Is homosexuality a sin?

Created by Travis Morgan on Oct 27, 2007

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Since: Nov 09

USA

#64862 Jun 26, 2012
JDubbizback wrote:
<quoted text> OKay, I have read each and every one of your biased information... is this supposed to make me change my ways? change something that I can't. Yeah, I could marry a woman and live a boring bland retarded ass life lying to myself day in a day out that I enjoy women and what they have to offer when they don't interest me in the least. I'm not going to do something just so you will be pleased and I'm the one that has to suffer in the end so you will live life happily ever after and I won't, correct? Yeah right, gtf outta here with that bs!
You'r not only bitter, but yer delusional.....

Since: Nov 09

USA

#64863 Jun 26, 2012
Lily the aborter wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again...plagiarized, outdated info found on biased websites.
Yer jes another dispicable sycophant abortion advocate...

Since: Nov 09

USA

#64864 Jun 26, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. if you have the unusual dietary practice of dipping spinach into peanut butter, is your behavior abnormal ??..
.. let's classify homophobia as abnormal behavior - advocate and put into praxis a reparative/conversation therapy for bigots since their behavior is abnormal in today's culture ..
.. you're making a judgement based on your beliefs and do not have evidence. If homosexuality is abnormal behavior then all homosexuals must be malfunctioning members of society. They're not ..
.. why are you so damn silly ??..
The argument you make is based on emotions only... NOT FACTS. To illustrate further, to make sense of yer argument, then you should also justify people running across the interstate, for fun. Yes, there are people who do that all the time. But I wouldn't recommend playing on the interstate, as its hazardous to yer health, just like homosexuality is harmful. But it seems yer willing to pretend homosexuality is just as innocuous as having blue eyes, or brown eyes.... Ha!

Its not because homosexuals can't physically function in their created purpose. Its that they choose to debase themselves in such a way that cheapens their humanity.

Its absolute absurdity for you to equate homosexuality with heterosexuality, as tho they'r comparable alternatives... History proves that the results are quite stark, on many levels.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#64865 Jun 26, 2012
Ds Higgins1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You'r not only bitter, but yer delusional.....
I'm sure JDubbizback will take that conclusion under advisement! LOL!!!
JDubbizback

Benson, NC

#64866 Jun 26, 2012
Roadrunner wrote:
You have a lack of comprehension skills, don't you?
He wrote:
"
JDubbizback wrote:
<quoted text> Oh shut up you moron, you know nothing just like the rest. Why do you even bother trying... Your wasting our time because we don't believe nothing that comes from you or the other homophic religiously retarded posters. I'm a Christian and I'm gay. Who are you to tell me that I'm not a Christian? Absolutely nobody! Your Christian beliefs have been twisted and distorted by man's own bigoted ways and twisted what the scriptures really say about homosexuality... that it is not condemned and never was. Get your fact straight before you talk."
He was referring to a particular poster who claims to be Christian, but states by THEIR words that they are homophobic, and seems to be able to tell people they cannot be Christian based on their sexuality. And he also stated that homosexuals cannot be Christian, which is a lie. And there are other posters on this thread who act the same way. He himself is (the poster YOU'RE referring to) Christian. He wasn't referring to all Christians in general. Just the idiot ones, like on this thread, who are total Fundies, who want to keep rights away from the LGBT community using their hatred, homophobia and supposed religion.
Learn to read and comprehend.<quoted text>
Awww, ok... now I comprehende. LOL

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#64867 Jun 26, 2012
Ds Higgins1 wrote:
<quoted text>To illustrate further, to make sense of yer argument, then you should also justify people running across the interstate, for fun. Yes, there are people who do that all the time.
.. would you consider playing on an interstate abnormal behavior? I certainly would ..
Ds Higgins1 wrote:
<quoted text>
But I wouldn't recommend playing on the interstate, as its hazardous to yer health, just like homosexuality is harmful.
.. rest assured, my health is not in jeopardy ..
Ds Higgins1 wrote:
<quoted text>But it seems yer willing to pretend homosexuality is just as innocuous as having blue eyes, or brown eyes.... Ha!
.. why are you changing focus? Aren't be debating what today's society considers normal and abnormal behavior ??..
Ds Higgins1 wrote:
<quoted text>But it seems yer willing to pretend homosexuality is just as innocuous as having blue eyes, or brown eyes.... Ha!
.. another attempt to change focus ..
Ds Higgins1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Its not because homosexuals can't physically function in their created purpose. Its that they choose to debase themselves in such a way that cheapens their humanity.
.. another attempt to change focus ..
Ds Higgins1 wrote:
<quoted text>Its absolute absurdity for you to equate homosexuality with heterosexuality, as tho they'r comparable alternatives...
.. still another attempt to change focus ..
Ds Higgins1 wrote:
<quoted text>History proves that the results are quite stark, on many levels.
.. and, your last attempt to change focus ..

.. my evidence and logic is overwhelming. Your evidence is based on an emotion and belief ..

.. you've been schooled by a lesbian. Again.
All you can do is change focus. Whooped your sorry butt ..

.. homosexuality is a normal and accepted sexual identity in today's culture ..

.. you must want me ..

Since: Nov 09

USA

#64868 Jun 26, 2012
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sure JDubbizback will take that conclusion under advisement! LOL!!!
heh heh heh....

Ya think so, really??
Bob

Tenino, WA

#64869 Jun 26, 2012
S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
San Francisco police have arrested veteran gay rights advocate Larry Brinkin in connection with felony possession of child pornography.

Brinkin, 66, who worked for the San Francisco Human Rights Commission before his retirement in 2010, was taken into custody Friday night. He spent the night in jail before he was released on bail, according to a spokeswoman for the sheriff’s department.

The district attorney’s office will decide Tuesday whether to file charges.“We’re still reviewing the case,” district attorney’s spokeswoman Stephanie Ong Stillman said Monday.
Police say that Brinkin had pornographic
images, some that appear to show children as young as 1 and 2 or 3 years old being sodomized and performing oral sex on adult men, in e-mail attachments linked to his account, according to a search warrant served by San Francisco police.
Representatives of America Online contacted authorities after coming across e-mail attachments from one of its subscriber’s accounts containing what they believed to be child pornography.

The Los Angeles Police Department, which was assigned to the case, traced the IP address associated with the account, Zack3737@aol.com, to Brinkin, a San Francisco resident, according to court records. Los Angeles police forwarded the case to San Francisco police.
Bob

Tenino, WA

#64871 Jun 26, 2012
The Chicago Department of Public Health reported that the percentage of Chicago AIDS diagnoses connected to homo/bisexual men increased from 37% in year 2000 to 44% in 2003; and in mid-2006 it also reported that homo/bisexual men accounted for approximately 73% of Chicago syphilis cases for the year 2005. And a September 2010 report from the Centers for Disease Control titled "HIV among Gay, Bisexual and Other Men Who Have Sex with Men (MSM)" noted: "Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM) represent approximately 2% of the US population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV and are the only risk group in which new HIV infections have been increasing steadily since the early 1990s....At the end of 2006, more than half (53%) of all people living with HIV in the United States were MSM or MSM-IDU [injection drug user]." And according to a CDC report released in November 2009, 63% of syphilis cases in this country were found in homo/bisexuals in 2008.

More than 80% of AIDS cases in Canada are among homosexual or bisexual males; other diseases suffered either exclusively, or in larger percentages by the homosexual population, include: anal cancer, chlamydia trachomatis, cryptosporidium, giardia lamblia, herpes simplex virus, HPV, gonorrhea, viral hepatitis B and C, and syphilis.”

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#64873 Jun 26, 2012
Bob wrote:
S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
San Francisco police have arrested veteran gay rights advocate Larry Brinkin in connection with felony possession of child pornography.
Brinkin, 66, who worked for the San Francisco Human Rights Commission before his retirement in 2010, was taken into custody Friday night. He spent the night in jail before he was released on bail, according to a spokeswoman for the sheriff’s department.
The district attorney’s office will decide Tuesday whether to file charges.“We’re still reviewing the case,” district attorney’s spokeswoman Stephanie Ong Stillman said Monday.
Police say that Brinkin had pornographic
images, some that appear to show children as young as 1 and 2 or 3 years old being sodomized and performing oral sex on adult men, in e-mail attachments linked to his account, according to a search warrant served by San Francisco police.
Representatives of America Online contacted authorities after coming across e-mail attachments from one of its subscriber’s accounts containing what they believed to be child pornography.
The Los Angeles Police Department, which was assigned to the case, traced the IP address associated with the account, Zack3737@aol.com, to Brinkin, a San Francisco resident, according to court records. Los Angeles police forwarded the case to San Francisco police.
Obviously this proves that all gay people are pedophiles, just as male predation on female children proves all straight people are pedophiles.

See Bob, this is why no one ever goes to you for a logical explanation of anything. Except maybe for Adam. BTW, Adam said he loves those new pics you've uploaded to Grindr. Being double-jointed can come in handy, can't it?

:)

Since: Nov 09

USA

#64874 Jun 26, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. would you consider playing on an interstate abnormal behavior? I certainly would ..
<quoted text>
.. rest assured, my health is not in jeopardy ..
<quoted text>
.. why are you changing focus? Aren't be debating what today's society considers normal and abnormal behavior ??..
<quoted text>
.. another attempt to change focus ..
<quoted text>
.. another attempt to change focus ..
<quoted text>
.. still another attempt to change focus ..
<quoted text>
.. and, your last attempt to change focus ..
.. my evidence and logic is overwhelming. Your evidence is based on an emotion and belief ..
.. you've been schooled by a lesbian. Again.
All you can do is change focus. Whooped your sorry butt ..
.. homosexuality is a normal and accepted sexual identity in today's culture ..
.. you must want me ..
HL, even after yer irrational conclusions about the subject at hand, yer obviously a very bright individual. Thats clearly evidenced by yer anxiousness to wave a victory flag, even as the facts prove otherwise. Its because you realize, intuitively, that yer phantom victory dance is the ONLY celebration to be had.... So go right ahead and have some imaginary champagne with that.... I'll even pay the imaginary tab for that bottle of white effervescent...:)

Since: Feb 12

Waxhaw, NC

#64875 Jun 26, 2012
Look, homosexuality is a sin. However, so is adultery, masturbation, lusting after a woman(man), theft and so on. As christians we are to love as God loved us. Gods love is agape, or desiring the good of another. We must understand that our ultimate goal here on earth is to fulfill God's will. His will is to ultimately have us live eternally within the trinity or "be in the presence of the beatific vision. The sin of homosexuality takes no higher place than any of the other sexual sins or perhaps any of the other sins committed when breaking one of the commandments. To love another as God loved us means we must desire that the one we love spend eternity in heaven with God. Therefore, we must pray that they come to recognize the truth about acting on same sex attraction( not the inclination), and that they can find a way to stop from committing the sin just as the gambler must stop gambling and the adulterer must stop cheating on his wife.

So, the fact is that we must actually try to be more charitable to our sisters and brothers in christ that struggle with same sex attraction. It is true that the only way we can help is if they accept that the act is a sin . In most situations that is not going to happen and therefore, again, our best practice as fellow christians is to pray for such people to recognize the sin and to ask God to help them change their ways.

Christian debate must be charitable at all times. That is a part of apologetical discourse. To be charitable the "argument" must not focus on winning the debate but bringing the person on the other side of the issue closer to the truth. So, slamming biblical verses down someone's throat is not a sound practice in apologetics. First, try to get such people to understand that you do not hate or look at them any differently then any other human because we are all sinners. Try to show them that GOd created man and woman equally but different for a reason. Try to get them to understand what God's love is (i.e. willing or desiring the good of us all with the ultimate good being that we spend eternity with Him in heaven.
Once they understand what God's love is -that is, a love that includes a complete self donation of one to another, they will understand that the physical act of homosexual relations can never equate to God's love and that the conjugal act is meant to occur between a man and woman under the confines of the sacrament of marriage .
davy

Albuquerque, NM

#64876 Jun 26, 2012
Texas Pastor arrested for wife's murder
GATESVILLE (February 1, 2012)-David Keith Allen, 49, was in the Coryell County Jail Wednesday charged with capital murder in the March 22, 2011 death of his wife in a house fire.

Allen was indicted on Monday and arrested at about 6:45 p.m. Tuesday by Coryell County Sheriff's deputies.

The indictment accuses Allen of setting the fire deliberately, using a flammable accelerant.

Paula Allen, 54, was found dead just inside the front door of a mobile home behind the New Life Church of Restoration just east of Gatesville.

The church has since changed its name.

David Allen also has remarried in recent days, according to records in the Coryell County Clerk's office where a marriage license was issued to David Allen and Megan Lynn Griffith, 27, also of Gatesville.
Bob wrote:
S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
San Francisco police have arrested veteran gay rights advocate Larry Brinkin in connection with felony possession of child pornography.
Brinkin, 66, who worked for the San Francisco Human Rights Commission before his retirement in 2010, was taken into custody Friday night. He spent the night in jail before he was released on bail, according to a spokeswoman for the sheriff’s department.
The district attorney’s office will decide Tuesday whether to file charges.“We’re still reviewing the case,” district attorney’s spokeswoman Stephanie Ong Stillman said Monday.
Police say that Brinkin had pornographic
images, some that appear to show children as young as 1 and 2 or 3 years old being sodomized and performing oral sex on adult men, in e-mail attachments linked to his account, according to a search warrant served by San Francisco police.
Representatives of America Online contacted authorities after coming across e-mail attachments from one of its subscriber’s accounts containing what they believed to be child pornography.
The Los Angeles Police Department, which was assigned to the case, traced the IP address associated with the account, Zack3737@aol.com, to Brinkin, a San Francisco resident, according to court records. Los Angeles police forwarded the case to San Francisco police.
davy

Albuquerque, NM

#64877 Jun 26, 2012
Ohio Pastor arrested for raping homeless woman
The pastor of a North Jackson homeless shelter has been arrested on two counts of rape and two counts of gross sexual imposition after a three-month investigation by Jackson Township Police.

Police said Ronald Lee Pyles, Jr., 58, who operates Victory Harvest Ministries at 13243 Palmyra Road, is accused of assaulting a 20-year-old woman who was staying at the shelter on several occasions between October 2010 and March 2011.

A police report states that the woman reported the assaults to her guardian, who notified police. The woman is now living with a guardian in Youngstown, the report states.
Bob wrote:
S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
San Francisco police have arrested veteran gay rights advocate Larry Brinkin in connection with felony possession of child pornography.
Brinkin, 66, who worked for the San Francisco Human Rights Commission before his retirement in 2010, was taken into custody Friday night. He spent the night in jail before he was released on bail, according to a spokeswoman for the sheriff’s department.
The district attorney’s office will decide Tuesday whether to file charges.“We’re still reviewing the case,” district attorney’s spokeswoman Stephanie Ong Stillman said Monday.
Police say that Brinkin had pornographic
images, some that appear to show children as young as 1 and 2 or 3 years old being sodomized and performing oral sex on adult men, in e-mail attachments linked to his account, according to a search warrant served by San Francisco police.
Representatives of America Online contacted authorities after coming across e-mail attachments from one of its subscriber’s accounts containing what they believed to be child pornography.
The Los Angeles Police Department, which was assigned to the case, traced the IP address associated with the account, Zack3737@aol.com, to Brinkin, a San Francisco resident, according to court records. Los Angeles police forwarded the case to San Francisco police.
davy

Albuquerque, NM

#64878 Jun 26, 2012
This is fun!
British Columbian Pastor arrested for sex crimes against teen girl
A Pentecostal Youth Pastor was arrested in Grand Falls-Windsor last Friday on a charge of sexual exploitation. The charge came as the result of an investigation by RCMP in British Columbia, who received a complaint from a mother concerning her teenaged daughter. It's alleged that the 33-year-old engaged in an inappropriate relationship with the teen when she was 16. He was 28. The relationship is alleged to have occured between July 2007 and November of 2008 in British Columbia. The accused was the youth pastor with the Colwood Pentecostal Church in Victoria, B.C., and is scheduled to appear in court in Colwood B.C. on June 21.
Bob wrote:
S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
San Francisco police have arrested veteran gay rights advocate Larry Brinkin in connection with felony possession of child pornography.
Brinkin, 66, who worked for the San Francisco Human Rights Commission before his retirement in 2010, was taken into custody Friday night. He spent the night in jail before he was released on bail, according to a spokeswoman for the sheriff’s department.
The district attorney’s office will decide Tuesday whether to file charges.“We’re still reviewing the case,” district attorney’s spokeswoman Stephanie Ong Stillman said Monday.
Police say that Brinkin had pornographic
images, some that appear to show children as young as 1 and 2 or 3 years old being sodomized and performing oral sex on adult men, in e-mail attachments linked to his account, according to a search warrant served by San Francisco police.
Representatives of America Online contacted authorities after coming across e-mail attachments from one of its subscriber’s accounts containing what they believed to be child pornography.
The Los Angeles Police Department, which was assigned to the case, traced the IP address associated with the account, Zack3737@aol.com, to Brinkin, a San Francisco resident, according to court records. Los Angeles police forwarded the case to San Francisco police.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#64879 Jun 26, 2012
project2heal wrote:
Look, homosexuality is a sin. However, so is adultery, masturbation, lusting after a woman(man), theft and so on. As christians we are to love as God loved us. Gods love is agape, or desiring the good of another. We must understand that our ultimate goal here on earth is to fulfill God's will. His will is to ultimately have us live eternally within the trinity or "be in the presence of the beatific vision. The sin of homosexuality takes no higher place than any of the other sexual sins or perhaps any of the other sins committed when breaking one of the commandments. To love another as God loved us means we must desire that the one we love spend eternity in heaven with God. Therefore, we must pray that they come to recognize the truth about acting on same sex attraction( not the inclination), and that they can find a way to stop from committing the sin just as the gambler must stop gambling and the adulterer must stop cheating on his wife.
So, the fact is that we must actually try to be more charitable to our sisters and brothers in christ that struggle with same sex attraction. It is true that the only way we can help is if they accept that the act is a sin . In most situations that is not going to happen and therefore, again, our best practice as fellow christians is to pray for such people to recognize the sin and to ask God to help them change their ways.
Christian debate must be charitable at all times. That is a part of apologetical discourse. To be charitable the "argument" must not focus on winning the debate but bringing the person on the other side of the issue closer to the truth. So, slamming biblical verses down someone's throat is not a sound practice in apologetics. First, try to get such people to understand that you do not hate or look at them any differently then any other human because we are all sinners. Try to show them that GOd created man and woman equally but different for a reason. Try to get them to understand what God's love is (i.e. willing or desiring the good of us all with the ultimate good being that we spend eternity with Him in heaven.
Once they understand what God's love is -that is, a love that includes a complete self donation of one to another, they will understand that the physical act of homosexual relations can never equate to God's love and that the conjugal act is meant to occur between a man and woman under the confines of the sacrament of marriage .
In order to prove that homosexuality is a sin, first you have to prove these in order:

1. That there's a god, using evidence which is testable and objectively verifiable.
2. That this god is interested in what humans do.
3. That the ideology you attribute to this god is the correct one.
4. That this deity created a concept called "sin".
5. That the creator of the concept of sin specifically communicated that homosexuality is a sin.

Start with #1, and good luck. Be objective. Use empirical evidence, not ontological arguments.

:)

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#64880 Jun 26, 2012
davy wrote:
This is fun!
British Columbian Pastor arrested for sex crimes against teen girl
A Pentecostal Youth Pastor was arrested in Grand Falls-Windsor last Friday on a charge of sexual exploitation. The charge came as the result of an investigation by RCMP in British Columbia, who received a complaint from a mother concerning her teenaged daughter. It's alleged that the 33-year-old engaged in an inappropriate relationship with the teen when she was 16. He was 28. The relationship is alleged to have occured between July 2007 and November of 2008 in British Columbia. The accused was the youth pastor with the Colwood Pentecostal Church in Victoria, B.C., and is scheduled to appear in court in Colwood B.C. on June 21.
<quoted text>
OMG! That obviously means that all Christians are pedophiles! Quick! Call child protective services!

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#64881 Jun 26, 2012
davy wrote:
Texas Pastor arrested for wife's murder
GATESVILLE (February 1, 2012)-David Keith Allen, 49, was in the Coryell County Jail Wednesday charged with capital murder in the March 22, 2011 death of his wife in a house fire.
Allen was indicted on Monday and arrested at about 6:45 p.m. Tuesday by Coryell County Sheriff's deputies.
The indictment accuses Allen of setting the fire deliberately, using a flammable accelerant.
Paula Allen, 54, was found dead just inside the front door of a mobile home behind the New Life Church of Restoration just east of Gatesville.
The church has since changed its name.
David Allen also has remarried in recent days, according to records in the Coryell County Clerk's office where a marriage license was issued to David Allen and Megan Lynn Griffith, 27, also of Gatesville.
<quoted text>
OMG! This obviously means that all Christians are murderers too! Someone stop these people!

“Trolls are Clueless”

Since: Dec 07

Aptos, California

#64882 Jun 26, 2012
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
In order to prove that homosexuality is a sin, first you have to prove these in order:
1. That there's a god, using evidence which is testable and objectively verifiable.
2. That this god is interested in what humans do.
3. That the ideology you attribute to this god is the correct one.
4. That this deity created a concept called "sin".
5. That the creator of the concept of sin specifically communicated that homosexuality is a sin.
Start with #1, and good luck. Be objective. Use empirical evidence, not ontological arguments.
:)
I like that one. May I borrow it?
davy

Albuquerque, NM

#64883 Jun 26, 2012
Help, the Christians are coming. Somebody save me!
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
OMG! This obviously means that all Christians are murderers too! Someone stop these people!

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