fascism is

It is a left wing ideology, but is too broad of a topic to discuss in its entirety. Let's give specific aspects of fascism first and debunk them or prove them right.

A left wing ideology. First give specific aspects then let's discuss those.

Crap, I didn't mean to post twice. It wasn't showing up that I posted the first one, so I wrote another.

I don't mean to sound dumb or whatever but what IS the exact definition of fascism? Seriously, I'm not being a sarcastic azz or anything.

BeautifulMomof2 wrote:

I don't mean to sound dumb or whatever but what IS the exact definition of fascism? Seriously, I'm not being a sarcastic azz or anything.

Here are a few:

A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition

A system of government that promotes extreme nationalism, repression, anticommunism, and is ruled by a dictator

a political system in which all power of government is vested in a person or group with no other power to balance and limit the activities of the government. Fascist governments are often closely associated with large corporations and sometimes with extreme nationalism and racist activities

Now I ask you. Does that sound like anything we have going on right now?

All WORLD Ruling elites/World govts' will have thier evil agendas : whether it Communist, Fascist, Quasi-democracratic, a Replubic... all mad man-made hidden progandistic systems/ideologies will have its problems...

rollin wrote:

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Here are a few:
A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition
A system of government that promotes extreme nationalism, repression, anticommunism, and is ruled by a dictator
a political system in which all power of government is vested in a person or group with no other power to balance and limit the activities of the government. Fascist governments are often closely associated with large corporations and sometimes with extreme nationalism and racist activities
Now I ask you. Does that sound like anything we have going on right now?

That sounds pretty good, but some aspects are a country by country characteristic. For example, racism is not necessarily a fascist trait. Now keep in mind, I realize that you said SOME, I am simply letting others know. But any way, NAZI Germany was as everybody knows extremely racist towards pretty much any race not Aryan. But especially the Jews. Germany's fascism was more based upon race and creating a pure race. Hitler used the Jews as a scapegoat through propaganda to control the masses which is common among fascist regimes. However, the Fascist party of Italy was not racist. In fact they for a while had Jews serving in their government. And Mussolini refused to put the Jews into concentration camps.(That didn't stop Hitler). Mussolini's fascism was based more upon extreme Nationalism and complete will to the state. It was he who said, "everything within the state, nothing outside of the state". But despite these differences, all fascist regimes center around extreme authority in the hands of a few as rollin said.

Do you know that "Fascism and Capitalism" (depends on the leaders; from implementing a soft or hard forms of fascism) are interrelated and often have its evil hidden devices and its progandistic impact controls on you ol' lil brains; you can not easily escape from it.

WORLD IDIOT ONES wrote:

Do you know that "Fascism and Capitalism" (depends on the leaders; from implementing a soft or hard forms of fascism) are interrelated and often have its evil hidden devices and its progandistic impact controls on you ol' lil brains; you can not easily escape from it.

Please explain.

sup wrote:

It is a left wing ideology, but is too broad of a topic to discuss in its entirety. Let's give specific aspects of fascism first and debunk them or prove them right.

Actually Fascism is right ring of the political sprectrum

Ugly Profitering/WAR-for-Profit Enterprises of the Profit Enterprises of the ruling elites!
Just an example of corrupted political system!
Yes but capitalism and communism, both comes at a price! Don't prefer any mad man-made institutions/ideologies all have its evil agendas!(You probably know little more about communism.)
Capitalism and its relationship with Fascism!
If capitalism is not checked it can and often will lead to fascism! But, few people understand what capitalism can do and its evils. Just short brief history! And, Bush family, Prescott Bush (You do know about him, Blue Eyes!) also capitalistic pigs, had business OIL business dealing with the NAZI during WW2. There is a close and often ignored relationship between fascism and capitalism. German corporations financed Hitler's rise to power and were rewarded by slave labor. Krupp, I.G. Farben and other corporations used Slavic and Jewish slave labor. And before civil right Act 1964-5 the American comapanys invested heavily in Nazi Germany, like Ford and GM had factories there with the help of US gov't. Ford and GM which also used slave labor and produced war materials for the Nazis. And some of many US company investment into Germany to aid speeded rapidly after Hitler came to power . And, US oil companies sold oil to the Nazis and oil to fascists in Spain on credit.
So, before Civil Rights Act of 1964-5 , we have two tiered system : the colored people who see it as fascist state without opportunity in most part of America and Whites see as capitalistic ideological system . If vote in Ron Paul and let his right fring extremist groups take over they will not acknowledge and denied the Reaffirmation of the Civil Right Acts! More like FreeDOOM for America!

Read Up And be awaken!
Capitalism and Fascism by Bruno Rauecker, Confederazione Generale Dell'Industria Italiana, Wilhelm Utermann (1972).

So does this educate you and awaken to possible dangers of any mad man-made systems and it impact controls?

Think of what you can do with a educational system teach evil idealogies even fascism, communism, fanatisilm... if not controlled or even regulated ... So who laughing know Blacken BLUE EYES!

But you have to live with one, so it will be capitalism, but must have some controls to keep from spiraling away either to far left or right of the spectrum!!!

And another example, the most recent atrocities Bush-Cheney War-for-profit enterprises Bush stays in Iraq in defiance will of majority of Americans and Iraqis, in defiance of all reason or logic, unless the Enormous profits being realized, at the taxpayer's expense. The rest of their shifting reasons are just a smokescreen. War-for-profitering enterprises are utilization of security companies like Halliburton's KBR and Blackwater to perform duties previously assigned to the Marines. These "corporate warriors" are paid as much as $1,000 per day, and the CEOs, executives of these companies are richly rewarded.

John Reed, WWI newspaperman was asked what that war was all about. He answered with one word: "profits."

Just a tip of iceberg - go do some research.

Excuse - Just take out the sentence - that part were addressed to Blue Eyes.

WORLD IDIOT ONES wrote:

Ugly Profitering/WAR-for-Profit Enterprises of the Profit Enterprises of the ruling elites!
Just an example of corrupted political system!
Yes but capitalism and communism, both comes at a price! Don't prefer any mad man-made institutions/ideologies all have its evil agendas!(You probably know little more about communism.)
Capitalism and its relationship with Fascism!
If capitalism is not checked it can and often will lead to fascism! But, few people understand what capitalism can do and its evils. Just short brief history! And, Bush family, Prescott Bush (You do know about him, Blue Eyes!) also capitalistic pigs, had business OIL business dealing with the NAZI during WW2. There is a close and often ignored relationship between fascism and capitalism. German corporations financed Hitler's rise to power and were rewarded by slave labor. Krupp, I.G. Farben and other corporations used Slavic and Jewish slave labor. And before civil right Act 1964-5 the American comapanys invested heavily in Nazi Germany, like Ford and GM had factories there with the help of US gov't. Ford and GM which also used slave labor and produced war materials for the Nazis. And some of many US company investment into Germany to aid speeded rapidly after Hitler came to power . And, US oil companies sold oil to the Nazis and oil to fascists in Spain on credit.
So, before Civil Rights Act of 1964-5 , we have two tiered system : the colored people who see it as fascist state without opportunity in most part of America and Whites see as capitalistic ideological system . If vote in Ron Paul and let his right fring extremist groups take over they will not acknowledge and denied the Reaffirmation of the Civil Right Acts! More like FreeDOOM for America!
Read Up And be awaken!
Capitalism and Fascism by Bruno Rauecker, Confederazione Generale Dell'Industria Italiana, Wilhelm Utermann (1972).
So does this educate you and awaken to possible dangers of any mad man-made systems and it impact controls?
Think of what you can do with a educational system teach evil idealogies even fascism, communism, fanatisilm... if not controlled or even regulated ... So who laughing know Blacken BLUE EYES!
But you have to live with one, so it will be capitalism, but must have some controls to keep from spiraling away either to far left or right of the spectrum!!!
And another example, the most recent atrocities Bush-Cheney War-for-profit enterprises Bush stays in Iraq in defiance will of majority of Americans and Iraqis, in defiance of all reason or logic, unless the Enormous profits being realized, at the taxpayer's expense. The rest of their shifting reasons are just a smokescreen. War-for-profitering enterprises are utilization of security companies like Halliburton's KBR and Blackwater to perform duties previously assigned to the Marines. These "corporate warriors" are paid as much as $1,000 per day, and the CEOs, executives of these companies are richly rewarded.
John Reed, WWI newspaperman was asked what that war was all about. He answered with one word: "profits."
Just a tip of iceberg - go do some research.

Ah but it's not really capitalism if the government regulates the corporations. Economically fascism is a third way between socialism and capitalism. Hitler attacked capitalism in Mein Kampf, and was a socialist. They found Marxism to be an impractical way of achieving their goal of socialism, so they resorted to allowing industry, but at the same time imposing heavy regulations to serve the common good. Communism eliminates private property to "help" the common good and fascism regulates private property to "help" the common good. Both the same end, just a different means essentially.

WORLD IDIOT ONES wrote:

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Actually Fascism is right ring of the political sprectrum

How so? Let's have a real adult political discussion. No hurling insults, etc. Just straight talk.

This page is a collection of news articles dating from the start of the Bush presidency divided into topics relating to each of the 14 points of fascism.

http://oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

Ozzie wrote:

This page is a collection of news articles dating from the start of the Bush presidency divided into topics relating to each of the 14 points of fascism.
http://oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

Ah, and did the Bush administration create all those support our troops products. Did he have Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity write their books. Disdain for human rights? Didn't Truman drop the atomic bomb? That seems to be in clear violation of "human rights", but you don't see the right attacking him for it. Didn't FDR put Japanese in internment camps? Didn't Woodrow Wilson start the first propaganda ministry? Wilson hired a publicist, George Creel, to head the "Committee on Public Information" (CPI)-- a propaganda ministry with the sole purpose of "selling the war." CPI produced films, pamphlets, curriculum guides -- all designed to "paint Germany in a bad light."
source:
http://www.chicora.org/woodrow_wilson.htm

FDR started the the Blue Eagle.
And religion? Hitler was an Atheist. And you often see modern progressives glorifying the government and how it can solve the problems for everyone. It is a secularist worship of government.

sup wrote:

<quoted text>Ah but it's not really capitalism if the government regulates the corporations. Economically fascism is a third way between socialism and capitalism. Hitler attacked capitalism in Mein Kampf, and was a socialist. They found Marxism to be an impractical way of achieving their goal of socialism, so they resorted to allowing industry, but at the same time imposing heavy regulations to serve the common good. Communism eliminates private property to "help" the common good and fascism regulates private property to "help" the common good. Both the same end, just a different means essentially.

Interesting topic - Problem is terminology over time have been miscontrued and wringed over time; even academician, economist... sometimes are confused and used incorrectly.


Answer to your previous 2 posts

Somewhat you misread. Just mention Capitalisism is interrelated with fascism. But, as many American politicians/ruling elite/govt, us of devious approach, who advocate less or more total government control over economic activity have and advocate the same policies, but they have always recognized that direct attacks on free enterprise, private properties, self-government, and individual freedom that are not politically palatable most orf the majority of American voter. Thus, enacted regulatory, many tax and income-transfer policies so to achieve the ends of economic fascism. AS you know Politicins /ruling elites Use deceptive practice , propagandist tools, devices and "SUGAR-COATED with deceptive rhetorics... which real alleged desire only to &#8220;save&#8221; capitalism.

And, some of right advocate "laissez faire capitalism" thats toward minarchism, that is few to little govt intervention in the economy other than police function and to control the money supply and little taxation except to support military .

The relationship between the state and corporations that support the state is often termed &#8220;state capitalism.&#8221; Though there are others terms, like corporatism, that are also used, state capitalism fully denotes the illegal use of the state to fund capitalism.
In state capitalism, the power of the state is used to create favorable legislation that rewards the politically well connected with legal plunder by eliminating or reducing competition and requiring that certain products be purchased or funded. State capitalism is the antithesis to free market capitalism. As Murray Rothbard denotes in A Future of Peace and Capitalism, &#8220;The difference between free-market capitalism and state capitalism is precisely the difference between, on the one hand, peaceful, voluntary exchange, and on the other, violent expropriation.&#8221; Mr. Rothbard shows that claims that capitalism is always the result of free market activity are not necessarily true, and any claims that any capitalistic activity is the result of free market policies needs to be judged solely on objective criteria of the free market itself. "
Which somewhat you misread, But,fascism do have a interrelationship with Capitalism (does have little govt intervention, depending on ruling elites evil agendas for the nation!) are deceptive in approach that Politicans/ruling elites/govt rhethoric are using "Sugar-coated" with hidden propaginstic to fool the lowly world populace. As all form of political system have gov't intervention (More Or Less) into our lives , whether socially, economically, polically.... Its thier evil progandisticagendas, we as world populace have to beaware! Caveat Emptor!

SUP,
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So not only do the majority in the Noah's flood poll believe that it actually happened, but the majority here think that fascism is a far left ideology?

Your country is doomed Yanks.

WORLD IDIOT ONES wrote:

SUP,
Sorry WP encoder corruption problem. The number '8220' should be replaced with a quote sign ( " ")- Must viral infection. Time to clean computer, lLook like need a new Word processor? Any good one?

I still got Microsoft word 95 that I'm running on my Vista. It's a lot faster and cheaper than buying all the upgrades.