“Isaiah 43:25 I am He who blots”

Since: Apr 11

out your transgressions

#369127 Mar 17, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> You might want to put more emphasis on wanting to be honest, to stop trying to prove yourself beautiful and actually become beautiful. What's on the outside counts for very little. There will come a day when outer beauty fades.
Try being a person other people can love. That's the way people will know whether Jesus loves you or not. You have to 'be' what you proclaim. You, so far, have not done that.
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YOU did. Remember this?
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And now you are repeating it:
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You’re just filled with self-praise, aren’t you?
I think you have traveled beyond the realm of narcissism, and are now entering the land of hubris.
I have to with all the cut down I get. If I don't I might fall into depression or worse. I can't depend on others to show me my self worth. So, I have to depend on God to show me. I should speak it to build myself up when I'm feeling down. That's how I deal with things sometimes. I see and know what the truth is. You all don't know me. I am sorry for sounding like I am full of myself. Quite the contrary, I have had low self esteem for too much of my life and I am learning to turn it around.
I hope this helps.

“Isaiah 43:25 I am He who blots”

Since: Apr 11

out your transgressions

#369128 Mar 17, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no misunderstandings about christianity.
Christianity is a blend of stolen mythology and outright lies. It's also drenched in about as much blood as is Islam.
This is yet another one of your "opinions"

“Isaiah 43:25 I am He who blots”

Since: Apr 11

out your transgressions

#369129 Mar 17, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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Oh, and by the way; I'm not running around like the fundies, screaming "YOU MUST BELIEVE WHAT I BELIEVE OR YOU'RE GOING TO HELLLLLLLLL!!"
Pagans don't look for recruits; we believe everyone must find their own path, and that there are many paths to the Divine.
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I was born to it, and I have no reason to change it.
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That's rather a personal question for a stranger such as you to be asking, but since we're all anonymous here, I'll answer:
It's called Stregheria. La Vecchia Religione de Stegheria. The "Old Ways," or the "Old Religion of (Italian) Witchcraft."
We see Nature as the Divine. We don't have a "bible" or a "rule book" or a "word of god" that's widely open to be interpreted however one wants to interpret it; our beliefs come from Nature Herself.
About the only rules we *do* have are:
1. Do No Harm.(Realizing the impracticality & impossibility of that, I look at it more as "Do as Little Harm as Possible.")
2. What goes around, comes around.
3. "All Acts of Love and Compassion are My Rituals." The Goddess, according to Aradia, a 14th century wise woman, teacher of the Craft, and who was considered by some to be an Avatar.
Someone back in my family line decided to adopt and adapt Aradia's teachings with the old Etruscan ways she was raised in, which resulted in my family's tradition.
Very interesting! thank you for sharing an honest answer to your beliefs and family line. i learned something new today. I appreciate that!

“Isaiah 43:25 I am He who blots”

Since: Apr 11

out your transgressions

#369130 Mar 17, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
You baited her on that. You claimed that you Know the Bible is untruthful. Aren't you pulling the same trick ?
They canl;t figure that out any more than you can figure out why I think the Bible (and other texts) are loaded with truths.
Do Aesop's fables contain truths? or do we call it a worthless pack of lies.
I hope you see what I am getting at.
Very good observation Duane. Thank you, I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing this.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#369131 Mar 17, 2012
chill out pls wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you and let me assure you I am much more than you realize. I am sorry that I haven't done a good job at portraying that here.
You still have every chance. That doesn't mean those who distrust you will immediately trust you, but when someone tries it's noticed by some of us.

“My Karma Killed Your Dogma”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#369132 Mar 17, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> Why not offer to have a discussion on her beliefs instead since she doesn't believe in the Christian mythos nor any of its attending support data?....

Kait has been the target of almost every Christian on Topix. She finally just started treating them with the disrespect they treated her. I know that feeling. I tried to be nice to everyone when I first came on Topix. I have lost all patience doing that.
Maybe just for today we can skip over the biting people's heads off. I don't know that I can, but I'm going to try not to call anyone an idiot today. It may be a small goal, but it's a goal.
chill out pls wrote:
<quoted text>Really? I have NEVER disrespected her(Kait) but yet she continues to disrespect me.
Oh, yeah?

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD...
chill out pls wrote:
<quoted text>Where have I been hateful and vile? You are thinking of your wolf witch friend.
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not the one who's hateful and vile, liar; WN was talking about your brother in christ, LS who wrote:
<quoted text>
That's where you were being deliberately decietful, if nothing else.

But I understand your need to lie.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#369133 Mar 17, 2012
chill out pls wrote:
<quoted text>Please tell me anything I have said that is the opposite.
I've pointed out to you when you were dishonest. I'm not the only one who has. Remarks like you made about 'maybe they're ashamed' of their religion is just so disrespectful it's not even calculable. But you act as though you don't know what anyone is talking about. If you are so incapable of understanding that, I may have been incorrect about you being smart enough to grasp other things.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#369134 Mar 17, 2012
chill out pls wrote:
<quoted text>If I may answer bcs more than likely you won't get an honest answer.....This poster is obviously a troll
Well, that's your answer.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#369135 Mar 17, 2012
chill out pls wrote:
<quoted text>If I may answer bcs more than likely you won't get an honest answer.....This poster is obviously a troll
And, I find it funny that many here see you as a troll while you are calling others trolls. That's high powered stuff right there.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#369136 Mar 17, 2012
chill out pls wrote:
<quoted text>But yet you claim I am deceptive, ridiculous, stupid, uneducated for what I believe to be true. Why is that?
This is just exactly what people have pointed out to you before...your dishonesty. I have never called you stupid for your religion. I have called you willfully ignorant. In other words, able to learn but unwilling.

You have made ridiculous posts here about things that were not in the bible. Remember the dragons and unicorns remark you made. Ridiculous comments are ridiculous comments.

You choose not to change your approach and continue to be dishonest. I think I for one have nothing else to say to you in the way of trying to make a path of common ground.

“My Karma Killed Your Dogma”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#369137 Mar 17, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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Then you should know that "truth" and "bible" are mutually exclusive.
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See what I mean, G_O_D?
Chill; belief is not knowledge. Belief is *belief.* Why can't christians figure that out?
G_O_D wrote:
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You baited her on that. You claimed that you Know the Bible is untruthful. Aren't you pulling the same trick ?
Nope. I've read the thing. But not with a desire to believe; I read it merely to see what was in it, and discovered for myself that it flat-out lies. When people *want* to believe, they stop thinking.
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>They canl;t figure that out any more than you can figure out why I think the Bible (and other texts) are loaded with truths.
Do Aesop's fables contain truths? or do we call it a worthless pack of lies.
Wellsir, Aesop's fables are not a self-contradictory book which is claimed by fervent followers to be the inerrant word of any god.
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>I hope you see what I am getting at.
Oh, absolutely; taken in its proper context, there's is some insight to be gained from it. But threats of damnation and eternal punishment for disbelief? I mean, come on! What kind of an all-knowing, all-powerful and all-compassionate god needs to demand fealty through threats of eternal immolation?

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#369138 Mar 17, 2012
chill out pls wrote:
<quoted text>They did and you weren't here at that time....OR WERE YOU???
I don't remember anyone calling you names over your miracles. I certainly did not.

You choose a place where people do not believe in deities and most who do not believe in miracles performed by a deity to tell your story. When people gave you alternatives to the your story, you got bent out of shape and started lying and telling people that we called you stupid over your miracle story. I personally said I don't question what other people see as a miracle because I have had some in my life also. But mine were not just thinking up a new business. One of them is documented in two medical journals. It is not documented as a miracle, but as an unexplained spontaneous healing.

You have whined and cried and lied ever since you've been here. You've tried to make trouble and take over this thread. It's not the first time, and I'm sure it won't be the last.

Now you can run over and tell all your 'new found' friends on other threads how badly you're being treated if you like. I'll be happy for them to come over and read every word that has been said to you since you arrived so they can see what a liar you are.

“My Karma Killed Your Dogma”

Since: May 10

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#369139 Mar 17, 2012
blind man n the bleachers wrote:
To everyone on this thread.
It was nice visiting with you. Take care till next time.
Ciao, bello! Until next time.

“My Karma Killed Your Dogma”

Since: May 10

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#369140 Mar 17, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
You baited her on that. You claimed that you Know the Bible is untruthful. Aren't you pulling the same trick ?
They canl;t figure that out any more than you can figure out why I think the Bible (and other texts) are loaded with truths.
Do Aesop's fables contain truths? or do we call it a worthless pack of lies.
I hope you see what I am getting at.
Goober Hull wrote:
<quoted text>I think you are full of hockey
Oh joy, look who showed up; Goober Hull, also known as God's favorite little punch line.

Since: Mar 12

Warren, OH

#369141 Mar 17, 2012
DearthOfCouth wrote:
Why should you care in the slightest about my religious views?
I cannot possibly imagine.
Several people on topix, though, in the wake of various postings I’ve made on religious subjects, have asked me for an explanation of just how I arrived at my present agnosticism, or atheism, or whatever it is. So rather than answering these various people individually I’ve elected to start this forum and direct the interested parties here.
What follows is nothing more or less than a summary of my personal experiences as a Christian, related about as honestly as I know how to do it. I’m not hoping for contributions, followers, or enlightenment, and I don’t claim it to be momentous or universal or significant to anyone but me. But it is genuine.
Dearth of Couth
Christians care about because Jesus taught us to love everyone and help everyone we can. Our only goal as Christians is to the do our best to live a Christian life and to share that with others.

You seem very agry at God.
Remember that you do not need to believe in God Heaven or Hell to go there.

If you are right and I am wrong who is worse off?
I am praying for you, God does love you and will forgive you

“My Karma Killed Your Dogma”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#369142 Mar 17, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
....Someone back in my family line decided to adopt and adapt Aradia's teachings with the old Etruscan ways she was raised in, which resulted in my family's tradition.
G_O_D wrote:
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So you believe in the folklore of Tuscany.
Interesting.
There's folklore, and then there's folklore. I understand that gods are creations of mankind. Gods are merely forces of Nature to which ancient people assigned human personalities in order to make it easier to identify with them, and even ask them for help.

My great-grandmother used to tell us stories about forest sprites and fairies, and like that; she believed in them, and claimed to have even seen some. But even when I was a kid, I thought if she really expects me to believe, I'd have to see them for myself.

Ain't seen 'em yet.

Yet on full moon nights, I'll light a fire and burn some incense, and raise a toast to Diana & Dionysus--and I'll ask their help for whatever problems I might be facing. Weird, huh?

However, I do not tell others they *must* believe as I do, as christians do, or they're going to be punished forever. If there isn't another person on the entire planet who doesn't share my beliefs & practices, that's fine by me. I don't need outside validation.

Ever dance naked under a full moon? It's fun!

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#369143 Mar 17, 2012
chill out pls wrote:
<quoted text>But yet you have bashed me several times stating I am deceptive for believing the God of the bible is real. You have stated several times that you know for a fact the God of the bible has been disproven. So, why now are you recanting that statement now?
This is another lie. He never told you that you were deceptive for 'believing he God of the Bible is real'. He told you that you were deceptive because you changed the meaning of his posts as you have done mine. I have called you dishonest for that very thing.

You want to blame it on people persecuting the poor little christian when in truth it has nothing to do with your religion, but your own dishonesty.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#369144 Mar 17, 2012
chill out pls wrote:
<quoted text>They said I was deceptive for believing. And they were miraculous. God made miracles happen in my life. So, you must be a poster who was around at the time of those postings under a different name now. Talk about being deceptive!
nobody said any such thing. Please put the post numbers here where anyone said you were deceptive for believing. It isn't there. You are a liar and nothing else.

You're right...talk about being deceptive..you are.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#369145 Mar 17, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
......
Wellsir, Aesop's fables are not a self-contradictory book which is claimed by fervent followers to be the inerrant word of any god.
.........
Do you KNOW how sexy you are?

“My Karma Killed Your Dogma”

Since: May 10

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#369146 Mar 17, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
...
1. Do No Harm.(Realizing the impracticality & impossibility of that, I look at it more as "Do as Little Harm as Possible.")
2. What goes around, comes around.
3. "All Acts of Love and Compassion are My Rituals." ....
G_O_D wrote:
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1. Go and sin no more.(as yours, impossible. do the best you can)
I don't believe in "sin," but I see your point.
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>2. As you judge so shall you be judge.
MmmnnnoooI don't think so. I'm thinking more along the lines of Karma, a concept that is older than Abraham. Karma isn't really "judgement," it's just cause and effect.
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>3. Love God and Love people, even your enemies. Upon this all the rituals and commandments hang.
I don't see any of the Ten Commandments as having anything to do with #3; they're nothing but a list of restrictions. "Thou shalt nots."
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>Seems you have a lot in common with Jesus. <smile>
Not really.

Jesus is based on older mythologies.

Adad and Marduk of Assyria, for example, who was considered “the Word”(Logos). That came waaaayyyy before jesus.

Adonis, Aesclepius, Apollo (who was resurrected at the vernal equinox as the lamb), Dionysus, Heracles (you know him as Hercules) and Zeus of Greece

Alcides or Thebes, divine redeemer born of a virgin around 1200BC

Attis ofPhrygia
Baal or Bel of Babylon/Phoenicia
Bali of Afghanistan
Beddru of Japan
Buddha and Krishna of India
Dumuzi of Sumeria
Fo-hi, Lau-Kiun, Tien, and Chan-Ti of China, whose birth was attended by heavenly music, angels and shepherds

Hermes of Egypt/Greece, who was born of the Virgin Maia and called “the Logos” because he was the Messenger or Words of the Heavenly Father, Zeus

Hesus of the Druids and Gauls
Horus, Osiris and Serapis of Egypt
Indra of Tibet/India
Ieo of China, who was “the great prophet, lawgiver and savior” with 70 disciples;

Issa/Isa of Arabia, who was born of the Virgin Mary and was the “Divine Word” of the ancient Arabian Nasara/Nazarenes around 400BCE

Jao of Nepal
Jupiter/Jove of Rome
Mithra of Persia/India
Prometheus of Caucasus/Greece
Quirinius of Rome
Salivahana of southern India, who was a “divine child, born of a virgin, and was the son of a carpenter,” himself also being called “the Carpenter,” and whose name or title means “cross-borne”(“Salvation”)

Tammuz of Syria, the savior god worshipped in Jerusalem
Wittoba of the Bilingonese/Telingonese
Zalmoxis of Thrace, the savior who “promised eternal life to guests at his sacramental Las Supper. Then he went into the underwold, and rose again on the third day”

Zarathustra/Zoroaster of Persia
Zoar of the Bonzes

There are lots of ancient stories of ancient godmen who sacrificed themselves for mankind. Mythology is full of them. Jesus is nothing special, just one more for the collection.

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