American Soldiers - Duty, Honor, Country

lovemenot wrote:

..... we even put a rollroce engine in your mustang plains .....

Don't forget the Harrier.

and

harrier yea thats was ours

and im english and dont speak german he could not get across that little bit of a warter in front of him to hard i think soft cock

Scrutiny wrote:

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Just because you found something listed doesn't make it so.
If you looked up the word Democracy, you would find we are not.
How did you vote on HR459?
How did you vote on the Patriot Act?
How did you weigh in on the Online Protection and Enforcement of Digital Trade Act?
Oh? You didn't vote on them?
Representative Democracy. You don't vote, your representatives do.
Even in presidential elections...you dont vote. Delegates do.
There is no law stating delegates must vote as the people they represent do.
NOT a democracy. Was never and will never be.

Nobody is saying we are a democracy. The Democracy Index is not a list of democracies, it is a list from top to bottom that shows in their view the level of democracy in each country.

Scrutiny wrote:

Look.
I am all up in arms against our foreign policy.
We lie to our own people to send our sons and daughters to war in some shythole halfway around the world for profit.
We commit acts in these places that are indescribable.
However, to question the capability of our military vs.(insert country) is laughable.
THE ENTIRE WORLD is pissed off at how we conduct our buisness. Which nation takes a stand against us?
NONE!
We march all over the Earth taking anything and everything we want.
Barring the occasional "we object" heard by the UN. You wont find anyone stepping up to the U.S.
Simply put, it is suicide. Don't you think someone would have tried to stop us?
The Soviet machine...nope.
Mighty China...not a chance.
Japan...nay.

You seem new to the conversation and I have found that most people who think we travel the globe willy-nilly looking for countries to invade don’t even know why we were attacked on 9-11. Do you?

Iraq still has its oil along with billions of US dollars. If you were going to play European and invade a country to steal its wealth, Afghanistan would be one of the last places you’d choose.

lovemenot wrote:

still just admitt it ur weak. we dont wait for wars to b into years gone then say oooo yea theres a war on . dumb . you voted hitler man of the year remember life mag . we even put a rollroce engine in your mustang plains .just to slowwwww . like a yank. how hong kong these day . we held that for a long time . you guys were to scared and f off

Here, argue with this. It is written in English so you might not understand it.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/

SINCE 1942 the british air force . Was useing a bomber with performance and combat achievments far [superior to the americans]. the day and night bombers was the mosquito' A bomber designed to survive by using SUPEROIR speed and agility to avoid being intercepted. instead of carring gun turrets and gunners to fire back at enemy interceptors. it also truly capable of presision bombing. unlike all heavy bombers. which were very inaccurate and therefore relatively ineffective.

WHAT MISTAKES DID THE U S A DID WW2 [1] EXTREMELY FAULTY U S TORPEDOES [2] EXTREMELY UNDER ESTIMATING OF THE ENENY TANKS [ ARMOR] [3] THE U S WAS SLOW TO ADOPT MANY british anti sub practices or relook ww1 lessons. [4] in the pacific the us failed to know that japanese had evecuated the aleutian island of kiska in july . before it launched its unnecessary landings in august 1943

lovemenot wrote:

still just admitt it ur weak. we dont wait for wars to b into years gone then say oooo yea theres a war on . dumb . you voted hitler man of the year remember life mag . we even put a rollroce engine in your mustang plains .just to slowwwww . like a yank. how hong kong these day . we held that for a long time . you guys were to scared and f off

First of all you had no reason to declare war on Germany in the First World War. You had no alliance with France, Russia or Serbia. You thought it would be a short war and you could take some German colonies for participating. It turned out to be a long and bloody stalemate even with your entire Empire being forced to fight for you.

In the US at the time there were more people of German ancestry than any other group so there was some sympathy for Germany. Once we started hearing reports of how the Germans treated the people of Belgium there was a degree of outrage. When Germany began unrestricted submarine warfare and sank the Lusitania the US threaten war if they didn’t stop. Germany initially stopped, but when it returned to that policy later, the US declared war.

When the war was over, in typical European fashion, you took everything you could from the Germans and the Ottomans. Your terms for peace were so harsh and unfair you made another war inevitable. We, on the other hand, became disgusted with your tactics, declared victory and went home. Of course 20 years later you Europeans were at it again. Did you really expect us to come running to help you again?

We became independent of you over 200 years ago. We don’t come when you whistle like the rest of your subjects. It is not our responsibility to bail you out and we certainly don’t need you to bail us out. However we will talk to Argentina for you and make sure they leave the Falklands alone if you’d like.

Well Davey Boy, we're still waiting for an explanation on your ignorance.

HITLER wanted to invade the U K .but also had great respect for the british. In fact he regarded the british as of the same race. As the germans saxons; or part of the aryan races, his wish had always been that germany and britain. would join hands and deal with yhe main enemy stalin in russia

hows NAM these days , what a f u c k up that was . how many dead mmmmm dumb ass not so good on your own . at least the falklands is ours . and always will b .we didnt need you .you would prob ff u c k it up .

lovemenot wrote:

hows NAM these days , what a f u c k up that was . how many dead mmmmm dumb ass not so good on your own . at least the falklands is ours . and always will b .we didnt need you .you would prob ff u c k it up .

You are talking to the wrong guy about Vietnam. I will not defend what we did in 1975. Turning our backs on the South Vietnamese after we got them into a major war was the most cowardly act in American History and I pray to God we never repeat it.

he carnt anser you about his ignorance. hes got no brains . weak sukkling on hes mothers brest

you mean u ff uu cc kk ed up nam yes that was a great victory for you guys . we brits told you it was hopeless but no you went .

lovemenot wrote:

you mean u ff uu cc kk ed up nam yes that was a great victory for you guys . we brits told you it was hopeless but no you went .

Had we bombed those soviet made tanks heading down Highway 1 or even resupplied the South Vietnamese as we had promised we would, there would still be a South Vietnam just as there is still a South Korea.
We have never viewed people’s freedom as a hopeless cause.

Annie Muk wrote:

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No, untill recently we were NUMBER 1 and if it were up to me we'd still be there.
Funny though, you call my country "commie" yet we are still up at number 4 while the United Snakes is around 25th. Perhaps you should try "communism" yourself to improve your DEMOCRATIC status.
Is there any American who understands what "democracy" means, Davey Boy? I don't think so. You certainly don't.
American "Duty, Honor, Country" is an allegiance to an American, Fascist regime. While it is true that Obama is making miniscule improvements to bring the United Snakes closer to Democratic principles, it'll take much, much more effort to erase the Reagan-Bush, Fascist legacy. Don't you think so too?

I have never called Sweden a communist country. I merely said if it was up to YOU (as a communist) Sweden would be communist and would be wallowing down in the 100s with the rest of the totalitarian states.

Unlike you I don’t fantasize about the “evil” intent of the US. I disagree with you about communism, about the reasons for Iraq, about our role in the world. I understand our foreign policy and agree with most of it.

You don’t like us and I couldn’t care less. The reason I answer your posts is simply to give the other side of the story.

Dave C wrote:

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You seem new to the conversation and I have found that most people who think we travel the globe willy-nilly looking for countries to invade don’t even know why we were attacked on 9-11. Do you?
Iraq still has its oil along with billions of US dollars. If you were going to play European and invade a country to steal its wealth, Afghanistan would be one of the last places you’d choose.

I can tell you with absolute certainty it wasn't because a bunch of Saudi's with boxcutters hated us for our freedoms. You may object to my "tin foil hat" however, I think it looks sexy.

I am big on science and NOTHING anyone says will EVER make me believe that steel frame skyscrapers descend at FREE-FALL speed due to scattered fire. If the towers collapsed from the "pancake theory" there would have been a giant spire of steel protruding from the ground.(The center supports of the building)

NORAD going from 67-0 ('00-'01) to failing 4 times in one day.(the ONLY time they were actually needed) is very cute as well.

Failure to report
Failure to scramble
Failure to intercept
Failure to redeploy

Building seven is the smoking gun. Seven was a lie. So was the rest. Far from the first time America has lied to go to war. Gulf of Tonkin is my first but not only example.

No, we don't travel willy-nilly we are VERY selective. Afghanistan doesn't have the wealth you are correct, but it has the most important thing going in real estate. Location, location, location!

The Caspian Sea shelf is considered one of the largest sources of petroleum outside the Persian Gulf and Russia. Whether it's Unocal's pipeline project, or some other elaborate scheme cooked up by the Carlyle Group makes no matter. Afghanistan has the misfortune to lie between the last big oil reserve on the planet (Turkmenistan) and the sea.

In the words of the ex-vice president of the United States, Dick Cheney, "I cannot think of a time when we have had a region emerge as suddenly to become as strategically significant as the Caspian". That was in 1998, when Cheney was in the oil business not in government. In the mid 90ies there were efforts on the part of American energy corporations, most notably Unocal, to build oil and gas pipelines through Afghanistan to feed the South Asian market. These efforts were supposedly given up, either because of instability in Afghanistan (if we can believe Unocal) or because of a campaign against their negotiations with the Taliban regime (if we can believe Unocal's opponents).

Either that, or we spent billions to eliminate some camps that can be reconstructed for 50 grand anywhere in the world.

We attacked Afghanistan for the same reason we attacked Iraq. Profit.

I am going to assume you take a different stance.
Rather than just labeling me insane, I would like to hear what you think as well. Exchange of ideas. Thats why we are here, correct?
Thanks in advance.