Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Eagle12 wrote:

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Where does the Bible say marry rapier?

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Buck Crick wrote:

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We can have no worthwhile debate on these things because, first of all, you don't have the intellect to argue at my level.

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Buck Crick wrote:

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Your post supports my position.
Atheism, from the Greek a-theos ("no-god"), is the philosophical position that God doesn't exist. It is distinguished from agnosticism, the argument that it is impossible to know whether God exists or not (Academic American Encyclopedia).
Atheism, system of thought developed around the denial of God's existence. Atheism, so defined, first appeared during the Enlightenment, the age of reason (Random House Encyclopedia-1977).
Atheism (from the Greek a-, not, and theos, god) is the view that there are no gods. A widely used sense denotes merely not believing in God and is consistent with agnosticism. A stricter sense denotes a belief that there is no God, the use has become the standard one (Cambridge Dictionary of Philosophy-1995).
Atheism is the doctrine that there is no God. Some atheists support this claim by arguments, but these arguments are usually directed against the Christian concept of God, and are largely irrelevant to other possible gods (Oxford Companion to Philosophy-1995).
Atheism is disbelief in God (Introduction to Philosophy, Perry and Bratman, Oxford University Press-1986).
Atheism from the Greek a (not) plus theos (god). The doctrine of disbelief in a supreme being (Dictionary of Philosophy and Religion, William Reese, HumanitiesPress-1996).
Atheism (Greek, a-[private prefix]+ theos, god) is the view that there is no divine being, no God (Dictionary of Philosophy, Thomas Mautner, Editor-1996).
Atheism is the belief that God doesn't exist (The World Book Encyclopedia-1991).
Atheism, Greek atheos-Disbelief in, or denial of, the existence of God (Oxford English Dictionary-1989)
Atheism, commonly speaking, is the denial of God. Theism (from the Greek theos, God) is belief in or conceptualization of God, atheism is the rejection of such belief or conceptualization.In the ancient world atheism was rarely a clearly formulated position (Encyclopedia Americana-1990).
Atheism, the critique and denial of metaphysical beliefs in God or spiritual beings. Atheism is to be distinguished from agnosticism, which leaves open whether there is a god or not, professing to find the question unanswerable, for the atheist, the non-existence of god is a certainty (The New Encyclopedia Britannia-1993).
According to the most usual definition, an atheist is a person who maintains that there is no god…(rejects eccentric definitions of the word)(The Encyclopedia of Philosophy-1967).
Atheism (Greek and Roman): Atheism is a dogmatic creed, consisting in the denial of every kind of supernatural power. Atheism has not often been seriously maintained at any period of civilized thought (Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics-Vol II).
Atheism denies the existence of deity (Funk and Wagnall's New Encyclopedia-Vol I).

Buck Crick wrote:

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Which is it, Chester?
That post was in November.
You are well aware I corrected the contention that the copper scroll had to do with Jesus, but that others in the collection are considered by many to be so.
Ever since then, including today, you have presented the idea, as it stood before I corrected it, that I think the copper scroll was about Jesus.
That is lying.
You proved it yourself.
You communicated to the forum with an intent to deceive. Do you know what that means?
It means you are a liar.
You don't seem to wish to extricate yourself from your repeated lie. So just keep lying.
Chester.

Buck Crick wrote:

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That National Academy of Science is a politicized organization.
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SupaAFC wrote:

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True, if of course, you ignore the fact that the prosecution was heavily supported by scientists.
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Based on the convincing arguments of the prosecution that 1), ID is a pseudoscience, and 2), ID is simply an attempt by the religious right to get creationism taught in science schools.
You can keep pretending that we have not noticed the blatant links between ID and creationism (because, of course, they are one and the same), but really Buck... the whole ID campaign got unstuck at Dover, and has never recovered to significantly challenge that decision. When even YOUR OWN TEAM has all but thrown in the towel, and changed their focus to the "academic freedom" angle, that should tell you that the game is up.
We know ID is creationism... scientists know ID is creationism... the law knows ID is creationism... the ID "scientists" know ID is creationism... and -you- know ID is creationism. Are you of the belief that if you keep repeating a lie, eventually everybody over time will believe it? It sure seems that way.

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Chimney1 wrote:

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Atheism is not a belief, except in the most extreme cases. Atheism is merely the lack of belief. There is no evidence for gods...so why should anyone believe in them?

Chess Jurist wrote:

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What a hoot.
Everyone's got an agenda except copper scroll boy.

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NightSerf wrote:

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Seems to me we went through exactly the same process with bossdrop. Funny how we see the same things so many times presented as though it were original and new...

Aura Mytha wrote:

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It actually does have a political agenda , it was appointed specifically for this purpose. But it is to the benefit of those they serve.
Mission
The National Academy of Sciences (NAS) is a private, non-profit society of distinguished scholars engaged in scientific and engineering research, dedicated to the furtherance of science and technology and to their use for the public good.
An Act of Congress, signed by President Abraham Lincoln in 1863 at the height of the Civil War, calls upon the NAS to provide independent advice to the government on matters related to science and technology. The National Research Council was created under the NAS charter in 1916 to extend the scope of the NAS in its advisory role. The National Academy of Engineering and the Institute of Medicine were organized under the NAS charter in 1964 and 1970, respectively.
Since 1863, the nation's leaders have turned to the National Academy of Sciences for advice on the scientific and technological issues that frequently affect policy decisions. Most of the institution's science policy and technical work is conducted by the National Research Council (NRC), which was created expressly for this purpose and which provides a public service by working outside the framework of government to ensure independent advice on matters of science, technology, and medicine. The NRC enlists the nation's top scientists, engineers, and other experts, who volunteer their time to study specific issues. The reports that result from their deliberations have led to some of the most significant and lasting improvements in the health, education, and welfare of all Americans. The Academy's service to government has become so essential that Congress and the White House have issued legislation and executive orders over the years that reaffirm its unique role.
http://www.nasonline.org/about-nas/mission/

Buck Crick wrote:

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She made up the "process".
It never happened.
You are an idiot.
Why don't you try the "process" of thinking once?

Aura Mytha wrote:

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It actually does have a political agenda , it was appointed specifically for this purpose. But it is to the benefit of those they serve.
Mission
The National Academy of Sciences (NAS) is a private, non-profit society of distinguished scholars engaged in scientific and engineering research, dedicated to the furtherance of science and technology and to their use for the public good.
An Act of Congress, signed by President Abraham Lincoln in 1863 at the height of the Civil War, calls upon the NAS to provide independent advice to the government on matters related to science and technology. The National Research Council was created under the NAS charter in 1916 to extend the scope of the NAS in its advisory role. The National Academy of Engineering and the Institute of Medicine were organized under the NAS charter in 1964 and 1970, respectively.
Since 1863, the nation's leaders have turned to the National Academy of Sciences for advice on the scientific and technological issues that frequently affect policy decisions. Most of the institution's science policy and technical work is conducted by the National Research Council (NRC), which was created expressly for this purpose and which provides a public service by working outside the framework of government to ensure independent advice on matters of science, technology, and medicine. The NRC enlists the nation's top scientists, engineers, and other experts, who volunteer their time to study specific issues. The reports that result from their deliberations have led to some of the most significant and lasting improvements in the health, education, and welfare of all Americans. The Academy's service to government has become so essential that Congress and the White House have issued legislation and executive orders over the years that reaffirm its unique role.
http://www.nasonline.org/about-nas/mission/

Chess Jurist wrote:

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What a hoot.
Everyone's got an agenda except copper scroll boy.

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Buck Crick wrote:

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Do not address me until you correct your lies.

NightSerf wrote:

<quoted text>Somehow you missed "Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist." That is the sense in which most modern atheists use the word. Unlike classical Greek and Latin, English is a living and dynamic language, and the meanings of English words change both with context and with the times. Only in recent times has the word been defined by those who actually profess atheism, and in most discussions, that definition must needs take precedence over those put forth by our opponents. It makes no more sense to allow atheists' enemies to define the word than it would to allow neo-Nazis and skinheads to define Judaism.
You are simply wrong about this. Until you admit that, no meaningful conversation can take place.

Buck Crick wrote:

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She made up the "process".
It never happened.
You are an idiot.
Why don't you try the "process" of thinking once?

Chess Jurist wrote:

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Please provide a link to those lies, copper scroll boy.

River Tam wrote:

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I bet she did when she was 12.

NightSerf wrote:

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Predictably, you respond with insults instead of intelligent discourse. Why do you make yourself so easy to dismiss as a serious voice withing the forum?

Buck Crick wrote:

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Do not address me until you correct your lies.