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LETTER: Stand up for the unborn child

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Jan 27, 2008
 
playntravel4fun wrote:
If some Americans are so ready to fight for the health and safety of the unborn child? Why do those same Americans whine and moan when they perents need food, housing, clothing and medical aid to raise those same children properly???
I've often wondered that myself. Can't say that those that do complain about paying taxes into aid programs are all PL, but yeah I understand where you're coming from.

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Jan 27, 2008
 
Lucy44 wrote:
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OOPS - guess I am pro-choice then.
I just said this because I don't know wth a "genuine" PL'er is or a so-called PC'er for that matter.

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Jan 27, 2008
 
Johnny13 wrote:
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You guys are scaring me. We defused the terrible 2s with sign language, and are hoping tom lay the groundwork for a respectful adolescence on both sides.
There is hope! While our first was hell on wheels, our youngest never gave her a minute's trouble. She was a little lazy about doing chores, but she was always respectful of us, always fun to be around, and graduated in the top 5% of her class. She's now at Univ. of Illinois majoring in math. I don't think she ever yelled at me once. So chin up, maybe your little angel will be like mine!

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Jan 27, 2008
 
Sorry, Topix is doing the double post thing again.

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Jan 27, 2008
 
flopears123 wrote:
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I've often wondered that myself. Can't say that those that do complain about paying taxes into aid programs are all PL, but yeah I understand where you're coming from.
Yes, it is not only the PL's complaining about taxes for social programs but, those who are pro-choice are not telling others, who already know they are neither emotionally or finacially ready and able to raise a child, that they must have the child anyway. There is nothing wrong with personal responsibility (Another concept PL's preach about) I agree, yet, part of having personal responsibility is also having the freedom to decide for yourself when it is the right time for you yourself to start a family.

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Jan 27, 2008
 
playntravel4fun wrote:
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Yes, it is not only the PL's complaining about taxes for social programs but, those who are pro-choice are not telling others, who already know they are neither emotionally or finacially ready and able to raise a child, that they must have the child anyway. There is nothing wrong with personal responsibility (Another concept PL's preach about) I agree, yet, part of having personal responsibility is also having the freedom to decide for yourself when it is the right time for you yourself to start a family.
Exactly, I agree.

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Jan 27, 2008
 
lalalulu wrote:
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My little angel just came home drunk. Lovely.
Oh my gosh. Hope everything's okay.

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Jan 27, 2008
 
truth-teller wrote:
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Especially around puberty....
"NO ONE ELSE HAS TO!! YOU ARE SUCH SLAVEDRIVERS! I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING I DON'T WANT TO DO! YOU CAN'T MAKE ME! I'LL CALL THE COPS (my personal favorite, it makes me laugh everytime, a mistake, because it makes her even angrier)"
I hope boys are better, the ultrasound tech said this one is male....another girl going through puberty would have me drooling and banging my head on the wall. They just suck you in when they are little, thinking they are the sweetest little things....then BLAMMO, right between the eyes! Although, there are glimpses of your sweet little angel at times....I love those times.....
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She'll be back :)

And I do think boys are easier as far as being a mother is concerned, at least that's been my experience. My husband no doubt thinks girls are easier, lol.

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Jan 27, 2008
 
lalalulu wrote:
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My little angel just came home drunk. Lovely.
Oh no! I hope everything's okay.

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Jan 27, 2008
 
flopears123 wrote:
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Mine has never raised his voice, he's argued his point, and slammed doors, and said the cop thing. I just handed him the phone when he did. Oh sneaking out of the house is a good one. He's done that once and never did it again and we never had to say a word to him lol.
LOL, that's funny. I never got the cop comment from my son, but I did get the 'that didn't hurt' when I spanked him. It only took one "would you like it to?" to convince him not to say it again :) I used to worry about what I'd do when he got taller than me (this was after his father died) because I figured I'd be doing it alone. But even if I was still alone, I wouldn't have to worry. He's a great kid, just likes to argue a lot (and no, he doesn't get that JUST from me, lol).

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Jan 27, 2008
 
lalalulu wrote:
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EXACTLY! Now you've got it!
I've always gotten it, Lulu.

What you don't seem to get is; we don't need to allow choices people are responsible for making that result in a negative (like death) for *another* human being, to be legal or to remain legal.

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Jan 27, 2008
 
Lucy44 wrote:
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Not meeeeeeeee, I am not THAT Lucy!!!!
(by the way, I also chose my name because I am a HUGE fan Of Lucille Ball - I mean BIG TIME!! lol)
So is LucyRicardo/Ralphina. I think she gets into all the oldies. I used to watch the old, old, old reruns on Nik at Nite.

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Jan 27, 2008
 
Moncie wrote:
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Why not Lynne? Why can't people change their convictions/principles based on what others say? Who the hell are you to decide who is "genuinely pro-life" and who isn't? You make me sick!
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Here Moncie, once again I'll walk you through.
People CAN change their convictions/principles based on what others say.

If their convictions change, it's because they weren't really (solid) in what their previous convictions were in the 1st place. Anyone who is solid in their pro-life convictions/principles about abortion, doesn't change those principles.

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Jan 27, 2008
 
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LOL, that's funny. I never got the cop comment from my son, but I did get the 'that didn't hurt' when I spanked him. It only took one "would you like it to?" to convince him not to say it again :) I used to worry about what I'd do when he got taller than me (this was after his father died) because I figured I'd be doing it alone. But even if I was still alone, I wouldn't have to worry. He's a great kid, just likes to argue a lot (and no, he doesn't get that JUST from me, lol).
I tried that spanking and I just couldn't do it. I usually ended up crying too lol. We grounded....alot lol. Mine is the same way. His dad says he does get it from me. He doesn't argue as in shouting, but lord it's just like he were 5 again sometimes. Why can't I this, why can't I that. Of course he's 23, but even tho he's still at home there are rules to be respected.

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Johnny13 wrote:
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You guys are scaring me. We defused the terrible 2s with sign language, and are hoping tom lay the groundwork for a respectful adolescence on both sides.
Good luck.:-)

Johnny, I believe teenagers were created so that by the time they graduated and were ready to leave home, we'd be ready to kick them out of the nest. ;-)

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Lynne D wrote:
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(sigh)
Here Moncie, once again I'll walk you through.
People CAN change their convictions/principles based on what others say.
If their convictions change, it's because they weren't really (solid) in what their previous convictions were in the 1st place. Anyone who is solid in their pro-life convictions/principles about abortion, doesn't change those principles.
Says who...you? Anyone who is intelligent and thoughtful about their beliefs examines them from time to time. Perhaps there is new information, or maybe they've just grown as a person and don't feel the way they once did. Why can't you understand that? It's really very simple.

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Lynne D wrote:
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I've always gotten it, Lulu.
What you don't seem to get is; we don't need to allow choices people are responsible for making that result in a negative (like death) for *another* human being, to be legal or to remain legal.
Could you please elaborate, because I don't understand your logic in not allowing choices for for people who make mistakes that result in death. The justice system does it all of the time. It's called plea bargaining. So do you believe that we should just allow people that are charged with murder by the DA but are actually only guilty of negligent homicide the choice not to plea bargain?
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playntravel4fun wrote:
If some Americans are so ready to fight for the health and safety of the unborn child? Why do those same Americans whine and moan when they perents need food, housing, clothing and medical aid to raise those same children properly???
If you read back over these threads, it has been many of the so-called prochoicers that have been talked about money issues to support abortion. I don't remember any prolifers doing that.

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Jan 27, 2008
 
lalalulu wrote:
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My little angel just came home drunk. Lovely.
I guarentee if that was said by a PLer here about their 13 yr. old, the PCers here would have jumped all over the PLer with some nasty stuff.

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Jan 27, 2008
 
Bitner wrote:
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Wait just one damn minute. Are you saying that Argentina and Columbia are not countries, but are IN the country of Brazil? Is that what you are saying?
The level of ignorance is stunning. What a dimwit it is. How can a middle aged woman be so stupid & unaware of the world as to not know that & have to google it to get wrong information? How is that even possible? Yet liar spouts crap as if she knows something. It's amazing.
Sorry, flopears, sometimes liar's sheer ignorance is just too remarkable not to be noted.
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