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Do you believe in Evolutuion or the Bible?

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“Walking Attitude”

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<quoted text>it does? how so?
Without reciting the WHOLE book of Genesis:

In the beginning the Earth was without form........

Hmmmmmmmm........ Perhaps a nebula??

The lord said let there be light - BIG bANG!!!!!!!!

God created the Earth and everything on it in 7 days..........

God is beyond time - A day to God can be a thousand years, or a thousand years a day..........

What were those 7 days?

Interesting all the plants and animals were created first. Lastly man was created. Hand in glove with evolution..........
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Nov 11, 2009
 
VETVN68 wrote:
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Did you marrty my ex wife?
That was your Wife?
You must have been very, very drunk and desperate to marry that.
I thought it was an aping imitation of neanderthal woman.

But no, I didn't marry her, just set another bowl of food next to my dogs and hoped she left soon.
Before the dogs got too skinny from refusing to eat next to her.

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Nov 11, 2009
 
Idi O Syncrasy wrote:
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The duration humans have observed matter and energy equates to less than a nanosecond in time.
So it's still a relative assumption whether matter/energy has never been created or destroyed.
And yet your God has not been observed AT ALL in any verifiable fashion!!
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Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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And yet your God has not been observed AT ALL in any verifiable fashion!!
Seeing God is too much for humans to withstand. So God has used columns of smoke or fire to protect people or sent angels as representatives. And of course, there is God's son, Jesus. Many people have witnessed these displays and they recorded them for posterity.

"The LORD preceded them, in the daytime by means of a column of cloud to show them the way, and at night by means of a column of fire to give them light. Thus they could travel both day and night.
Neither the column of cloud by day nor the column of fire by night ever left its place in front of the people."
Ex.13:21,22
(A column of cloud ... a column of fire: probably one and the same preternatural phenomenon, a central nucleus of fire surrounded by smoke; only at night was its luminous nature visible.)

"But if the cloud did not lift, they would not go forward; only when it lifted did they go forward.
In the daytime the cloud of the LORD was seen over the Dwelling; whereas at night, fire was seen in the cloud by the whole house of Israel in all the stages of their journey."
Ex.40:37,38

Moses got pretty close and personal;
"Having come down in a cloud, the LORD stood with him there and proclaimed his name, "LORD."
Ex.34:5

And people noticed the physical effect this had on Moses;

"As Moses came down from Mount Sinai with the two tablets of the commandments in his hands, he did not know that the skin of his face had become radiant while he conversed with the LORD.
When Aaron, then, and the other Israelites saw Moses and noticed how radiant the skin of his face had become, they were afraid to come near him.
Then the Israelites would see that the skin of Moses' face was radiant; so he would again put the veil over his face until he went in to converse with the LORD."
Ex.34:29,30&35

So in consideration of mankind, God began using angels as intermediaries, till He sent his son.. It's all documented.
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#2628
Nov 11, 2009
 
Subtitle2009 wrote:
<quoted text>Energy is not created nor destroyed it is merely transformed.
That's incredibly naive and optimistic. Then we'll never run out of batteries again. We're constantly losing energy because of our imperfect systems.

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Nov 11, 2009
 
Idi O Syncrasy wrote:
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Seeing God is too much for humans to withstand. So God has used columns of smoke or fire to protect people or sent angels as representatives. And of course, there is God's son, Jesus. Many people have witnessed these displays and they recorded them for posterity.
"The LORD preceded them, in the daytime by means of a column of cloud to show them the way, and at night by means of a column of fire to give them light. Thus they could travel both day and night.
Neither the column of cloud by day nor the column of fire by night ever left its place in front of the people."
Ex.13:21,22
(A column of cloud ... a column of fire: probably one and the same preternatural phenomenon, a central nucleus of fire surrounded by smoke; only at night was its luminous nature visible.)
"But if the cloud did not lift, they would not go forward; only when it lifted did they go forward.
In the daytime the cloud of the LORD was seen over the Dwelling; whereas at night, fire was seen in the cloud by the whole house of Israel in all the stages of their journey."
Ex.40:37,38
Moses got pretty close and personal;
"Having come down in a cloud, the LORD stood with him there and proclaimed his name, "LORD."
Ex.34:5
And people noticed the physical effect this had on Moses;
"As Moses came down from Mount Sinai with the two tablets of the commandments in his hands, he did not know that the skin of his face had become radiant while he conversed with the LORD.
When Aaron, then, and the other Israelites saw Moses and noticed how radiant the skin of his face had become, they were afraid to come near him.
Then the Israelites would see that the skin of Moses' face was radiant; so he would again put the veil over his face until he went in to converse with the LORD."
Ex.34:29,30&35
So in consideration of mankind, God began using angels as intermediaries, till He sent his son.. It's all documented.
Angels and Demons also have not been AT ALL in any verifiable fashion.

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Huhhuh wrote:
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That's incredibly naive and optimistic. Then we'll never run out of batteries again. We're constantly losing energy because of our imperfect systems.
Sorry, you are the one being ignorant here. The conservation of energy is a well established LAW of physics.

Batteries store energy in chemical bonds, when the bonds are depleted, so is the stored energy, but none of it has been created or destroyed, merely stored, then transformed.

Imperfect systems lose energy by generating work that we don't want. Heat is the most common example. But again, no energy is created nor destroyed, it is merely transformed from one kind of energy to another.

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Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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Sorry, you are the one being ignorant here. The conservation of energy is a well established LAW of physics.
Batteries store energy in chemical bonds, when the bonds are depleted, so is the stored energy, but none of it has been created or destroyed, merely stored, then transformed.
Imperfect systems lose energy by generating work that we don't want. Heat is the most common example. But again, no energy is created nor destroyed, it is merely transformed from one kind of energy to another.
Finally you understand God.

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#2632
Nov 11, 2009
 
Huhhuh wrote:
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That's incredibly naive and optimistic. Then we'll never run out of batteries again. We're constantly losing energy because of our imperfect systems.
We lose energy as heat.

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#2633
Nov 11, 2009
 
Vanessa HPU wrote:
<quoted text>Finally you understand God.
I have people theorize that all matter and energy of the universe in sum total might be God himself.

That proposition borders more on Hinduism than on Christianity IMHO.

However, I do not have sufficient evidence to accept nor deny that proposition.

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Nov 11, 2009
 
s/I have people/I have heard people/

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Freedom Lover of IL wrote:
<quoted text> We lose energy as heat.
Heat is a form of energy. In sum total, no energy is created nor destroyed.

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Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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I have people theorize that all matter and energy of the universe in sum total might be God himself.
That proposition borders more on Hinduism than on Christianity IMHO.
However, I do not have sufficient evidence to accept nor deny that proposition.
Interesting all the same.

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Vanessa HPU wrote:
<quoted text>Interesting all the same.
Especially since that would mean the universe is unfolding exactly as it should. That may not be very comforting to those facing injustice and the horrors that life can offer. But it certainly lends to a concept of omnipotence and omniscience that seems more true than folly-fuxing around with condemnation, fairy tales and contradictory rules would.

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Nov 11, 2009
 
jethro8 wrote:
if you think about it there is no clear passage in the bible that states we are alone in the universe,considering the number of planets that are out there i'd be willing to bet we are not alone,after all god (if he exists) had to come from somewhere.
Carl Sagan once said something to the effect that if we are alone in the universe, then it's an awful lot of wasted space.

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Vanessa HPU wrote:
<quoted text>Finally you understand God.
Actually, it's pretty easy to understand God...once you get past that strong Italian accent.

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Nov 11, 2009
 
Queue wrote:
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Without reciting the WHOLE book of Genesis:
In the beginning the Earth was without form........
Hmmmmmmmm........ Perhaps a nebula??
The lord said let there be light - BIG bANG!!!!!!!!
God created the Earth and everything on it in 7 days..........
God is beyond time - A day to God can be a thousand years, or a thousand years a day..........
What were those 7 days?
Interesting all the plants and animals were created first. Lastly man was created. Hand in glove with evolution..........
Don't forget about Pre-Adamite man and the verse about every creature that moves came forth from the water, each from its kind.

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Nov 11, 2009
 
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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I have people theorize that all matter and energy of the universe in sum total might be God himself.
That proposition borders more on Hinduism than on Christianity IMHO.
However, I do not have sufficient evidence to accept nor deny that proposition.
I believe God controls all the matter and energy(well is there a difference, really) in the universe.
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Nov 12, 2009
 
Subtitle2009 wrote:
<quoted text>I believe God controls all the matter and energy(well is there a difference, really) in the universe.
Why?

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#2643
Nov 12, 2009
 
Idi O Syncrasy wrote:
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No it doesn't.
That's the status quo opinion of fraternal scientists whose careers are dependent on it.
And they write those books you have faith in.
Now of course they'll trot out every excuse in the book and lie to everyone and them selves, but in the end its an excuse to save face.
You know your post actually tickled me. I mean whats up with the drunken frat boy retort.

Some guy gets called an idiot and he can only reply back with is *NO YOUR AN IDIOT!!*

You must have had a long day or aren't feeling good because usually you layer on the misdirection and deception with a FIRE HOSE. Instead you quot me back to me??? You must be having a long day or something.

I expect better deception from you :}
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