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created by: Just Me | Dec 3, 2007

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Is evolution a lie?

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Ed Burke

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Dec 3, 2007
 
No ! Evolution was part of God's Plan and creation. There simply is no conflict with God at all.
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Dec 3, 2007
 
Ed:
I'd like to know how you reconcile the two togather.
You have 2 choices.
1.) In the Begening GOD created the Heavens & Earth.
2.) In the Begening There was "NOTHING". One day "NOTHING" blew-up & formed something. Billions of years down after little bugs were formed, they EVOLVED into Complex Animals we call today Humans.
Explain your theory please.
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Dec 3, 2007
 
Buford J wrote:
Ed:
In the Begening There was "NOTHING". One day "NOTHING" blew-up & formed something. Billions of years down after little bugs were formed, they EVOLVED into Complex Animals we call today Humans.
Explain your theory please.
The only thing religious people can think of. This proves that you know nothing of evolution. Things change over millions of years. The Big bang is only a theory, not fact. Parts of evolution have been proven. Where is your proof of creationism? Oh that's right; there is none.
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The only thing religious people can think of. This proves that you know nothing of evolution. Things change over millions of years. The Big bang is only a theory, not fact. Parts of evolution have been proven. Where is your proof of creationism? Oh that's right; there is none.
True, Big Bang is only theory, if not myth.

PLease help us out ... what parts of evolution have been proven?
god is IMAGINARY friend

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Dec 3, 2007
 
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True, Big Bang is only theory, if not myth.
PLease help us out ... what parts of evolution have been proven?
read and learn
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Dec 3, 2007
 
Buford J wrote:
Ed:
I'd like to know how you reconcile the two togather.
You have 2 choices.
1.) In the Begening GOD created the Heavens & Earth.
2.) In the Begening There was "NOTHING". One day "NOTHING" blew-up & formed something.
Only problem with your idea is that you are not speaking of the Theory of Evolution.
You are trying to say evolution is not true by stating you find a different idea ridiculous.
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Billions of years down after little bugs were formed, they EVOLVED into Complex Animals we call today Humans.
Explain your theory please.
The last part of your statement is mostly correct.
After life formed on this planet, it evolved from those simple life forms to more complex life forms and yes eventually to humans.

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ME AND YOU wrote:
PLease help us out ... what parts of evolution have been proven?
Only the parts that state that mutations in genetics, natural selection, and environmental changes can and do lead to new species.

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Dec 3, 2007
 
Ed Burke wrote:
No ! Evolution was part of God's Plan and creation. There simply is no conflict with God at all.
If you want to believe that god used evolution to bring about the biodiversity that we see today, I have no problem with that.
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Dec 3, 2007
 
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Only the parts that state that mutations in genetics, natural selection, and environmental changes can and do lead to new species.
Sorry buddy, but that is total BS. Rearanging english letters will never produce chinese characters.

Evolution requires that the exchange of information PRODUCE new info ... not on your life.

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Dec 3, 2007
 
ME AND YOU wrote:
Sorry buddy, but that is total BS. Rearanging english letters will never produce chinese characters.
If we were talking about the evolution of language, you might have a point.
But, that is not the discussion here.
ME AND YOU wrote:
Evolution requires that the exchange of information PRODUCE new info ... not on your life.
Please, if you would, show us where "Evolution requires that the exchange of information PRODUCE new info". Any examples might be helpful.
I really like to know what lies the preachers and creationist web sites are telling these days.

What evolution actually requires is a change to the existing information. This is called genetic mutation. It is the modification of the existing information (genetic code) which can and will cause physical changes to the animal involved.

You listen to too many creationists.
Sorry, but I can't be held responsible for you having absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You really should ask for a refund if you actually paid for any of your education.

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Dec 3, 2007
 
ME AND YOU wrote:
Sorry buddy, but that is total BS. Rearanging english letters will never produce chinese characters.
Also rearranging eglish letters may not produce chinese letters but it will produce a different word in english.

Now to apply this to evolution.
We are all animals (english words) when you change the genetic code (letters) you get a slightly different animal (english word).

Now, if every 100 times you copy a word you make a slight change to letters, over time, you will wind up with a word that is nothing like the original.
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Dec 4, 2007
 

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Also rearranging eglish letters may not produce chinese letters but it will produce a different word in english.
Now to apply this to evolution.
We are all animals (english words) when you change the genetic code (letters) you get a slightly different animal (english word).
Now, if every 100 times you copy a word you make a slight change to letters, over time, you will wind up with a word that is nothing like the original.
That is my point. Felines will always be felines, and never fish or visaversa.
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Please, if you would, show us where "Evolution requires that the exchange of information PRODUCE new info". Any examples might be helpful.
Sure, not a problem.

Your theory claims that one celled organisms slowly evolved into you and me.

Check it out for yourself, new genetic structures!

The CODE for our arms, legs and even eyes are not found in their DNA.

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That is my point. Felines will always be felines, and never fish or visaversa.
At least until the new feline is so far from the old one that there is no way you could still call it a feline or until it can no longer successfully mate with the original.

It then becomes something else all together.
It will never be a fish, it will never be a dog, it will never be a bear, but it will also cease to be a feline.

The theory of evolution does not say a feline will become a fish and no matter how much you want to believe the lies the creationist tell you it never has.

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Sure, not a problem.
Your theory claims that one celled organisms slowly evolved into you and me.
Check it out for yourself, new genetic structures!
The CODE for our arms, legs and even eyes are not found in their DNA.
You are mistaking the combination of existing genetic structures with the creation of new genetic structures.
The early life combined with other early life to work together to form more and more complex organisms and structures. These in time "fused" into one organism instead of the multiple organisms that made up the whole.

We are not talking about a single celled organism suddenly turning into a human. We are talking about single celled organisms becoming multi-celled organisms (colonies) that became the early invertebrates that became the early fish that became the early amphibians that became the early reptiles and the early mammals that became more and more complex over millions of generations.

If you think that since we didn't jump from single cells to humans means that evolution didn't happen just shows that you really don't have any idea what you are talking about.

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evolution is extinction!
Me too

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JustWow wrote:
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You are mistaking the combination of existing genetic structures with the creation of new genetic structures.
And you obviously are oblivious to the fact that what you are talking about is non-sense.
JustWow wrote:
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The early life combined with other early life to work together to form more and more complex organisms and structures. These in time "fused" into one organism instead of the multiple organisms that made up the whole.[/quote]

Let the record show that these organisms are STILL THE SAME TYPE OF ORGANISM.

[quote]We are not talking about a single celled organism suddenly turning into a human.[/quote]

duh!

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We are talking about single celled organisms becoming multi-celled organisms (colonies) that became the early invertebrates that became the early fish that became the early amphibians that became the early reptiles and the early mammals that became more and more complex over millions of generations.[/quote]

Where did the genetic material come from? Sounds like you have a magic wand.

[quote]If you think that since we didn't jump from single cells to humans means that evolution didn't happen just shows that you really don't have any idea what you are talking about.
Agreed! Now you are making sense.
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At least until the new feline is so far from the old one that there is no way you could still call it a feline or until it can no longer successfully mate with the original.[/quote]

STOP THE PRESSES!!!!!!!!!!

Who said that the new feline would be so far from the old one that there is no way you could still call it a feline or until it can no longer successfully mate with the original?

Show us the facts man! Where is your proof for such a rediculous claim that such a thing is possible!

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It then becomes something else all together.[/quote]

Ya, a feline. Again, show us the proof of your claim.

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It will never be a fish, it will never be a dog, it will never be a bear, but it will also cease to be a feline.[/quote]

Agreed, what you are saying has never, nor will ever happen.

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The theory of evolution does not say a feline will become a fish .
That is true, and the opposite is also BOGUS.
Me too

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Dec 4, 2007
 
What happened to my post? It's all in quotes. OOPS!
Matt

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Dec 4, 2007
 
actually no sir. Genetic mutation could be the branching out of a species, many think humans evolved in a straight line but that is not the case as with many sub-species, neanderthals (many scientists believe we are not directly related to them and they just died out do to war or a number of other things.
This is how it happens lets take 3 letters jkl in one generation you get jkl,jkl,jkl,jkl,jkl,jkl,jkl now gen. two has a mutation in a chromosome causing generation 2 to be jkl,jkl,jkl,jkl,jkl,jml,jkl
now lets same this mutation is benificial to the survival of the species lets say it now has a longer neck or tongue so it can eat more leaves off trees so it has more opportunities to reproduce because it can stay alive longer. So generation 3 is a combination of jml and jkl so this is the effects
jkl,jkl,jml,jml,jml,jml,jml. Now for times sake jkl dies out/ moves away from jml, and jml is now a new, BUT SIMILAR SPECIES, now we don't know what caused the initial mutation so if you want you can say it was the work of god good for you. Now lets continue. We have jml,jml,jml,jml,jml,jml and the process is repeated until jml looks like uio wow but it does happen. As far as proof there are structural features on many hominids found in africa that look like monkey skulls but have the vertibra of a human. Again natural selection and mutation. And more evidence is out there. I learned all this from an anthropology class at mnsu and i have a C that is bullcr*p. I should print this off and email it to her.
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