Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

True Truth wrote:

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Hahahaha! Dude did you like, just attempt to kill me by making me die of laughter? Are you even reading what you are writing?
And I hate to break it to you, but you are not that special. If you not an atheist or theist, you are an agnostic. If your not the general agnostic, then you are either an atheistic agnostic, or theistic agnostic. Yes, those are categories. Everyone has a category. I know you had this whole misterious undefined unknown category thing going for you, but sorry to burst your bubble.
And even you were atheist, people group atheists all the time. Since when does one have to have a book or formal societal order, in order to be grouped and branded?

I would grudgingly accept a qualified "agnostic".

I reject "atheist" simply because of you militant believer-types refuse to accept anything but your own evil, false definition for the word...

...it really is as simple as all that.

I reject *your* false label of me, as sternly as you reject my characterization of the violent muslims as being representative of muslims in general.

True Truth wrote:

And what do you think the Quran is? An "Islam for Dummies" book?

Works for me: it seems to fit the majority, if not the whole of the believers in it.

True Truth wrote:

You haven't read the Quran,

False. I've read more than enough to draw some conclusions.

So you are lying, here, in a lame attempt to gloss over what is a hate-based book of instructions on How To Murder Non-Muslims.

...and I stopped reading at this point...

If you're going to twist my words, if you're going to force-feed **your** labels of what you WANT me to be onto me?

I've no interest in reading any more of your rants....

...as long as the Quoran contains verses advocating the MURDER of non-muslims, in the name of the Quoran's God?

It's an EVIL BOOK.

Period.

And people who SUPPORT it?

Are supporting evil.

Period.

And? They are **directly** responsible for people who DO go out and murder people in the NAME OF the Quoran.

Period.

It really is as simple as all that....

...your lame attempts at apology notwithstanding.

kaitouinu88 wrote:

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Funny how the nonreligious countries are so peaceful while religious countries are constantly bickering and fighting. Really makes you reexamine religion, right?

Exactly.

wolverine wrote:

How Many Non Religious Countries Do You Know Of ???

Switzerland. Sweden. Off the top of my head.

The Danish are pretty non-religious, too.

In the British Isles' latest poll, the non-religious outnumbered the religious on all there really important issues, so they almost qualify.

But those three are excellent examples.

Here are the Top 10 least religious countries in the world:

1. Sweden (up to 85% non-believer, atheist, agnostic)
2. Vietnam
3. Denmark
4. Norway
5. Japan
6. Czech Republic
7. Finland
8. France
9. South Korea
10. Estonia (up to 49% non-believer, atheist, agnostic)

This List Does Not Surprise Me !

But It Is Not To Say They Are Non Religious....Just More Atheist Then Believers !

Sweden Is A Fine Example...Public Parks Leagalized Drug Parks...Shooting Up In Plain Sight Of Passing Children...Needles Scatered All Over The Parks...WOW Do I Want To Be Like Them !

wolverine wrote:

Sweden Is A Fine Example...Public Parks Leagalized Drug Parks...Shooting Up In Plain Sight Of Passing Children...Needles Scatered All Over The Parks...WOW Do I Want To Be Like Them !

You've been there and seen it right, or did you learn that at your bible class

Well Joe...I Have Seen Documentaries Along With The Internet ! How Bout You ??

Given the experiences of countries such as Great Britain, Switzerland, The Netherlands, China, Japan, Spain, Egypt, Iran, and Thailand, it is little wonder why countries that traditionally have had lenient drug laws are all moving in the direction of illegalization.

Joe Fortuna wrote:

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You've been there and seen it right, or did you learn that at your bible class

he does not belong to any religion and he does not attend ANY classes, he rejects knowledge. He is a religitard, even the christians do not accept him.

Joe Fortuna wrote:

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You've been there and seen it right, or did you learn that at your bible class

It's another Lie For Jesus.

Sweden has one of the **lowest** crime rates in the world (last time I checked).

Lowest murder rates, too.

Which says a lot, I think.

B. The Netherlands
Proponents of legalization almost certainly would cite Amsterdam as the drug Mecca of the Western world. Anyone may go into the restaurants in this city and order marijuana and hashish from a menu; further, heroin and cocaine have been decriminalized for all practical purposes. The police simply leave the users alone. Consequently, health officials estimate that Amsterdam has 7,000 addicts, 20% of whom are foreigners.58 These addicts are responsible for 80% of all property crime in the city, thus necessitating that Amsterdam maintain a police presence far greater than those of cities of comparable size in the United States.59
The Dutch have not raised one dollar in tax revenue from drug sales, and drug violators account for 50 percent of the Dutch prison population, a higher proportion than in the United States.60 The Netherlands is the most crime-prone nation in Europe and most drug addicts live on state welfare payments and by committing crimes.61 Nationwide, the number of reported crimes increased to 1.3 million in 1992 from. 812,000 in 1981.62 Faced with public disgust at home over soaring drug related crime and pressure from other European Community countries to strengthen drug laws, Dutch authorities are implementing an aggressive program to reduce drug-linked crimes and disturbances and show new teeth in combatting illegal drug sales.63 Eberhard van der Laan, leader Of the Social Democrats in the Amsterdam City Council says, "People are absolutely fed up with all the troubles caused by drug addicts - car windows broken, noise, whole streets almost given up to the drug problem."64 Legalization advocates claim that marijuana use in Netherlands has not increased since the laws were liberalized, but the number of Amsterdam drug cafes rose from 30 to over 300 in one decade. They also fail to note that daily marijuana use by U.S. youth has declined by 75 percent.65
C. Switzerland
Much like Amsterdam, Switzerland until recently followed a policy of decriminalization. Indeed, a city park in the town of Zurich for many years was allowed to be a haven for drug users - police simply would ignore the problem by claiming that it was better to have all the addicts in one place rather than having them roam throughout the entire city.66 Unsurprisingly, in February of 1992 Switzerland ended this experiment with decriminalization after experiencing an unacceptable increase in use, violence, crime and health costs and consequences.67 Specifically, the number of addicts residing at the park (called Platzspitz) jumped from a few hundred in 1987 to over 20,000, by early 1992.68 Approximately 20% of these addicts were foreigners who came to Zurich to take advantage of the city's lax drug laws.69 In deciding to close the park, city officials cited the increased incidence of crime and prostitution--as Andres Oehler, a municipal spokesperson stated, "it was felt that the situation had got out of control in every sense."70
D. Spain
Since 1983 in Spain, it has been legal to use, but not sell, cocaine and heroin. Recently, however,
Spanish officials have begun a crack-down on drug pushers due to a dramatic increase in the addiction rate.71 Unsurprisingly, Spain and Italy, which also legalized use of cocaine and heroin, have the highest rates of both drug use and overdose of all European countries.

Murder rates by country:

"http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_per... ;

Coming in at #56 out of 62....

Switzerland.

Sweden not listed on that one.

But wait...

According to here:

"http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2009/... ;

Sweden has a rate of 1.2 per 100,000 persons (as of 2004).

On the same map, Switzerland has 2.9 per 100,000.

(the US has 5.9 for example)

So in my first link, Sweden was OFF THE CHARTS!

Less than the top 62....

So....

The conclusions is?

The MORE you remove RELIGION from your country?

THE LESS MURDERS YOU GET.

Nice...

Notice how *I* posted references to my data.

Notice how the Religitard LIAR did not.

Make from that what you will...

If he's not out-and-out lying?

HE IS A THIEF, for failing to give credit to the source he plagerized....

Way to GO, there Religitard.

Yes, wolverine from Greely, CO -- I'm talking about YOU.

daytimedrama wrote:

Omg this post is almost at 6666. Its a bad omen. stop posting now or else who knows what will happen. God has spoken.

You should have made your post about 6000 posts ago.

Your bible says nothing about 6666

Bob...You Poor Misguided Soul....http://www.druglibrary .org/schaffer/DEBATE/myths/myt hs4.htm

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/DEBATE/my...

Bob...The Murder Rate Is Low Because All The Citizens Are Fricken Stoned ! LOL

It Was Too Long To Give The Whole Thing BOB.....You Are A Dork