tatto wrote:
Is there any holocust !!
Good question tatto. What most everyone thinks when the Holocaust is mentioned is a slaughter of Jews. In this context the holocaust did happen, but lets not forget the the jews were the minority of people (total number) who died during that time. This isn't to minimize the incredible loss of human life but this is to look at what happened here.
This was an awful time but why do we give so much sorrow to the jews and not acknowledge others who died? I don't have bad feelings for any race, creed, color or anything because we are all HUMANS, and we better start thinking in that context.
Because we associate the holocaust with the Jewish people they have received special treatment throughout the years. This goes to the heart of the Iranian presidents statements. Why is it that Israel is allowed to produce nuclear weapons without any oversight and yet we haul Iran in front of the security council because we SUSPECT they want them. Why has Zionism succeeded, why was Israel declared a soverign nation? It's an easy argument to make that they were given it because of the guilt from the holocaust.
Is that right to the people who were already there? No! I think anyone could image that happening. Lets say martians came to earth and decided to move into New Jersey. They started buying the land and moving friends there. Eventually they have enough land and power to start controlling things. This is now a martian enclave and the people who have occupied the land for thousands of years are told it is no longer yours. I would be pissed off, and I would fight for my homeland, why are we blaming any Palenstinians because they do? Israel is recognized as an occupying force. Who among countries would take that laying down?
So yes, the holocaust did happen and it took 13 million HUMAN lives.(haven't studied that deeply, not sure of the exact numbers) How many millions die each year from malnutrition or treatable diseases or aids or any number of things. I think it is more insidious that humans die in this way, it is so needless.
Would the Jewish state exist if it wasn't for the holocaust, what is wrong with asking and debating this issue. I mean no ill will or offense to anyone.