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Strange truths in the Bible: eternal life, literally "don't know what they do," somewhat and probably "eternal hell fire," god is everywhere.

Earth being an illusion under puppet control is the reason for the coincidences.

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Jun 11, 2012
 
eternalrock wrote:
Strange truths in the Bible: eternal life, literally "don't know what they do," somewhat and probably "eternal hell fire," god is everywhere.
Earth being an illusion under puppet control is the reason for the coincidences.
You've been doing 'shrooms again, huh?

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hahhahahahahahahahah I was @ Download 2012 and saw Metallica, Soundgarden, Black Sabbath, Opeth, Nightwish, Megadeth, Anthrax etc.

U jly pplz?

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Dave Nelson wrote:
A little dose of reality for our evolutionary atheist friends on here.
They like to think they will have their shit together and pass on into nothingness, all in one fell swoop.
Let's forget deities. Let's do science.
You have heard of the different levels of the brain. Human, mammalian, and reptilian. Various levels of organization that make the whole, with different support requirements, blood, oxygen, neural connections to other portions, etc.
Your higher human brain is dependent on the whole. Damage the others and it gets affected. That human brain is you as you know you. All of that education and life discipline that transcended instinct and basic reaction.
It is the first thing to go when the real shutdown starts. Evolution dictates resources will go to the more autonomic functions. The repair process created by evolution takes precedence over your "intellect". Your "thinking" will very quickly downshift. A process has to occur. You will go from your self assured intellectual atheist that had so much fun on Topix to a very scared rabbit in no time. Moments. Your best laid plans will fall flat due to the nature of material construction.
There is not a damned thing you can do about it. If you are strictly a material entity, you will go out screaming inside.
As I said before. Evolution has absolutely no reason to make your exit comfortable for you.
There very well could have been an evolutionary advantage. Or at least an evolutionary advantage that resulted from a human brain that, for whatever reason exhibited calmness and a retreat as death approached, as opposed to a body thrashing about in violent death throes as it sunk ever deeper towards that death. I could see where a human, severely injured and close to a death like state, motionless and calm would draw less attention from predators. I could see where a human, severely injured and close to a death like state, motionless and calm would be less likely to worsen severe injuries already sustained.

Maybe it was simply a natural attrition of those early humans who did not have that subconscious that remained calm and soothing as death approached, retreating into a blissful area. Maybe that is what is a component of and unique about our consciousness. We have a very deep capacity for visualization and ability of empathy for others and ourselves.

Those that didn't have that never passed that trait on. The balance tipped each time one became injured and flopped around like a fish out of water were at risk of predation and further self inflicted injuries. Dying.

Those that remained immobile and calm, with only that last shudder as the mind finally lets go and you die, which doesn't always happen were able to avoid predation, and/or, avoided inflicting more injury to themselves and were found and taken care of by their fellow humans. Living.

Those "floppy" and "near death panic" individuals weed themselves out over time.

That's all it takes is the minute advantage, no matter how insignificant it may seem.

What I suggested might be the reason for that "ease" into death. You might insist it's not that, I only suggest it may be that, and neither can prove it, however it could be an alternative to the "other realm of existence", you assert.

It's certainly less complicated and problematic since many NDE's tend to be culturally influenced, they vary in certain and distinct ways from person to person, and just on the surface you wouldn't think your death would be any different>>>on the "other side", than a Hindu, Polynesian sun worshiper, or whatever culture a person happens to originate from. It doesn't seem logical that the "other wordly" end point would vary much at all if that was indeed a reality. Some have them, other don't, some vary widely.

What's the explanation for that?

Occam's Razor, eh? I dunno, from my point of view, evolution resulting from attrition seems more probable than what you suggest.
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Explain magic to me ,is it real?

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Jun 11, 2012
 
Big_Poppa_ wrote:
hahhahahahahahahahah I was @ Download 2012 and saw Metallica, Soundgarden, Black Sabbath, Opeth, Nightwish, Megadeth, Anthrax etc.
U jly pplz?
This made much more sense before you typed it, huh?

Just nod.

It'll go better for you that way.

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Jun 11, 2012
 
Salis wrote:
Explain magic to me ,is it real?
No.

It's magic.

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Jun 11, 2012
 
Sinhala gay wrote:
I used to rub my black arse against the Lingam.
How'd that work out for you?

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DebJ wrote:
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It's ironic that you associate evolution with atheism, but I digress.
http://www.sanctuaryweb.com/PDFs_new/Bloom%20...
"Traumatic experience produces a physiological overload
that the brain and body are unable to manage adequately, preventing us from continuing to
function normally. Our primary defense to cope with this physiological overload is a mechanism
called ‘dissociation’. Although a life-saving coping skill in the short-run, dissociation
produces fragmentation of vital mental functions, and the result is diminished integration
and therefore impaired performance."
Note the phrase "a life-saving coping skill in the short run" that's evolution, sparky. I never said evolution's job is to make death easier, that's flawed perspective on your part.
No, I was not screaming on the inside, I repeat for the slower learners here, I didn't really want to come back at that time. Your science is slightly fractured.
Very cool, that tends to support what I was suggesting in an earlier response to Dave. It isn't the same thing but it's pretty close.

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So I am guessing that after 508,903 posts, nobody has been able to prove there's a God, yet.
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There's no proof god exists, but there is that he doesn't...and religion still exists?
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boooots wrote:
It not only is claimed but is an absolute fact; one cannot prove the non-existence of anything. We do not have the capability of looking far enough into the total universes (if there is such as thing as an end to them), that even if we could 100% prove that something is non-existent within our ability to see it, it 'could' still exist outside of our abilities.
To base your life on a thing which has no evidence is infantile justification. Negatives can be proven as stated before by Buck and others and ignored by your group. Your dogmatic assertions a negative cannot be proven is repeated over and over. Your group more or less plays with a rigged hand putting the standards on Theists and at the same time exempting themselves from the same standard. There are books out there which argues for the validity of atheism. I see them in the bookstores.
That does not then prove that a god exists, but only that we cannot prove there are no gods.
So atheism is a default position, an assumption, which cannot be demonstrated. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Dawkins et all rants against God of Scripture as if that is some sort of intellectial justification for his atheism. Well it might be a psychological, in an infantile sort of way, to deny God, but it certainly is not intellectual. One can despise God and God can still exist! Folks on here do the same and then deny they do it.''I do not hate what i do not believe in.'' Their posts say otherwise.
The best that we can do, and has already been done by many learned people, is show the untruths of the references that man has used to teach each succeeding generation about the existence of the God that man has believed in for a short space in time of our total time on this earth.
Based on fixed assumptions. Quoting from Scripture is arguing in a circle so scripture is out even though they are written as accounts, they are continually referred to as myths no more valid than Alice in Wonderland which was clearly fiction literature for children.
The Bible, for example, has been completely discredited as being 100% the word of a perfect God, due to its many errors, as has the Quran.
You expect word perfect. You set the standards to high as does Ehrmann. Expecting perfection. The Bible is consistent in the essentials of the Christian faith. It's witness is consistent. Ressurrection of Christ. Deity of Christ. Reconcilliation with God through Christ. Etc. Most alleged errors are trivial. I could make your argument for atheism better than most atheists on this site. All it takes is an open mind when reading Biblical and extra Biblical literature as it relates to Josephus and other accounts.
Those believers in God that accept the errors and go on from that still believing do have a weak case; those who hold to 100% inerrancy have no case at all.
It depends on how innerancy is defined. Scripture is not the forth person of the Trinity. I would not die for the innerancy of scripture based on your definition. Scripture is corrupted when it is translated from the original language, the sermon on the mount is a summary and it is not word perfect and everybody knows that. They did not have voice recorders back then. One account says there were two angels at the tomb and another one angel. Well the account which sauys one angel does not say only one angel and where you have two there is always at least one. If every detail was consistent then folks would cry collusion and you know it. As it is know many here assume it all came from Mark. I could go on and on but there is work today. Hope you have a good day.
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Jun 11, 2012
 
Silent_______Assassin wrote:
Sorry, I meant Doc not Soc.
Friend have a good day!

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Apocalypse666 wrote:
Come on and do it.
Prove there's a god.
Don;t read off scripture or anything like that just prove there's a god.
Well first you have to define GOD... There are many perceived Gods so which one are you talking about?

I believe in a Higher Power... A power greater than myself as I did not make the earth, stars, trees, humans, animals, dinosaurs and I'm pretty sure you didnt either!

I see GOD as a simple 3 letter word that simply puts a name on this greater power. Call "IT" DOG if that makes you feel better about yourself!!!

Spirituality is not the same thing as organized religion, which is what you likely have an issue with, as do I!

Whatever the case may be, do not fault others for their beliefs as you expect them to not fault you for your beliefs. Who's to say either one is wrong???? GOD??? YOU???

You will likely reply to this with some smart ass comment that cannot be proven... Just like GOD... So IN YOUR MIND, do whatever it takes to carry on, but do not judge others for being happy... Sounds like a bad case of self-centered envy to me..

Just my opinion... as I am entitled, just as you are entitled...as a human right of existence!!

Feel free to contact me when you are ready to be open-minded and willing as you so blatently expect others to be of your opinion!!!

I will pray for your soul... Have a blessed day, s I KNOW I will since I have GOD leading the way!

“There's a feeling I get...”

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Jun 11, 2012
 
Chimney1 wrote:
So I am guessing that after 508,903 posts, nobody has been able to prove there's a God, yet.
Double Fine did already

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Jun 11, 2012
 
Sinhala gay wrote:
I want sri lanka to be a 100% buddhist country, my president mahinda rajafucksay have killed many tamils, I want to become a buddhist monk, Sinhala buddhist monks sucks tamils dyck. They are lucky...ROFL...LMAO...
You must first beat Pakistan, mate...

And when you are done, you can come play against us.

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Jun 11, 2012
 
Double Fine wrote:
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You must first beat Pakistan, mate...
And when you are done, you can come play against us.
Just don't play against us in the World Cup!

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Jun 11, 2012
 
Chess Jurist wrote:
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This made much more sense before you typed it, huh?
Just nod.
It'll go better for you that way.
>Download 2012
>Mother of all rock & metal festivals
>Black Sabbbath reforming
>Soundgarden reforming
>YES!

You're jealous.

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Sinhala gay wrote:
I use my dyck as a bat to play cricket...LMAO
Your trolling attempts are terrible.

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DebJ wrote:
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It's ironic that you associate evolution with atheism, but I digress.
http://www.sanctuaryweb.com/PDFs_new/Bloom%20...
"Traumatic experience produces a physiological overload
that the brain and body are unable to manage adequately, preventing us from continuing to
function normally. Our primary defense to cope with this physiological overload is a mechanism
called ‘dissociation’. Although a life-saving coping skill in the short-run, dissociation
produces fragmentation of vital mental functions, and the result is diminished integration
and therefore impaired performance."
Note the phrase "a life-saving coping skill in the short run" that's evolution, sparky. I never said evolution's job is to make death easier, that's flawed perspective on your part.
No, I was not screaming on the inside, I repeat for the slower learners here, I didn't really want to come back at that time. Your science is slightly fractured.
After realizing something on the real serious side just happened, I tried raising up from the floor to see what happened. I launched through a black tunnel and all of the pain and noise just stopped. Felt good. My total concentration was on scoping out the situation. After a few moments I looked back from where I came and saw a green smoky trail backlit by the front windshield that ended up in me. That started the process where I realized I was a gone gosling. I mentioned waking up. I wasn't just looking at a vast blackness, I was in it. All by my lonesome.

I am a very visually oriented person. Any memories I have of something are almost always accompanied by a visual record. After that wakeup there was an immediate visual memory that then ceased for a while. No recording of what transpired, but did I ever come back with some intuitions and understandings. After that period was when I got into position to enter a different realm in a different form. I was looking at it. Be advised the nearest landscape to match it was over 2000 miles away. I was not eager to enter it.

You should understand I am a rather analytical person. I understand how things work on the physical level. After the incident you can believe I spent a lot of time trying to figure out what was going on. Of course I realized I was a wounded animal at the time, and how the mind works.

You didn't want to go back. You didn't want to deal with the pain. I just wandered off looking around and discovered "uh oh!". Not once did I even think about returning to my body. Instead I scanned those around me to see whose part I would take over. None had a life I wanted to assume. Except for a bonded couple, and man and a wife. That was the only bright light in the whole experience, when I was regarding them. I still can't remember if that was a warning or a smile when I just couldn't let myself interfere with them. That might have saved my ass. Be advised I had the power and strength to insert myself into others. Scary, huh? Right after that was when all attempts to stay in this movie ended, and I woke up as described. Total resignation to an end.

Damage to the meat sends spurious signals to the processor of the brain. A strictly material consciousness will quickly become disorganized. Coherency will quickly turn into randomness. But there is a core of rather high level thought observing the effects.

Those "explanations" you gave are rationalizations that don't fit material reality. They really don't get into the nuts and bolts.

Your emotions cloud your perceptions. You jump to conclusions on how I, and others, think.

Not enough space left to enlighten you on that. Perhaps later to day. Keep in mind I said I had developed a technician's religion.

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