Prove there's a god.

YELLODOG wrote:

<quoted text>
how much evidence would it take to satisfy you?
Philo
Josephus
The Talmud
Melito, Bishop of Sardis
Mishnah
clement of Rome
Hippolytus
Eusebius
Irenaeus
Ignatius
Tactius
Elgin Moyer
PolycarpT
Tatian
Emperor Trajan
Pliny
Lucian
there are more.
but there is MUCH evidences OUTSIDE the Holy bible that collaborate it as authentic
not to mention the many scrolls discovered that lay testimony to the same exact information as in the scriptures.

"god" "him"self would have to show up and convince me personally. Nothing less will suffice. All of your alleged "evidence" requires faith, and as such, is disregarded.

YELLODOG wrote:

<quoted text>
you reject it then NOT because of lack of evidence
because there is MUCH evidence...
you reject it simply out of UNwillingness to acknowlege it.

Your evidence requires FAITH ans as such, is inadmissible.

YELLODOG wrote:

<quoted text>
allow me to show you why it is YOU who are deceived.
6 ways your evolution has failed the test.

Sorry, don't think so. You are the one who has CHOSEN to base their life on mythology. You have nothing but a MYTH. Pure and simple.

melevy wrote:

<quoted text>"god" "him"self would have to show up and convince me personally. Nothing less will suffice. All of your alleged "evidence" requires faith, and as such, is disregarded.

I would be more easily convinced, but again the evidence offered is woefully inadequate. None of the authors presented knew christ personally and most were writing at least a full generation after the crucifixion, total hearsay. There is also no collaborating evidence the Exodus ever happened.

YELLODOG wrote:

<quoted text>
JUST WONDERING...the picture on your icon, what is it?
i can't figure out if its a demon, or a gay person, or what it is.
perhaps you can clarify for me.

You gotta put everything in a previously defined pigeon hole don't you?

It's an Ooogah! He's a real Boogah!!

YELLODOG wrote:

<quoted text>
there is no 'rant' i am merely providing you with
facts. its you who has a problem with acknowledging evidences
and did you not try to say folks were "BORN" athiest?
my point was no your not. you choose to either believe or not believe. its a choice.

I was born an atheist and remained so. My parents did not force feed me religion as yours obviously did. I attended religious school and decided then that it (religion) was a load of illogical bullshit. I have yet to see a reason to think otherwise, and your rants certainly do nothing to change that. In fact. if it were possible, with every post you'd push me further toward atheism. You are a perfect example of everything that's wrong with religion.

YELLODOG wrote:

<quoted text>
there is no 'rant' i am merely providing you with
facts. its you who has a problem with acknowledging evidences
and did you not try to say folks were "BORN" athiest?
my point was no your not. you choose to either believe or not believe. its a choice.

1. Go back to my post and re-read. Neither the word not the concept of "born" anything is conveyed.

2. One does NOT choose to disbelieve something for which there is no evidence - only a believer would offer that sort of non-logic. Did you make a conscious decision to disbelieve in King Kong? I trust not. No, if no god is foisted on you as a child then by about age 8 you begin to question the rationality of believers. My own children are testament to that.

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

<quoted text>
You didn't like the question because you don't have a good answer so you choose to find an excuse to be "offended".... very typical.

I'm not offended- I was trying to offer humor. It didn't occur to me that your question was sincere. Since you weren't being sarcastic, I'll answer your question.

This was your question:
And how do you KNOW that?'cause mummy and dada told you so?

For the purpose of offering some intelligent discourse, I will presume that you refer to your mother as mummy, and your father as dada. Assuming that we are speaking of my parents, they are irreligious people, and aren't at all responsible for my spiritual beliefs.

mdckmn wrote:

<quoted text> I'm not offended- I was trying to offer humor. It didn't occur to me that your question was sincere. Since you weren't being sarcastic, I'll answer your question.
This was your question:
And how do you KNOW that?'cause mummy and dada told you so?
For the purpose of offering some intelligent discourse, I will presume that you refer to your mother as mummy, and your father as dada. Assuming that we are speaking of my parents, they are irreligious people, and aren't at all responsible for my spiritual beliefs.

And still you did not answer the question. How do you KNOW that? You merely responded to the proposed answer.

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

<quoted text>
And still you did not answer the question. How do you KNOW that? You merely responded to the proposed answer.

Is the question how do I know that I am in good shape?

mdckmn wrote:

<quoted text> Is the question how do I know that I am in good shape?

Yup!

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

<quoted text>
Yup!

Because I have a relationship with God.

mdckmn wrote:

<quoted text> Because I have a relationship with God.

Which one? http://www.godchecker.com

And how do you know it is the right one?

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

<quoted text>
Which one? http://www.godchecker.com
And how do you know it is the right one?

Because He is the One Who is speaking to me.

mdckmn wrote:

Because He is the One Who is speaking to me.

You are clearly deluded and need medication.

The Bible God doesn't exist and Jesus is long dead if he ever existed.

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

<quoted text>
You are clearly deluded and need medication.
The Bible God doesn't exist and Jesus is long dead if he ever existed.

Well, we're each entitled to our own opinion. Never the less, don't be concerned for me, I have much to be thankful for.

mdckmn wrote:

Well, we're each entitled to our own opinion. Never the less, don't be concerned for me, I have much to be thankful for.

A happy and contented heart is a true blessing, without regard to who you are or what you believe.

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

<quoted text>
A happy and contented heart is a true blessing, without regard to who you are or what you believe.

Indeed. Careful with using the term blessing-someone may mistake you for a believer. Be well my friend, I really enjoyed our discourse.

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

<quoted text>
You are clearly deluded and need medication.
The Bible God doesn't exist and Jesus is long dead if he ever existed.

May as well do this one more time:

Is your "truth" any more real than my "truth"?

Where did your "truth" come from? Man?

Where did my "truth" come from? God, through His Spirit.

How do you know your "truth" is true? You must rely on the accounts of man, who is imperfect and flawed and sinful and untrue.

How do i know my "truth" is true? i have received Him, and it comes not from the beliefs of man, but from the Living Word of The Creator.

SPIRITUAL FAITH vs. MANS FACTS:

Man has erred since the beginning of time, and will not be perfected until changed from the body of flesh to the spiritual body.

FAITH is to hold on to The One this is perfect, The Master of our design. We do this with confidence and conviction, as it is not from a man-made source, but a direct connection from God The Creator Himself.

We need no middle-man or no mortal to be one with The Spirit. There is no need to rely on imperfection.

Mans "FACTS" have as much value to an Eternal Future as the shifting sands of time.

GOD is timeless, and by offering us the gift of love through Jesus Christ, no questions man can possibly answer remain.

The ways of the world are NOT the ways of God ...

Not Of This World Forever wrote:

May as well do this one more time:
Is your "truth" any more real than my "truth"?
Where did your "truth" come from? Man?
Where did my "truth" come from? God, through His Spirit.
How do you know your "truth" is true? You must rely on the accounts of man, who is imperfect and flawed and sinful and untrue.
How do i know my "truth" is true? i have received Him, and it comes not from the beliefs of man, but from the Living Word of The Creator.
SPIRITUAL FAITH vs. MANS FACTS:
Man has erred since the beginning of time, and will not be perfected until changed from the body of flesh to the spiritual body.
FAITH is to hold on to The One this is perfect, The Master of our design. We do this with confidence and conviction, as it is not from a man-made source, but a direct connection from God The Creator Himself.
We need no middle-man or no mortal to be one with The Spirit. There is no need to rely on imperfection.
Mans "FACTS" have as much value to an Eternal Future as the shifting sands of time.
GOD is timeless, and by offering us the gift of love through Jesus Christ, no questions man can possibly answer remain.
The ways of the world are NOT the ways of God ...

Any truth that is not accompanied by verifiable supporting evidence is at best faith. There is no truth in faith.

Most religious folk read scriptures written by men they know are flawed but they still insist it is the inerrant word of God. This is delusion at best.

If you can not produce verifiable supporting evidence of your "connection with God" then it too is a delusion at best.

If you were sincere in your believe that you have a "direct connection with God the Creator himself." you would not hesitate to offer verifiable proof of this connection. You did not. This leads me to believe you are yet another Christian liar.

Why do Christians lie so much? Why would anyone want a religion based on lies?