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Is Muhammed (PBUH) the last and Quran the final revelation ??

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Our poor excuses

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Dec 24, 2006
 
Venusian wrote:
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jeez...have you used the word "false" enough for tonight?
yes Islam is a false religion and Jesus is the son of God because the New Testament says so. there is nothing "false" about that.
Merry Christmas!

For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.(Isa 9:6)

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Dec 24, 2006
 
Our poor excuses wrote:
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Merry Christmas!
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.(Isa 9:6)
DID JESUS SUCCEED IN HIS MISSION ie. To preach the Jews the new religion he brought ?????

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Dec 25, 2006
 
Our poor excuses wrote:
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Merry Christmas!
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.(Isa 9:6)
merry satranalia is more like it..
christmas is more a duplicate of the pagan celebration than of the night of nativity especially because Jesus (peace be upon him) is estimated to have been born in spring.
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Dec 25, 2006
 
Venusian wrote:
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merry satranalia is more like it..
christmas is more a duplicate of the pagan celebration ...
And what is Islam?

Did not Muhammad worship a diety named Al-Lah before "Gabriel" revealed himself? Was Al-lah th head diety that saw over 98 more dieties? Was Muhammad's father not named servant of Al-lah and looked over a rock worshiped by his tribe and others? So much for Islam having its roots in monotheism. Islam is the epitome of paganism... At least Christmas has roots in european paganism and nature.
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#32
Dec 25, 2006
 
Monotheists tend to view thw world in black and white when its actually a shade of grey. Now that I have made cliche, I think both Xtianity and Islam have millinia long historys of spilling blood to gain riches, land and power. That shame will always burden you. Pagan Reconstruction is upon you.

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Dec 25, 2006
 
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And what is Islam?
Did not Muhammad worship a diety named Al-Lah before "Gabriel" revealed himself? Was Al-lah th head diety that saw over 98 more dieties? Was Muhammad's father not named servant of Al-lah and looked over a rock worshiped by his tribe and others? So much for Islam having its roots in monotheism. Islam is the epitome of paganism... At least Christmas has roots in european paganism and nature.
Mohammad did not worship any diety. he had no religion and was illeterate before the revelation. one of the pagan gods may have been called Al-lah, but the God of Moses had the same name. In hebrew God was referred to as Al-loh so we can say it was the God of Moses that Mohammad was talking about not the God of the pagans.
what are you doing attacking islam online on Christmas day anyway?
go open up your presents and hang out with your family around the christmas tree (the idea of which you took from the persian zoroastrians:)). have fun!
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Dec 25, 2006
 
Venusian wrote:
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Mohammad did not worship any diety. he had no religion and was illeterate before the revelation. one of the pagan gods may have been called Al-lah, but the God of Moses had the same name. In hebrew God was referred to as Al-loh so we can say it was the God of Moses that Mohammad was talking about not the God of the pagans.
what are you doing attacking islam online on Christmas day anyway?
go open up your presents and hang out with your family around the christmas tree (the idea of which you took from the persian zoroastrians:)). have fun!
yeah,,well said,,and the Yule tree is from Asatru as well as the zoroastrians.
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Dec 25, 2006
 
Ahmer Afaq wrote:
<quoted text> DID JESUS SUCCEED IN HIS MISSION ie. To preach the Jews the new religion he brought ?????
You seem to think not. Elaborate if you will.

That idea that you think Jesus taught something new reveals you do not actually know what you are reading.

Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.(Psa 2:12)
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Dec 25, 2006
 
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merry satranalia is more like it..
christmas is more a duplicate of the pagan celebration than of the night of nativity especially because Jesus (peace be upon him) is estimated to have been born in spring.
Oh and exactly what day in spring do you celebrate the much heralded birth of the Child King?
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Dec 25, 2006
 
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Mohammad did not worship any diety. he had no religion and was illeterate before the revelation. one of the pagan gods may have been called Al-lah
No hun, HIS pagan God.

He was a Qurashi, they worshiped a moon diety named Al-lah.
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Dec 25, 2006
 
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Jesus(PBUH) was the last messenger amongst the Jews and for the Jews only and not for the entire world.
Mathew 10:5" These twelve Jesus sent: commanding them, saying: Go ye not into the way of the Gentiles, and into the city of the Samaritans enter ye not.
10:6. But go ye rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel"
Further we read...
Mathew 15:22. And behold a woman of Canaan who came out of those coasts, crying out, said to him: Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David: my daughter is grievously troubled by a devil.
15:23. Who answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying: Send her away, for she crieth after us:
15:24. And he answering, said: I was not sent but to the sheep, that are lost of the house of Israel.
MUHAMMED DID MEET JESUS(PBUH)AND MOSES(PBUH) AND ABRAHIM(PBUH) AMONGST OTHERS DURING HIS ASCENTION OF HEAVEN. NO LAKE OF FIRE WAS THERE AND NO DEVIL WAS THROWN AWAY. IF IT HAPPENED SO THEN EVIL WOULD HAVE BEEN WIPED OUT OF THIS EARTH FOREVER.
HOPE MY ANSWER IS UPTO MARK AND DOES NOT OFFEND ANYONE. PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR MY MISTAKES.
"Let the People of the Injeel judge by what Allah had revealed therein."

In other word ever Muhammad is telling you to stfu.
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#38
Dec 25, 2006
 
OurpoorExcuses, keep preaching the Gosple,you have seen and know Jesus in your spirit through your close love relationship with HIM. You must read the Bible daily or often to know HIM,The Holy Spirit reveals to those who seek God. Last year I shared the Goodnews and my testimony to a muslim woman,she accepted Jesus Christ as her Saviour.Jesus said,HE IS THE WAY,THE TRUTH,THE LIFE in John 14:6
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Dec 25, 2006
 
Early Childhood Adv. Keep speading the Goodnews. You know the Bible.

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Dec 25, 2006
 
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No hun, HIS pagan God.
He was a Qurashi, they worshiped a moon diety named Al-lah.
like I said, it has been established that Mohammad (peace be upon him) was not religious.
If the Quran says Allah is the same God as that of Moses (peace be upon him) "Al-Loh", then who are you to decide it was the pagan god?

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Dec 25, 2006
 
Bao Vn wrote:
Early Childhood Adv. Keep speading the Goodnews. You know the Bible.
stop cheer leading for others and try to contribute something of substance.
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Dec 25, 2006
 
Venusian wrote:
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like I said, it has been established that Mohammad (peace be upon him) was not religious.
If the Quran says Allah is the same God as that of Moses (peace be upon him) "Al-Loh", then who are you to decide it was the pagan god?
I'm not muslim so I'm not beholden to what the Quran says.

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Dec 25, 2006
 
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I'm not muslim so I'm not beholden to what the Quran says.
we were not talking about you. We were talking about Mohammad's (peace be upon him) beliefs.
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Dec 25, 2006
 
Venusian wrote:
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we were not talking about you. We were talking about Mohammad's (peace be upon him) beliefs.
Mo has been dead for centuries. Its how folks respond to outdated text like the bible and its twin the quran; that we are talking about.
Now that Venus,,,she is a wonderful Goddess!
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Dec 25, 2006
 
Those jews or christians who do not know that Muhammad (PBUH) was the last prophet and Quran is the final revelation, should check their own original religious books or should discuss it with their priests rather than disputing it for their own sake and pleasure. The original bible and other religious books clearly speaks of Muhammad(PBUH). As a muslim, i believe in Jesus (PBUH)(Hazrat Essa) as one of the messengers of Allah, just like Muhammad(PBUH)who was also but the last messenger of Allah. Till Eternity (Qiyamat) Quran will remain unchanged as the final revelation of Allah. Jesus, Moses, Abraham all speak of one and only GOD and that is ALLAH.
May Allah show all of us and you the right direction. Aameen.
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Dec 25, 2006
 
Venusian wrote:
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stop cheer leading for others and try to contribute something of substance.
Are you some form of moderator now?

Stop cheerleading for a dead false-prophet that is awaiting the lake of fire. Your 'blessing' has no affect - he died without the Savior, Jesus.

But it is not too late for you...

Kiss the Son, lest he be angry and you be destroyed in your way, for his wrath can flare up in a moment. Blessed are all who take refuge in him.(Psa 2:12)

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