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Since: Nov 07
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NO Phags wrote: prove that homosexuality is wrong? That's the challenge sport, let's see if your man enough. NO Phags wrote: It is not moral for a man to put his D*ck up another mans BUTT H*le!!! Actually, I kinda knew this when you called yourself "NO Phags", but I had to give yourself the chance to fail miserably and boy did you exceed my expectations. No one gives a flying f8ck what you deem to be moral and what you do not. Your issues with your homoerotic fantasies are your problem, not ours. If you have "issues" over the concept of two people of the same sex actually having sex, I feel for ya, I do, but your problem ain't our problem. NO Phags wrote: This is a sickness, absolutely certain. Um, the only sickness I've seen here has been your own. Think about it. Being Gay is nothing more than a perfectly normal and perfectly natural variation of being human. You may not like that reality, but it doesn't change the reality. Oh and just for the record, if you were trying to prove what psycho-social-sexual issues you had, congratulations. But unfortunately your self-professed task was to prove homosexuality wrong and on that failed miserably doesn't even come close. All you told us was that you had a moral stance on man on man butt sex which you have somehow managed to confuse with being gay.
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rob mon
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Rick in Kansas wrote: <quoted text>And you toss that out there as if you actually could fake a f8cking clue as to what you're suggesting. So-called "conversion therapy" is nothing more than just the latest and most pernicious fraudulent "cure" to come down the pike. Well meaning and not so well meaning heterosexuals have been trying for to "cure" us of our homosexuality for thousands of years now. They've tried torture, imprisonment, drug therapies, hormone therapies, aversion therapies, electroshock, lobotomies, hell, we've even been put to death to "cure" us and yet we're still here. As for this so-called "conversion therapy", it has been proved to be not only almost always completely ineffective, but to leave the vast majority for whom it will inevitably fail more psychologically, emotionally and spiritually damaged than when they started. There's a cure for you. You can change. The only thing in the room which needs to be cured is the obscene notion that being homosexual is something which needs to be changed in the first place. We were given this gift for a reason, maybe just to piss off heterosexual supremacists such as yourself.
<quoted text>Sorry, but those "homosexual tendencies" you heard about in the wild kingdom, happen for reasons necessary for the ongoing survival of their species. It shows up in the human species for reasons necessary for the ongoing survival of our species as well. There's a great deal of information on the subject available, you just have to look.
<quoted text>Actually, you can in fact have children and family of your own and still be every bit the "gay" you claim to be. Technological advances which have allowed opposite sex parents who cannot reproduce to reproduce are available to same sex couples as well. If that's too much, there is always adoption, there are many children who have been cast off from those much lauded holier than us heterosexual unions who need good parents that their own bio parents failed to be. first of all out of my experience, conversion therapy works at least is working for me secondly you haven`t answered my question is homosexuality a way of reproduction in animals since all animals reproduce the heterosexual way? thirdly nobody knows whether it is healthy for the child to have parents of same sex and I don`t think so because a mum or a dad can't be replaced.
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“Does not play well ”
Since: Nov 07
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rob mon wrote: first of all out of my experience, conversion therapy works at least is working for me So you claim, but the one peer reviewed longitudinal study of the effectiveness of faith based conversion programs found a success (defined as elimination of same sex attractions) rate over five years of roughly 3%, all of whom were or had become employees of these various groups. That's a NINETY-SEVEN PERCENT FAILURE RATE. Then you can add to that little problem the fact that two-thirds of those for whom these programs couldn't keep their promises ended up experiencing greater psychological, emotional and spiritual distress than when they started. The APA has basically said that such therapies should really be discouraged and undertaken ONLY when the client fully understands that it will likely be completely unsuccessful and probably do more harm than good. http://www.truthwinsout.org/ex-gay-consumer-f... So tell me, when you went down this path, did they tell you the truth about the bill of goods they were selling you, or did they just promise to turn you straight? rob mon wrote: secondly you haven`t answered my question is homosexuality a way of reproduction in animals since all animals reproduce the heterosexual way? Dear, even you have to be bright enough to understand that among the human species the chance of reproduction directly resulting from homosexual sex is as about as close to zero as you're going to get. Simply because homosexual sex is really, really, really, really unlikely to result in offspring shouldn't be confused with your fantasy that this somehow implies nature therefore abhors homosexual sex and/or the homosexuals responsible for most of it. Homosexual sex and/or individuals that are exclusively same sex attracted occurs in nature because nature has reasons for them to be there. rob mon wrote: thirdly nobody knows whether it is healthy for the child to have parents of same sex and I don`t think so because a mum or a dad can't be replaced. Actually, MANY people know whether it is healthy for the child to have parents of the same sex. This isn't a phenomena that just popped up a couple of years ago, same sex couples have actually been raising children for a couple of generations now. It's been studied for years now. Children of same sex couples are no better and no worse off than the children of an opposite sex couple. A good home is a good home and a strong family is a strong family, it really doesn't matter if it is being headed by two people of the opposite sex or two people of the same sex. Sure you'll find a bunch of unqualified hacks who rant and rave about the dangers of same sex parents, but if you look at the work of those who have actually studied this, you won't find ANY that say that there are ANY inherent problems to having parents of the same sex. There you have it, conversion therapy is nothing more than a probably dangerous fraud (like every other 'cure' that has been foisted upon us), nature abhors neither homosexual sex nor individuals who are same sex attracted, it created them to meet the needs of their species and whoever told you that same sex couples are by nature lousy parents basically lied to you. If you wish to continue to try to change your sexual orientation, more power to you, you're going to need it, but I can't leave without saying that I'm sorry that you feel the need to kill off that part of yourself in order to hopefully replace it with feelings that were never intended to be there. Simply because you happen to be same sex attracted or even that you act upon those attractions isn't an illness, disorder, or whatever, it is merely a part of who you are as a person. You're looking for a mythical cure from an alleged illness that doesn't really exist.
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Travis
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Rick in Kansas wrote: <quoted text>So you claim, but the one peer reviewed longitudinal study of the effectiveness of faith based conversion programs found a success (defined as elimination of same sex attractions) rate over five years of roughly 3%, all of whom were or had become employees of these various groups. That's a NINETY-SEVEN PERCENT FAILURE RATE. Then you can add to that little problem the fact that two-thirds of those for whom these programs couldn't keep their promises ended up experiencing greater psychological, emotional and spiritual distress than when they started. The APA has basically said that such therapies should really be discouraged and undertaken ONLY when the client fully understands that it will likely be completely unsuccessful and probably do more harm than good. http://www.truthwinsout.org/ex-gay-consumer-f... So tell me, when you went down this path, did they tell you the truth about the bill of goods they were selling you, or did they just promise to turn you straight? <quoted text>Dear, even you have to be bright enough to understand that among the human species the chance of reproduction directly resulting from homosexual sex is as about as close to zero as you're going to get. Simply because homosexual sex is really, really, really, really unlikely to result in offspring shouldn't be confused with your fantasy that this somehow implies nature therefore abhors homosexual sex and/or the homosexuals responsible for most of it. Homosexual sex and/or individuals that are exclusively same sex attracted occurs in nature because nature has reasons for them to be there. <quoted text>Actually, MANY people know whether it is healthy for the child to have parents of the same sex. This isn't a phenomena that just popped up a couple of years ago, same sex couples have actually been raising children for a couple of generations now. It's been studied for years now. Children of same sex couples are no better and no worse off than the children of an opposite sex couple. A good home is a good home and a strong family is a strong family, it really doesn't matter if it is being headed by two people of the opposite sex or two people of the same sex. Sure you'll find a bunch of unqualified hacks who rant and rave about the dangers of same sex parents, but if you look at the work of those who have actually studied this, you won't find ANY that say that there are ANY inherent problems to having parents of the same sex. There you have it, conversion therapy is nothing more than a probably dangerous fraud (like every other 'cure' that has been foisted upon us), nature abhors neither homosexual sex nor individuals who are same sex attracted, it created them to meet the needs of their species and whoever told you that same sex couples are by nature lousy parents basically lied to you. If you wish to continue to try to change your sexual orientation, more power to you, you're going to need it, but I can't leave without saying that I'm sorry that you feel the need to kill off that part of yourself in order to hopefully replace it with feelings that were never intended to be there. Simply because you happen to be same sex attracted or even that you act upon those attractions isn't an illness, disorder, or whatever, it is merely a part of who you are as a person. You're looking for a mythical cure from an alleged illness that doesn't really exist. It is very much a sickness.
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“Does not play well ”
Since: Nov 07
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Travis wrote: It is very much a sickness. According to whom? Certainly not according to those who have studied it and not according to any of the major professional associations in the fields of medicine, psychology, psychiatry or sociology and social work, which have all publicly said, more or less, that you can't even fake having a clue. So tell us, oh enlightened one (snicker), what can you offer as proof that hasn't already been shot down many, many times before?
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Adi
Frankfurt Am Main, Germany
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Watch this on youtube. Lot Sodom & Jesus Return to Planet Earth
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Adi
Frankfurt Am Main, Germany
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@Rick In Kansas Truth to be told If you faggots like it or not. Gay guys sex is.... immoral filthy disgusting sick perverted nasty abnormal damned evil dirty unholy shameless unjustified ugly stupid fake wrong strange Dangerous cancer HIV Aids shitty Garbage self-destructive dumb useless mindless weak disease devilish an abominable sin horrible scum Sodom senseless parasitic an disgrace
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“Does not play well ”
Since: Nov 07
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Adi wrote: (nothing worth repeating) You know Adolf, meine kleine Kartoffelknödel, for someone who finds the concept of man on man enjoyment, whether it involves the involvement of actual homosexuals or not, so self-professed distasteful, etc., you sure do spend more time thinking about it than most actual homosexuals. Just sayin'. Now go back in your closet, psych ward, or whatever hole you crawled from, maybe the adults and the sane want to talk.
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Being gay is no more wrong than being straight.
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Adam wrote: <quoted text>
I don´t think so. Read the article above and stfu. Moron Gosh! Who licked the red off your peppermint?! I must have struck a nerve. Here are some threads everyone should check out: Mayor Alvin Brown's position on human rights ordinance could be tricky http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jacksonville-... Letters from readers: Equal, not special, rights http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jacksonville-... Waffle House Customers Assaulted; Crime Stoppers Wants Tips http://www.topix.com/forum/columbus/T4IB0287Q... 2 Men Beaten Inside Waffle House http://www.topix.com/forum/columbus/TM3GAK6NK...
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“Does not play well ”
Since: Nov 07
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Adam wrote: @Rick in Kansas
Ricky boy you got loss of reality. I think you could need a doctor. Oh Adolf, Adolf, Adolf, ever insightful as always. Yes, it is I who suffer from "loss of reality", not the homosexually obsessed, self-professed heterosexual; desperately trying to save us with religion, any religion, while imagining himself as speaking on behalf of "god". If that be reality, thank whichever "god" you're trying to save us with today that I am losing it. I know I shouldn't be making fun of the mentally ill, buttercup, but you work so hard for the abuse, I just can't turn you down.
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immmaaaa gay girl
Oakland, CA
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wukong wrote: <quoted text>
a lot of people think liver is gross....doesn't mean it's wrong.
a lot of people think oral sex is gross....but that doesn't mean it's wrong....and it CERTAINLY isn't going to stop anyone.
if your agrument is "if men were meant to have sex, there would be a compatible opening"........for them, there IS a compatible opening. I love you<3 I agree totally. Ahah
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Since: Nov 07
Salina, KS
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Silent_______Assassin wrote: Leviticus 18:22. There. It does not matter, because you do not want to be convinced. Convinced of what? That a bronze age text contains a prohibition on male on male sex? That would be proof of what exactly? That according to your choice of religious beliefs, you claim "God" disapproves. So? Silent_______Assassin wrote: I can show you all the science evidence, all the suicides relative to homosexuality, all the studies of pathology, the mental disorders and how it is not found anywhere in nature as an innate sexual orientation, and you will still make the choice. Your scientific evidence proves that rates of depression and other mental illness, as well as suicides, are higher among people who are Lesbian and Gay, this evidence does NOT prove is that these problems exist because a person is Lesbian or Gay. Quite the contrary actually. The empirical scientific evidence has long been that being homosexual is not in and itself a disorder nor would it make you susceptible to other disorders. So why are those rates higher? There are a number of studies which point at one major causal factor, having to deal with people like the one you're forced to look at in the mirror. Either badly educated or willing to just flat out lie for their 'cause'. Silent_______Assassin wrote: I can show you study after study showing absent father, abusive siblings, mom and dad, same sex child abuse and the high rate that lead to homosexuality in adults and you will choose to disregard it. Because such studies are out of date and incredibly biased. Ridiculous one size fits all explanations like we learned it from a bad family are just plain insulting. While causality has yet to be proved, the consensus among those who study in this area is that it is as the result of yet unidentified genetic and biological factors which essentially pre-program basic attractions that are later effected by external factors during development. Someone learns to be 'straight' or 'gay' because they were meant to. Silent_______Assassin wrote: So, Leviticus 18:22 will do and if not, I will assume that you are into sex with your dog because Leviticus 18:23 prohibits that. Do you live according to all the laws and commandments set forth in Leviticus and other Old Testament works? The one which is repeated most often is the warning that you have to obey ALL of them, so it is a rather important question. Because according to the Book you're quoting from, if YOU'RE not obeying ALL of them, saying that someone else is breaking them is frowned upon. So, is there any real point in telling us that the verse is even there?
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“Does not play well ”
Since: Nov 07
Salina, KS
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Silent_______Assassin wrote: How clever, did you manage to think that up alllll by yourself? Oh, that's right, you ripped it off from me, change a couple of words and hope I don't make too much fun of you. Unless that is you're into that and are one of those weirdos around here who get off on being verbally abused by strong gay men? You;re done wasting my time if tis was really the best you could do.
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A atheist
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homosexuality can never be right the human race is of survival i woudnt be here and so woudnt you if our parents are homosexual
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“This planet is”
Since: Jun 12
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Humans are animals...
Even though no other animal exhibits homosexuality(not including humans and some domesticated animals), it's not wrong at all...
You cant prove it's wrong...
Coz it isn't wrong...
The End...
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A atheist wrote: homosexuality can never be right the human race is of survival i woudnt be here and so woudnt you if our parents are homosexual And the sound we are hearing is the collective weeping of the English teachers of "Sydney, Australia. Wow. You do realize that the survival of the human race has never been dependent on full capacity breeding, don't you? In every generation there are those heterosexuals (sometimes in large numbers) who can't, won't or don't procreate and yet we the humans survive. Why now the hang up about it when homosexuals want to be homosexuals?
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Since: Nov 07
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Alexander of Earth wrote: Humans are animals... So far, so good. Alexander of Earth wrote: Even though no other animal exhibits homosexuality(not including humans and some domesticated animals), it's not wrong at all... I'm glad that even though the directions somebody gave you aren't quite right, you still got there. Everything from same sex sexual behavior for entertainment purposes and other forms of same sex sexual social behaviors(the most frequent) to full on same sex 'mating' pairs in species of birds which usually do so for life and even taking active part in the survival of future generations by raising raising the offspring of others.(relatively uncommon). It's been observed in animals that have been domesticated, in captivity and even in the wild. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_... It's the Wikipedia (partial?) list of the species which 'display homosexual behavior', you have to decide for yourself what and how much it all means. Alexander of Earth wrote: You cant prove it's wrong...
Coz it isn't wrong...
The End... People speak of right and wrong as if there were just one of each. That's one thing human evolution hasn't given us, for better or worse. Anything can be justified as 'right' or 'wrong', simply depending on how you are asking yourself the question. You say you live in Russia, you of all people should have learned this from experience. Like anything else, whatever in the heck you are calling 'homosexuality' can and does simultaneously exists as right AND wrong, simply depending on how you are asking yourself the question. How a society copes with mutually exclusive answers is what tells. On the list of countries and how well they cope with homosexuality being both right and wrong at the very same moment and the actual homosexuals caught in that conundrum, the US would be somewhere in the middle. How's Russia? What do you do after you answer that question?
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Adam
Frankfurt Am Main, Germany
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@Rick in Kansas
I don´t mind to break this to you once again.
I Corinthians 6:9:
"The unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God. So do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the realm of God."
I Timothy 1:9-10:
"Law is not made for a righteous person but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and fornicators and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound (healthy) teaching."
Deuteronomy 23:17-18
There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
1 Kings 14:22, 24
And Judah did evil in the sight of the LORD, and they provoked him to jealousy with their sins which they had committed, above all that their fathers had done.
And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel.
1 Kings 15:11-12
And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father.
And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.
1 Kings 22:42-46
Jehoshaphat was thirty and five years old when he began to reign; and he reigned twenty and five years in Jerusalem....
And he walked in all the ways of Asa his father; he turned not aside from it, doing that which was right in the eyes of the LORD:...
And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.
2 Kings 23:3, 7
And the king stood by a pillar, and made a covenant before the LORD, to walk after the LORD, and to keep his commandments and his testimonies and his statutes with all their heart and all their soul, to perform the words of this covenant that were written in this book. And all the people stood to the covenant.
And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.
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“This planet is”
Since: Jun 12
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Biology Fact:
Some reptiles and amphibians are able to reproduce without males, however all of the offspring will be female. Not to slow down evolution, this only happens when the female can't find a mate...
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