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Unfortunately, you are not knowledgeable about what homosexuality really is. Yes, in most cases, we are born male or female, but there are exceptions to that also, with a person born with both sex parts, and their actual sex is not obvious, though checking the X and Y chromosomes might disclose what they are genetically.
Homosexuality is however a trait that one is born with, and except in forced cases where a person performs homosexual acts against their own desires, the person is oriented, when sexually mature, to want sex with their same sex.
Because sex, especially in a man, requires desire and arousal to even be possible, one does not choose to want homosexual acts if they are not aroused by someone of the same sex.
However, even if all that is bogus, there still is no legitimate reason to persecute or discriminate against a recognizable minority of our population, who are of no danger to anyone besides themselves and their willing partner, just because some people have an aversion to gays.
As far as moral compass, I would hardly ever say that the USA, looking at its history, even in my lifetime, has a very respectable moral compass, nor has it ever. That is not comparing it with other countries, but rather just comparing it to what a good moral compass would look like.
Your opinion of America is lacking. You don't know what you're talking about. American is freedom. We have many freedoms that many other countries are not as fortunate to have.

As the melting pot of many races and religions, we are responsible for keeping the opportunities available that were promised by our forefathers when they founded this country: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. America was built on multiple cultural backgrounds fleeing persecution, poverty and lives without simple freedoms.

America is:

∑ Independence

∑ Hard work

∑ Inventiveness

∑ Personal ambition

∑ Risk-taking

∑ Commitment

∑ Skepticism

∑ Honesty

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Reality wrote:
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You are a stone cold idiot. Had you ever actually received any formal training on the use of a hand gun then you would fully under stand that you never shoot,to wound. If you got the balls ( you don't) to pull, cock, level and aim a loaded weapon on a person, you had better have the balls to use it as intended. That is to take that persons life.
No, it isn't. A gun is for defense. In most cases the trigger doesn't even need to be pulled.....

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Orange County blues wrote:
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And I am NOT the one trying to force religion or anything else down the throats of others- that would be YOU- just as that was also another "good" Christian- ADOLF HITLER.
You think Hitler was "good"??????????

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Orange County blues wrote:
I really have to wonder why the only people here trying to convince others that there is a god are so-called "Christians".
After all, with over 500,000 posts on a thread that's been going for over 4 years now, it's interesting that out of all these posts I've yet to see even ONE post from a Jewish person, a Buddhist, a Hindu, those who practice Shinto, Islamist, or any other religion claiming that THEIR beliefs are the right ones and that anyone who believes differently is wrong, is going to be sorry for believing differently, etc.
I really am quite puzzled as to why the so-called Christians on this thread are SO insecure that they all have to clamor, rage and rant about their beliefs and all the more since not ONE of them has yet to provide any actual PROOF of the existence of ANY god.
While I realize the mere mortal men who wrote the bible wanted to insure that the masses stay as ignorant and as fearful as possible, I didn't think they also intended for people to be as insecure as the so-called Christians on this thread portray themselves to be.
I really am quite puzzled as to why the so-called Atheists on this thread are SO insecure that they all have to clamor, rage and rant about their beliefs and all the more since not ONE of them has yet to provide any actual PROOF of the non-existence of ANY god.

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Orange County blues wrote:
<quoted text>And THAT is where you are wrong. Sorry, bub, but your narcissism and misplaced sense of importance doesn't carry over onto ME.
I am VERY well aware that not only is it NOT all about ME, very little is all about ME.
Don't forget- one of my mantras is:
ONE PEOPLE, ONE PLANET
No- what is amazing is using a book that hasn't been proven to be fact to back up your claim that the existence of a god is fact.
That is no difference than using "Twas The Night Before Christmas" as my "proof" that Santa Claus exists.
That your very young and sophomoric mind doesn't see that as a very apt comparison- well, that IS all YOU.
What is weak-minded is not realizing that you can't use what hasn't been proven to be fact as proof of something else that hasn't been proven to be fact.
Ok, I see even more clearly how blinded you are. You can't see past your smug little nose to imagine a bigger picture. If you can't, you'll never have proof of God.

Or what do you Deist's call God, "the Supreme Architect"?? Same thing.

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Orange County blues wrote:
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To the MORON who disagrees that it's NOT illegal to keep a loaded gun in your car in Florida:
"Vehicle carry without a license is allowed, but only when concealed from view and when the firearm is either "securely encased" or not immediately available for use. "Securely encased" means in a glove compartment, whether or not locked; snapped in a holster; in a gun case, whether or not locked; in a zippered gun case; or in a closed box or container which requires a lid or cover to be opened for access.[2] Vehicle carry on one's person inside a vehicle without a license is not allowed.
Once a firearm is securely encased, it can be stored anywhere inside the vehicle and is not limited to just the glove compartment/center console.
Additionally, there is no prohibition of a firearm being loaded at any time."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Flor...
There ya go, MORON judge.
Carry a loaded gun in my truck?? Damn, I'm moving to Florida!!!

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Orange County blues wrote:
<quoted text>Wow- what a word twister you are.
My quotes around the word "good" (followed by the word Christian) should have clued you in to what I was saying.
Like YOU, Hitler was yet another "good" Christian.
Got it now?
What makes you think Hitler was a "good" Christian??

You know a little about what he did, right?

Whether or not he was Christian, he didn't act like one.

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Orange County blues wrote:
<quoted text>You still don't get that a negative can NOT be proven, huh?
Surprise, surprise.....NOT.
No, I don't get it. God is not a negative, why do you people try that play-on words to back yourselves up?

God is real. Always has been. Always will be. It is YOUR burden to prove (to yourself) otherwise.

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Orange County blues wrote:
<quoted text>HITLER was no less of a "good" Christian than YOU are.
Hitler went on and on and on about how he was doing the work of the same god and the same Jesus that YOU believe in.
Not sure why you're attempting to shoot (and malign) the messenger other than to (needlessly) prove yet again what a duplicitous cretin you are.....
Here ya go, bitch. From Wikipedia:

"Some recent works have asserted that he was in no way an orthodox Christian or an atheist, and may have been a deist."

SUCK THAT

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Orange County blues wrote:
<quoted text>HITLER was no less of a "good" Christian than YOU are.
Hitler went on and on and on about how he was doing the work of the same god and the same Jesus that YOU believe in.
Not sure why you're attempting to shoot (and malign) the messenger other than to (needlessly) prove yet again what a duplicitous cretin you are.....
More from Wikipedia:

"Something of Hitler's religious beliefs can be gathered from his public and private statements, however they present a conflicting picture of a man who appears spiritual and yet against organized religion."

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Don't Deists believe in not having "organized religion"?

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Orange County blues wrote:
<quoted text>HITLER was no less of a "good" Christian than YOU are.
Hitler went on and on and on about how he was doing the work of the same god and the same Jesus that YOU believe in.
Not sure why you're attempting to shoot (and malign) the messenger other than to (needlessly) prove yet again what a duplicitous cretin you are.....
More Hitler "good Christian" for you...

Albert Speer quotes Hitler stating, "You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"

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Hitler's intimate, Joseph Goebbels said that it is his opinion that Hitler was "deeply religious but entirely anti-Christian."

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Orange County blues wrote:
<quoted text>You STILL don't get the meaning of the quotation marks- HILARIOUS!!!
And whether or not YOU are a Christian, you don't ACT like one.
And I know MUCH more than a little about what he did, you DWEEB.
And I know MUCH more about MOST things than you do, you DWEEB.
Actually, I have NO doubt I have FORGOTTEN MUCH more than YOU have ever learned.
And I've yet to see one so-called Christian on this thread who acts like what is actually a GOOD Christian.
You fancy yourselves to be "good" Christians just as ADOLF HITLER fancied HIMSELF to be a "good" Christian.
You no more know the meaning of the religion you profess to believe in and live by than Adolf Hitler did.
Do you GET it YET?????
Take a gun, lube it up & SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS!!! STOP COMPARING ME TO HITLER YOU BITCH!

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You think Hitler was "good"??????????
He was a christian as was Stalin, as are Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic, as is the IRA, the KKK, the NLFT, as is Anders Behring Breivik and James Holmes.

All good christians to a murdering man

That does not mean that they are good human beings

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Orange County blues wrote:
<quoted text>YOU are doing a play on words- not ME!!!
I didn't SAY god was a negative- what is WRONG with you???
You asked for proof that god does NOT exist.
What does NOT exist can NOT be proven to NOT exist- why is this SO hard for you to comprehend???
AGAIN- and for the UMPTEENTH time:
Why don't we try to prove that any or all of the following do NOT exist:
Santa Claus
The Tooth Fairy
Leprechauns
Unicorns (pink or any other color)
Little green Martians (or big green Martians for that matter)
Go ahead- PROVE to me that any or all of the above do NOT exist.
You CAN'T. I CAN'T. NO ONE can.
So why are you asking the totally inane question for proof that a god does NOT exist?
It is only what IS that can be proven to exist- a negative- meaning proving that something does NOT exist- is a fallacious argument with no basis in logic or reason.
Then prove your opinion that God is as make belive as Mother Goose...

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Orange County blues wrote:
<quoted text>Oh my......your BP has simply GOT to be off the charts, but you said the other day that you don't think you could get a BP reading anyway, which makes NO sense unless ICE WATER is running through your veins instead of BLOOD, which also seems to have been the case with your fellow "good" Christian- ADOLF HITLER.
If you don't think Hitler was a Christian, perhaps you will see otherwise based on the following:
To deny the influence of Christianity on Hitler and its role in World War II, means that you must ignore history and forever bar yourself from understanding the source of German anti-Semitism and how the WWII atrocities occurred.
By using historical evidence of Hitler's and his henchmen's own words, this section aims to show how mixing religion with politics can cause conflicts, not only against religion but against government and its people. This site, in no way, condones Nazism, Neo-Nazism, fascist governments, or anti-Semitism, but instead, warns against them.
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)
We demand liberty for all religious denominations in the State, so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the morality and moral sense of the German race. The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession. It combats the Jewish-materialist spirit within and without us, and is convinced that our nation can achieve permanent health from within only on the principle: the common interest before self-interest.
Hitler not only believed in Jesus (which alone made him a Christian) but his work against the Jews came straight from Christian theological reasoning just as had many Christian saints of the past. His Christian expressions of "Lord God," "Living Christ," and "Lord and Savior" indicates his acknowledgement of Jesus as God and his acceptance of a resurrected Christ (for what else can "Living" and "Savior" mean except from a resurrected state?). Hitler also believed in the supernatural concept of life after death. In Mein Kampf he wrote, "a religion in the Aryan sense cannot be imagined which lacks the conviction of survival after death in some form."
http://www.nobeliefs.com/hitlerchristian.htm
Want more?
I'm just giving you the FACTS- I am just the messenger of those FACTS- so why are you trying to "shoot" me with your big bad gun?
You dumb ass, I said I can't get a proper BP reading of myself from 20 YEARS ago...

It's well known that Hitler was only publicly Christian and privately not Christian.

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Orange County blues wrote:
<quoted text>Seriously, do Christians such as Riverside really think that there are no lunatics, criminals or psychopaths who are or were Christian?
Mind boggling!
Of course I don't think that. They're plenty of religious loons out there.

Hitler was only publicly Christian. You quoted a speech he did, which he professed his love for Jesus. But in private, he hated the "weak" Chritians and their "weak" rules.

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Orange County blues wrote:
<quoted text>See what I mean? Such sentiments are not at all reflective of the TRUE meaning of Christianity or of being a Christian.
Just like HITLER'S sentiments were not at all reflective of the TRUE meaning of Christianity or of being a Christian.
So take YOUR gun (which you already own) lube it up (or not based on your personal preference) and shove it up YOUR ass, for it is YOU who is WILLINGLY sounding like the same type of Christian that HITLER was.
Ugh you're so impossible...

You're mean, calious, vicious, egocentric, argumentative, wicked , malicious, evil, perverse, etc, etc.

You ASSume that a Christian wouldn't pissed off when called "the same as Hitler". You're wrong.

I apologize for calling you names, please stop referring me to that sick peice os shit, hitler.

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<quoted text>HUH???? A proper BP reading of yourself from 20 YEARS ago....WTF does THAT mean?
That means what I said yesterday, you don't read posts... If you did, you would understand. Try reading my entite post BEFORE ignorantly responding.

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<quoted text>Now why would I do that when I happen to BELIEVE in a god?
The difference is that unlike you and most of the other religinuts here, I am not so STUPID as to present what I can't prove as if it is FACT.
My BELIEF is enough for me and so much so, that I need not even prove it to be FACT to MYSELF- let alone to you or anyone else.
I am SECURE in my belief- don't project YOUR insecurity in YOUR beliefs onto me or anyone else.
Yesterday you said you KNOW god exists and you related a personal experience as to why you say you KNOW god exists.
If that is proof enough for YOU, good for YOU, but where do you get off to have the incredible ARROGANCE in thinking that what stands as proof for YOU simply MUST stand as proof for everyone or anyone else?
Yes, I said that I KNOW God exists. I know. Me. Myself.

Not YOU.

ME.

Not everyone.

ME.

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ChristineM wrote:
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He was a christian as was Stalin, as are Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic, as is the IRA, the KKK, the NLFT, as is Anders Behring Breivik and James Holmes.
All good christians to a murdering man
That does not mean that they are good human beings
Hitler was only publicly Christian - to put on a "good show", which is still the norm for public figures.

Doesn't Obama claim to be Christian ad well?

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