should 15yr old's being charged as adult

i think it all depends on the way and why and if there sane.

Felonies? Yes

Misdemeanor crimes that involve no victim. No Ones that do involve a victim, then yes.

depends on the severity of the crime they commit.

What if a girl that was 13 at the time of the murder was being abused and ran away many time's and the court keep sending her back thinking she was just a bad kid and then she murdered her grandmother just to get out and her grandfather was a wack job she should be try ed as a juvenile
not a adult.

And the girl has real bipolar and ADHD and anger problems due to the abuse. And was used as a slave for 12 yrs. I think being charged as adult is just plane wrong.

sarah wrote:

What if a girl that was 13 at the time of the murder was being abused and ran away many time's and the court keep sending her back thinking she was just a bad kid and then she murdered her grandmother just to get out and her grandfather was a wack job she should be try ed as a juvenile
not a adult.

Nope, if it's manslaughter due to self-defense that's an entire different thing than murder and it carries a much less severe sentence. Still a felony, but not a capital felony. Tried as an adult.

sarah wrote:

And the girl has real bipolar and ADHD and anger problems due to the abuse. And was used as a slave for 12 yrs. I think being charged as adult is just plane wrong.

If this kid has all those mitigating circumstances then that's a different situation. This kid should be institutionalized until she's treated for ALL those things that are wrong. That could be a long time. She is obviously not normal by anyones standards.

This is usually done for adults as well.

on murder only. Only a strong penalty will make young people think twice about commiting the ultimate crime....maybe that's why the cowards have been commiting suicide before they get caught.
peace everyone and a happy new year.

Nope 15 yo aren't adults. Why should a 15 yo be charged as an adult when they don't get all the benefits of being an adult?

Ronnnie wrote:

Nope 15 yo aren't adults. Why should a 15 yo be charged as an adult when they don't get all the benefits of being an adult?

What benefits are you referring to? Voting? Drinking? Being drafted by the military? Having to get a job to survive? Having a family? Common sense?

Which one of these "benefits" or even the total of these "benefits" out weighs the commission of the ulimate crime?

Why should they be tried as an adult? Simple, resposibility. If they have the ability and desire to kill as a child, is that going to change just because they are getting the "benefits" of a adult later? Does the age of the criminal make the death of another human less of a crime? Felony = full penalty for all.

arafat wrote:

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What benefits are you referring to? Voting? Drinking? Being drafted by the military? Having to get a job to survive? Having a family? Common sense?
Which one of these "benefits" or even the total of these "benefits" out weighs the commission of the ulimate crime?
Why should they be tried as an adult? Simple, resposibility. If they have the ability and desire to kill as a child, is that going to change just because they are getting the "benefits" of a adult later? Does the age of the criminal make the death of another human less of a crime? Felony = full penalty for all.

It isn't fair to expect children to be tried as an adult, if there not aloud to consent for sex or drink alcohol etc. Theres brain aren't fully developed, they are still changing. Even if they do commit a serious crime there a chance they can change and give a meaningful contribution to society. I think theres far better options then throwing some one who's 15 into an adult prison, where they are obviously going to be abused and ultimately come out of the system with an outlook to do more bad things.

Ronnnie wrote:

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It isn't fair to expect children to be tried as an adult, if there not aloud to consent for sex or drink alcohol etc. Theres brain aren't fully developed, they are still changing. Even if they do commit a serious crime there a chance they can change and give a meaningful contribution to society. I think theres far better options then throwing some one who's 15 into an adult prison, where they are obviously going to be abused and ultimately come out of the system with an outlook to do more bad things.

You're serious aren't you?????...I wish I could look at the world with the same naiveness as you....

YES!!!! Th law is the law, age has nothing to do with it.

do the crime, do the time. a 15 year old should have no trouble grasping this concept.

Ronnnie wrote:

Nope 15 yo aren't adults. Why should a 15 yo be charged as an adult when they don't get all the benefits of being an adult?

Exactly! It's a double standard. They slam "kids" for making bad decisions, but they would never consider rewarding/granting the good, responsible kids with adult privieges. There have been recent studies that have concluded that teens brains are not fully "developed" and that teens do not possess the same level of decision-making abilities (weighing action against consequence) as adults do. They treat them like adults, yet they are operating with a child-level brain.

15 yr olds know what right vs wrong is. Ask them. If a felony is committed - yes treat them as adults. They have no excuse.

15 year old kids should be tried as what they are, 15 year old kids.

arafat wrote:

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If this kid has all those mitigating circumstances then that's a different situation. This kid should be institutionalized until she's treated for ALL those things that are wrong. That could be a long time. She is obviously not normal by anyones standards.
This is usually done for adults as well.

I agree this child need's help in a institution
untill she's at least 21 not to be put in jail she wont get the help she so badly need's for her to act out this way she must have problems and what about the people who made her this way shoukd they be held accontable for what they did to her to make her crazy or what she was 13 at the time my 13yr old wouldnt even think like that
what kind of people where they. i think this was in the paper in toledo there's ganna be more in it
all the truth will come out will just have to see
what about the victums family how do they feel about all of this. WE wood like to know do they think she should be tryed as a adult.mmmmmmmm

well that changes every thing she was only 13 at the time what the hell! She was just a baby
some thing had to be happening for a girl at this age to go off like that. This really needs to be looked in to really hard. I have a 14yr old daughter and
shes nothin like that and all her friends dont think about stuff like that. OMG where there other children in the house. 13yr old girls do not think like that. Im so sorry for the family.

Charge as an adult, but let the Judge determine the sentence, taking all circumstances in account, like the type of crime, mental capacity, etc. Apply the human factor to the situation, instead of a one size fits all.