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LETTER: Stand up for the unborn child

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“Freedom means choice”

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Big Sky wrote:
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Nope....and this has been 'clarified' several times....if you had a memory.
As I said, he apologized for offending people in using David Duke as his reference, when DD's racist issues were brought to his attention.
It was the racist issues that were offensive, DD being such and all the accusations that stemmed from his using DD as a reference.
The fact that he wasn't familiar with DD being a racist shows just how much racist material he's into.
The topic he brought up concerning the Jewish abortion doctors was basically overlooked because everyone went crazy over the mention of DD's name.
He never really intended to discuss DD, but his topic. Since the pc gang's agenda is to defame those who are pl, imo, they had no interest in his topic....only in trying to label him as a racist. That's why the topic how really brought up to discuss has basically never been addressed.
Its not a real discussion that's desired, but labeling, demeaning, and trying to keep people from really taking a look at pl views that's going on. That's why the focus is always on the insults and saying such things as,'you're the joke of the forum'. It really shares the pc 'goal and agenda', not the truth, imo.
If you note...its usually pc people who post such. And that's why its usually the pl doing the defending....they could just post on topic if everyone was interested in real discussion. When they do, much of the pc response is accusations, not response to the topic.
As Dew made so clear as she stepped back on and posted to the affect of....is NR still around? It is the pc agenda to insult, accuse, and demean the pl ...with the goal that they'll leave the forum, imo. And that's my 'opinion' admittedly, and its an opinion I believe is true.
"It was the racist issues that were offensive, DD being such and all the accusations that stemmed from his using DD as a reference."

You lie. The accusations of racism ALSO stem from his own words, saying that he agrees with the racist sentiment expressed regarding Jewish doctors performing abortion to get rid of Gentiles. He said he agrees with that statement, several times.

"The fact that he wasn't familiar with DD being a racist shows just how much racist material he's into."

No one accused him of being 'into racist materials'. He's been accused of being racist, based upon his own words.

"Since the pc gang's agenda is to defame those who are pl, imo, they had no interest in his topic....only in trying to label him as a racist."

Another lie, we do no such thing. Any defamation comes from the PLers themselves. The fact is that we DID address the topic, which was racist, and he agreed with that racist position.

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Big Sky wrote:
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.... You guys did what you always do....got on him when you detected he was pl....
Jackass,

We got on him because he was a PIG, talking about getting multiple women knocked up and such. This was REPEATEDLY indicated to you.

Are you drunk 75-80% of the time? Or are you just plain stupid?

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Brilliant wrote:
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Actually, it seems like the worst of the nuts are gone, at least for now.
You should stay and have a nice discussion, before it all goes to hell again!
You spoke too soon. The drunken meter maid with the faulty memory is still around.

“Born OK the First Time”

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"It was the racist issues that were offensive, DD being such and all the accusations that stemmed from his using DD as a reference."
You lie. The accusations of racism ALSO stem from his own words, saying that he agrees with the racist sentiment expressed regarding Jewish doctors performing abortion to get rid of Gentiles. He said he agrees with that statement, several times.
"The fact that he wasn't familiar with DD being a racist shows just how much racist material he's into."
No one accused him of being 'into racist materials'. He's been accused of being racist, based upon his own words.
"Since the pc gang's agenda is to defame those who are pl, imo, they had no interest in his topic....only in trying to label him as a racist."
Another lie, we do no such thing. Any defamation comes from the PLers themselves. The fact is that we DID address the topic, which was racist, and he agreed with that racist position.
There's no point in trying, Bitner. We who have reason have all tried, and those who don't understand reason or common sense continue to bury their heads in the sand and see things the way they want to see them.

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lalalulu wrote:
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Jackass,
We got on him because he was a PIG, talking about getting multiple women knocked up and such. This was REPEATEDLY indicated to you.
Are you drunk 75-80% of the time? Or are you just plain stupid?
I'll say it again-BS would agree with Satan himself if he told BS that he was 'pro-life' and agreed with everything that BS told him...

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Brilliant wrote:
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Is that fkn hilarious or what???
Richey boy was leading Detective Perp Lie Detector, around by the nose, while we "civilians" were calling him the freaking LIAR that he is.
LMAO!
Yup. And the drunken "detective" spouts that we were against "rick the dick" just because he was "pl"!! hahahaha...as if THAT is the governing criteria!

He thinks that just because that is HIS SOLE CRITERIA for respecting and agreeing with someone, that we operate the same way when it comes to DISagreeing with someone!

Can anyone say "profiling" !! As Bugs Bunny would say "what a MAROON"!!

LOL!!

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So, a womans right to end a pregnancy and a future human life is more important and holds a higher value then the life that would come from that pregnancy being allowed to continue?
That's wrong and no amount of spin you try to put on it will change that FACT!!
So; ur one of those people who would rather see a woman die by trying to abort herself than aborting what is nothing more than sperm?
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z3ncat wrote:
So, out of curiosity, while Mary here blathers on, does anyone mind me asking what their personal belief system is?
Atheist.

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Why don't we just cut off the genitals of every man who gets a woman pregnant against her will?

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marysaidyes2life wrote:
HIPPOLYTUS OF ROME (170-236 AD) "Women who were reputed to be believers began to take drugs ... to expel what was conceived, since they did not want to have a child. See then what great impiety that lawless one [Emperor Callistus] has fallen to, by teaching both adultery and murder at the same time."
The Early Church Fathers condemned the atrocity of abortion as child murder and excommunicated for life until on their death bed, those women and her accomplices in the brutal act. It is a historical fact, Canon Law 1398 was applied immediately and rigorously in the Early Church.
ATHENAGORAS OF ATHENS (ca. 177 AD) "What reason would we have to commit murder when we even say that women who induce abortions are murderers, and will have to give account of it to God? For the same person would not regard the fetus in the womb as a living thing and therefore an object of God's care, and at the same time slay it, once it had come to life." (A Plea Regarding Christians, chapter 35)
TERTULLIAN (ca. 223 AD) "We acknowledge, therefore, that life begins with conception, because we contend that the soul begins at conception. Life begins when the soul begins." “For us [Christians], murder is once and for all forbidden; so even the child in the womb, while yet the mother’s blood is still being drawn on to form the human being, it is not lawful for us to destroy. To forbid birth is only quicker murder ... He is a man, who is to be a man; the fruit is always present in the seed.”
~ Tertullian, 197, Apologeticus, page 9.
"They [John and Jesus] were both alive while still in the womb. Elizabeth rejoiced as the infant leaped in her womb; Mary glorifies the Lord because Christ within inspired her. Each mother recognizes her child and is known by her child who is alive, being not merely souls but also spirits." -De A ninta 26:4
SAINT CLEMENT OF ALEXANDRIA (223 AD) "Those who use abortifacients commit homicide."
“... if we would not **** off the human race born and developing according to God’s plan, then our whole lives would be lived according to nature. Women who make use of some sort of deadly abortion drug **** not only the embryo but, together with it, all human kindness.”
~ Clement of Alexandria, priest and the “Father of Theologians”(c. 150-220), Christ the Educator, Volume II, page 10.
Who do u think you are to try and force ur religion on others?!? You are even quoting scriptures from books that have NEVER been approved. You are a witch who lies about being "Christian". Nobody has to listen to you old hag. Much less to ur dirty old priests of whom most abuses children! This is a democracy, not a theocracy and you ain't mother thresa, old devil that she was. She's dead, thank GOD! Stick your 'superior' attitude where the sun don't shine...have a great day.
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Johnny13 wrote:
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You don't even know why this is funny.
And the love is totally conditional, or no one would be sent to you notion of hell.
LOL!

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Curious wrote:
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So, a womans right to end a pregnancy and a future human life is more important and holds a higher value then the life that would come from that pregnancy being allowed to continue?
That's wrong and no amount of spin you try to put on it will change that FACT!!
Wh0 died and make you GOD?!? Your arrogance will send you to hades one day. There is much scripture about that too. Even Satan can quote scriptures when it suits his purpose.

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z3ncat wrote:
So, out of curiosity, while Mary here blathers on, does anyone mind me asking what their personal belief system is?
I must have missed this earlier. I saw Brilliant respond to it.

I'm Wiccan.
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marysaidyes2life wrote:
<quoted text>Herein lies the problem, you fail to understand that God doesn't send anyone to hell. People Choose hell, over his unconditional love.
If the love is "unconditional", there would be no condition that would merit hell.

Perhaps you do not understand the word "unconditional".

It is either unconditional or it isn't. Can't have it both ways, unless you are brainwashed.
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Godless Heathen wrote:
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I missed that whole fiasco, but BS befriending Satan wouldn't surprise me, so long as Satan told him he was 'pro-life'...
EXACTLY!
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Johnny13 wrote:
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So you are saying that an evil person, now dead can say that they don't want to go to hell, having heard about the pain and lava, and they won't be sent? You don't seem to understand. Unconditional means without conditions. If you have to love god, that IS a condition. No one would 'choose' a hell of your description (and all the common ideas about it seem infantile to me, I can come up with much more clever hells). The whole deal is just the stick that goes with the carrot, and it crumbles when you give it further examination. You aren't even really thinking about what constitutes unconditional love. In your mythology, your god or your devil made this hell. An unconditionally loving god would never allow anyone it cared about to suffer for eternity, especially a basically good person whole real fault seems to be not worshiping hard enough (another condition). If I were the god you are talking about, I would have unmade hell before it even got started, my great love for humanity making the very idea intolerable, but I am a kinder person than your god apparently. Unconditional love is a pretty grand concept, and not even a dog is capable of it. What is surprising is that your notion of a loving god, is an immature character who can't love humanity as well as we love our own children. People are imperfect I grant you, but who among us would let our child, even a child who rejects us for whatever reason, burn for even a moment in a bonfire if we could stop it. The thought of any harm coming to my daughter makes me go weak in the knees. It is just crippling. How many people do you think your god lets burn for eternmity every day according to what you believe? I would not allow one.
Roughly 175000 people will die today, most of them are not christians, how many do you think are going to hell?
I love my child unconditionally. I love my grandgenius cutiepie, unconditionally. The idea of anything bad happening to them makes me physically ill, and tears come to my eyes. It makes me a fierce defender capable of ANYTHING to keep them from harm.

There is NOTHING that either of them could do, that would make me want them to roast in a fiery pit for all eternity.

NOTHING.

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BRILLIANT wrote:
<quoted text>Ummmm, Nope! STO is mine!
Here is the one that hooked me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Here is the one that reeled me in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
And ever since this one, there's been no turning back:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
But this one is the BEST EVER!
STO......
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
BRILLIANT wrote:
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HEY! I just posted music for a walk down memory lane........
STO????
Aww - gee, Chicky, that was sweet.

This is one of my favorite songs - perfect for right now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Zena Princess wrote:
Why don't we just cut off the genitals of every man who gets a woman pregnant against her will?
OH NO that would be violation of his civil right to reproduce.

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Zena Princess wrote:
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So; ur one of those people who would rather see a woman die by trying to abort herself than aborting what is nothing more than sperm?
I've long thought, and sadly seen and heard far too much that supports my belief, that there are some anti-choicers out there who are so warped that they honestly would rather see a woman come to harm trying to abort than offer her a safe legal alternative, out of their belief that any woman who would dare to even consider abortion deserves what she gets.
Fortunately, I've seen far more rational, level-headed people who disagree with abortion than I've seen these twisted individuals. Hell, I've seen some wonderfully compassionate people who disagree with abortion but don't disagree with giving women a choice. But it really disturbs - and scares - me that I've seen even ONE of the other type, let alone more than one.

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when others are oppressed.

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Big Sky wrote:
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Nope....and this has been 'clarified' several times....if you had a memory.
As I said, he apologized for offending people in using David Duke as his reference, when DD's racist issues were brought to his attention.
It was the racist issues that were offensive, DD being such and all the accusations that stemmed from his using DD as a reference.
The fact that he wasn't familiar with DD being a racist shows just how much racist material he's into.
The stuff he referenced is one of Duke's racist issue. You know who thinks Jewish doctors conspire to murder gentile babies? Racists do. He has been invited multiple times to find a single non racist source to back up his wild claims, and it has not been done. This is not Duke saying "oranges taste good!", which anyone can say (and be completely correct, oranges are wonderful), this is Duke saying "The Jews want to kill your kids" and Mary licking the spoon, and rushing back here to share with us.

For like the 20th time, it is more important that he has the racist belief, than that he did not know who Duke was. If I don't know who Hitler is, is it okay to think exterminating Jews is okay? Of course not. Stop pretending ignorance is an excuse for holding indecent beliefs.
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