What's your point?

Hidingfromyou wrote:

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Why is that sad? Because it's not your religion?

No...Because Comcast Is A Liberal/Socialist Enity, In My Opinion,
They Will Promote Shirrea Loans.....Think Shirreas Not Coming To Europe And America ?

TheBlackSheep wrote:

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The Earth is approximately 3.75 billion years old. Homo sapiens approximately 200,000 years old. Modern humans about approximately year old. Hebrew god, about 3,500 years old. Christianity, 2,000 years old.
The Black Death spread quickly, too! What's your point?

The Black Death happened, too?

Dumb shit. You all claim no such character, existed, but someone did for it to take hold like that.

BTW, you are assuming those numbers to be true from what you have read, which were guesses by others. The Christianity age is the only verifiable one.

TheBlackSheep wrote:

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Are you misrepresenting the data on purpose or what? 88% believe in a god or gods, not your god.
In the United States, how many of those 95% believe in the same god that you do? How many of them do you believe are going to hell, because they don't believe the way you do?
Parts of the 95% that you may believe are going to hell.
Catholic
Mormon
Jehovah's Witness
Pentecostal
Seventh-Day Adventist
Jewish
Muslim
By the way, give us a link to you demographics, cause mine states that the No religion group is up to 15.0%.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_...

Hell is an Abrahamic belief so if it bothers you when someone says you might go there, have you considered why that is?

hwyangel wrote:

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Hell is an Abrahamic belief so if it bothers you when someone says you might go there, have you considered why that is?

Don't you have questions to answer before you start asking them?

Benjamin Frankly wrote:

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The guy you quoted from the position of outsider looking is correct, surely doesn't matter how God does things, just does God exist? Did God once exist? If God made us why did he make us? Was God made himself? What does God hope for us? And should we care about what you hope for us?
It seems ironic to start that list of questions with “just” but compared to the number of questions in the how, this list is nothing.
But I also agree with those who say it's not worth it, after all Jesus did say do not question the Lord your God, I think not questioning is too high a price to pay, after all people in North Korea believe that Kim Jong-Il’s birth was prophesized by a swallow by singing in Korean, and that Kim Jong-Il’s birthplace was a secret military base in a mountain that by day and a double rainbow over it, and by night a new star appeared in the sky. That is to me the price of not questioning.

question, sure. I believe everyone questions one time or another their life philosophy. If you know a Christian that has never questioned their beliefs, then you know that Christian simply has a title "Christian", is a professional church goer, owns a bible. That is someone totally different than someone belonging to Jesus Christ. If a person truly belongs to Jesus Christ, they will question the Christian religion.

As far as did God always exist or was God ever made? See, its questions like those that lets me know only Jesus Christ can save a soul like the bible says. Because before becoming a Christian, that question always bothered me to, who made God. But after reading the bible I realized, outside of God, nothing exist. Before everything was, God is. That may read confusing to you, but it makes perfect sense to me.

Where did Jesus say in the bible not to question God?, I must have missed that. I know God has told mankind "come let us reason together". So that quote there you're saying I'm not familiar.

Understand your point about the korean leader.

Aerobatty wrote:

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This is exactly the problem hiding is talking about.
You don't desire truth.
You desire hope.
You can have both.
You don't.

??huh??