Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

uber liberal wrote:

95% of Americans see that it's far morfe beneficial to be allies and friends with Iran that it is to be puppets and servants of Israel.
Americans are finally waking up, they see that the US has basically trash talked Iran for almost 3 decades, just like the US did with Cuba.
But these countries are countries of peace and prosperity while Israel is the terrorist state.
Americans firmly believe that it is in our country's best interest to be at peace with Iran and Cubs and to sever our ties with Israel.
I speak for all Americans

NO YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR ALL AMERICANS. THE US WILL ALWAYS BEFRIENDS WITH THE ONLY PEACEFUL COUNTRY IN THE REGION Israel. WE JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE A SHITTY PRES RIGHT NOW BUT THAT TO WILL FIX ITSELF IN NOVEMBER 12

Muslim wars began way before the cold war. The Muslims contradictic themselves first by stating "war is deciet" verse 3:28 in the Quaran, but then stating no its ok using doctrines that are rewritten not in the words of Muhammad but in "Taqiyya," which permits Muslims to lie and dissemble whenever they are under the authority of the infidel. Muslim wars date back to the Persian Empire such as the Battle of Guagamela in 331 BC. Not to mention all the arab islamic wars in ancient Africa during the trade wars. What do you mean Muslim wars did not start until the cold war? The main struggle between Muslims started with the Battle of the Camels in Bassorah in 656 with the division of beliefs and this in fact was the second civil war in Islam. The first civil war during the khilafat of Abu Bakr, the first khalifa. Islamic struggle between the shia and sunni has been around since the beginning which I am sure goes against everything Muhammed invisioned. The wars they create, the struggle between the two goes against the teachings of Islam, that is why they rewrite the doctrines.

The Iranian leaders will have a hard time running their mouths when they have missiles stuffed down their throats. Iran runs it's mouth way too much. It's a matter of principal at this point. I say.. bomb them just to shut their stupid mouths.

MUQ wrote:

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It is those who are trying to malign the character of our prophet, who keep on repeating these stories ab infinito.
The fact of marriage is a thing which happened during the life of prophet and there was nothing strange or dishonorable about it and no one in the contemporary society made any objection about it.
But to the people with twisted mind and twisted logic any weapon is strong enough to be used against their opponents.
Ultimately the truth shall prevail as it has always prevailed and those trying to malign the name and character of our prophet have lost their face in the world and in the public.

This is fact!! Of course whoever wrote the Quran for Mohammad would say that. Funny how the Quran was written 790 years AFTER Christ appeared on this earth. How the hell does a writer for Mohammad (who happened to be illiterate) come up with this hogwash 1200 years later?? The bottom line is that no one knows for sure who wrote the Quran. It could have been Joe Blow down the street for all we know. When we consider the New Testament of the Holy Bible, we have today in our possession 5,300 known Greek manuscripts of the New Testament, another 10,000 Latin Vulgates, and 9,300 other early versions, giving us more than 24,000 manuscripts of the New Testament in existence today! Furthermore, a substantial number were written well before the compilation of the Quran. In fact, a total of 230 manuscript portions are currently in existence which pre-date 600 AD or 1200 years before the Quran was written! These can be broken down into 192 New Testament manuscripts, 5 lectionaries containing scripture, and 33 translations of the Greek New Testament. So what comparisons are there between the manuscript evidence for the Quran and the Bible? We know from the historical record that by the end of the seventh century the Arabs had expanded right across North Africa and up into Spain, and east as far as India. The Quran was the centerpiece of their faith and practice at that time. Certainly within that enormous sphere of influence there should therefore be some Quran manuscripts which still exist till this day. Yet, there is nothing from that period at all. The only manuscripts which Islam provides turn out to have been compiled in the ninth century, while the earliest corroborated manuscript is dated 790 A.D. or over 1200 years after New Testament manuscripts. Islam cannot provide a single manuscript until well into the eighth century. If the Christians could retain so many thousands of ancient manuscripts, all of which were written long before the Quran, at a time when paper had not yet been introduced, forcing the dependency on papyrus which disintegrated with age, then one wonders why the Muslims are not able to forward a single manuscript from this much later period, during which the Quran was supposedly revealed? This indeed gives the Bible a much stronger claim for reliability than the Quran.

Have you read the Quran? if you haven't, you shouldn't go around saying Islam can live side by side with other religions.
Islam mandates the extermination of the Jews. The death penalty for those who are gay. the death penalty for those who convert out of Islam and MORE evil things.
again, read the damn book before you go making assumptions like everybody can live in peace. do you think the world could live in peace with Nazis who believed in the extermination of the Jews? Islam is the same evil. just another name.

Ayreshire wrote:

Have you read the Quran? if you haven't, you shouldn't go around saying Islam can live side by side with other religions.
Islam mandates the extermination of the Jews. The death penalty for those who are gay. the death penalty for those who convert out of Islam and MORE evil things.
again, read the damn book before you go making assumptions like everybody can live in peace. do you think the world could live in peace with Nazis who believed in the extermination of the Jews? Islam is the same evil. just another name.

Fact Jews and Arabs are of the same decent, no ifs and or buts. Both have a direct line to Abraham. For Muslims wanting to kill Jews is hypocrisy. Muslims do not even know their own history, or religion. I have read the book, and just like the Bible people do not read what is, they do not read word for word and they do not know how to differentiate sybolism from what is literal. Muslims are told what and how to believe.

109 verses discuss violence however the NKJ Bible also speaks of Bilical wars. Comprehension is lacking. The Quaran is written open ended for a changing world.
The Arabic word 'Islam' means 'Submission to the will of God and obedience of His law' and is derived from the root word 'Salam' meaning 'Peace'. Seems Islam has forgotten the meaning of their own Ideals of Religion. Salam

NT wrote:

How do account for the different nationalities with their own languages and custom seeing we are all as one from God ?

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I thank you for asking a very good question!!

People are so busy in demonizing each other that they have even forgotten as to how to ask vibrant and relevant questions.

May be my answer would be a little longer than what you expect.

A. Origin of mankind on earth:

1. Irrespective of what our “evolution guys” claim, the human race on earth started from a single pair of male and female.

2. The religious scriptures are unanimous on this, that Adam and Eve were the First Human pair who appeared on the face of earth and it was only thru them, that human race spread thru out the earth.

3. Every human, irrespective of which country, tribe or location he or she belong to, must be ultimately connected to the first human pair. If they do not know the links, it is their fault, but there is no doubt in the least that they are directly related to our First Parents.

B. Difference in language and colors and customs:

1. This is another very interesting issue, as by looking at the thousands of languages and colors of people and their customs, one is bewildered that they were once came from the same stock.

2. I know in Bible, it is related that God mingled the language of humans, so divide them, so that they cannot challenge God…. But in Quran this issue is treated very differently. It is mentioned as “One of Signs (or miracles) of God, this variation in colors and languages of humans.

It is mentioned in Quran Ch 30, V 22:

“And amongst His signs is the creation of Heavens and Earth and the variations in your languages and your colors: verily in that are signs for those who know”

See how beautifully Quran tackles this serious question and leaves it for the “People who know”!! It is for the scholars to research and find out how one language of Adam and Eve got divided into so many different languages…

And how children of same parents after so many centuries got so many features varying from each other.

C. Is true religion dependent upon language and custom?

1. According to Quran it is not. Because the basic fundamentals of a True religion is to Worship only One God and associate no partners with Him, and follow teachings of your prophet, so that you shall be successful in the Hereafter.

2. None of these are affected by the ethnicity or the local customs and habits of the people.

3. And God was not partial to any language or any ethnic group, because He sent His Prophets and Messengers to every nation and in every language.

Quran says in Ch 14 Verse 4:

“ We sent not a Messenger except (to teach) in the language of his (own) people, in order to make things clear to them….”

4. Since all prophets preached the same message, there was no problem if one followed one prophet in India and another one followed his prophet in China. The prophets were sent to their own people and they did not preach their message to another country. The travel situation also did not make it feasible for peoples of different countries to have so much interaction with each other.

D. Need for a Universal Message and Universal Messenger:

1. In the knowledge of God, there was to come a time, when the human civilization would grow and there would be a need for a Universal message and a Universal Messenger.

2. That is why God took pledge from every Prophet and Messenger to inform their people that a Universal Message and Universal Messenger would come into the world and by whom all these “different religions” would be combined back into a single religion.

3. That is why we find prophesy for such a messenger in almost every scripture of the World. Deut 18:18 and Comforter of John Ch 14-18 are examples of the same. Similar reference are found amongst Hindu and Buddhist and Zoroastrian scriptures also.

4. That seems to be God’ plan to once again unite all humans to a single religion and a single book and a single prophet. The single religion is called Islam, the Single Book is called Quran and the Single messenger in named as Prophet Mohammad (May peace and Mercy of Allah be on him).

Allah Knows Best

John wrote:

<quoted text> NO YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR ALL AMERICANS. THE US WILL ALWAYS BEFRIENDS WITH THE ONLY PEACEFUL COUNTRY IN THE REGION Israel. WE JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE A SHITTY PRES RIGHT NOW BUT THAT TO WILL FIX ITSELF IN NOVEMBER 12

Calling Isreal as the "Only peaceful country" in the world is really amusing.

You are calling the root Cause of most problems in the world as a "peaceful country"?

Perhaps you are right, the roots are hidden under the ground and are hidden from human eyes, while branches and leaves are there for every one to see.

Isreal is the root of the evil tree of violence and terror in that part of the world and it is involved in most cases of violences, mischief and intrigues.

But US another "peaceful country" calling Israel another "peaceful country" makes sense.....birds of same feather flock together!!

MUQ wrote:

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Calling Isreal as the "Only peaceful country" in the world is really amusing.
Isreal is the root of the evil tree of violence and terror in that part of the world and it is involved in most cases of violences, mischief and intrigues.
But US another "peaceful country" calling Israel another "peaceful country" makes sense.....birds of same feather flock together!!

LIAR! Hey Moron. What I don't like is the continued bashing of Israel that you clowns love to do. You're all a bunch of crazed Muslims with nothing better to do than to use your childish mentality to demean the ONLY country in the Middle East that doesn’t take OUR Foreign Aid and bank the money in private accounts while their people suffer (Remember Arafat??), support terrorists, harbor terrorists, buy arms for terrorists or use it for building Mosques as they incite hatred toward the good old USA. The outright lies, distortions and propaganda are what I'm going after. When Israel attacks Hamas it is retaliation for attacks on them dummy!! Hamas used women and children as human shields. So when Women and children die, you clowns start foaming at the mouth!! They only Attack HAMAS or those responsible for suicide and rocket attack on Israel Dummy!! Israel does not attack for no reason and never has. It is only after they have been provoked!! Learn your History and stop making yourself look like a fool!! The Arabs have muddied the world for decades with their furious protest that their land has been “stolen” from them. One might take seriously such a statement if it came from a pacifist people such as the Tibetans, who had quietly inhabited their land for ages before it was seized by the Communist Chinese in 1950. The claim is laughable coming from the Arabs, who in the early Middle Ages conquered and reduced to slavery and penury ancient peoples and civilizations stretching from the borders of Persia to the Atlantic; who in 1947 rejected an Arab state in Palestine alongside a Jewish state and sought to obliterate the nascent Jewish state; who never called for a distinct Palestinian Arab state until the creation of the terrorist PLO in 1964—sixteen years after the founding of the state of Israel; and who to this moment continue to seek Israel’s destruction, an object that would be enormously advanced by the creation of the Arab state they demand. The Arab claim to sovereign rights west of the Jordan is only humored today because of a fatal combination of world need for Arab oil, leftist Political Correctness that has cast the Israelis as “oppressors,” and, of course, good old Jew-hatred.

MUQ wrote:

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I thank you for asking a very good question!!
People are so busy in demonizing each other that they have even forgotten as to how to ask vibrant and relevant questions.
May be my answer would be a little longer than what you expect.
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TO ALL RATIONAL MINDS: This is the typical Muslim mentality. It's primary goal is to deceive, lie, cheat, and steal away the minds of the uneducated!! That's what the Quran teaches the clowns to do!! If you are going to follow the Quran, you better be prepared to do a lot of lying and conniving!! Of course whoever wrote the Quran for Mohammad would say that. Funny how the Quran was written 790 years AFTER Christ appeared on this earth. How the hell does a writer for Mohammad (who happened to be illiterate) come up with this hogwash 1200 years later?? The bottom line is that no one knows for sure who wrote the Quran. It could have been Joe Blow down the street for all we know. When we consider the New Testament of the Holy Bible, we have today in our possession 5,300 known Greek manuscripts of the New Testament, another 10,000 Latin Vulgates, and 9,300 other early versions, giving us more than 24,000 manuscripts of the New Testament in existence today! Furthermore, a substantial number were written well before the compilation of the Quran. In fact, a total of 230 manuscript portions are currently in existence which pre-date 600 AD or 1200 years before the Quran was written! These can be broken down into 192 New Testament manuscripts, 5 lectionaries containing scripture, and 33 translations of the Greek New Testament. So what comparisons are there between the manuscript evidence for the Quran and the Bible? We know from the historical record that by the end of the seventh century the Arabs had expanded right across North Africa and up into Spain, and east as far as India. The Quran was the centerpiece of their faith and practice at that time. Certainly within that enormous sphere of influence there should therefore be some Quran manuscripts which still exist till this day. Yet, there is nothing from that period at all. The only manuscripts which Islam provides turn out to have been compiled in the ninth century, while the earliest corroborated manuscript is dated 790 A.D. or over 1200 years after New Testament manuscripts. Islam cannot provide a single manuscript until well into the eighth century. If the Christians could retain so many thousands of ancient manuscripts, all of which were written long before the Quran, at a time when paper had not yet been introduced, forcing the dependency on papyrus which disintegrated with age, then one wonders why the Muslims are not able to forward a single manuscript from this much later period, during which the Quran was supposedly revealed? This indeed gives the Bible a much stronger claim for reliability than the Quran.

Hope Israel bomb the shit out of them. They have survived many attacks before - & went in harder & heavier then their pathetic extremist neighbors. Muslims = trouble makers + world problem!

Wankers wrote:

Hope Israel bomb the shit out of them. They have survived many attacks before - & went in harder & heavier then their pathetic extremist neighbors. Muslims = trouble makers + world problem!

When US the Superpower could not get rid of them, despite all their efforts, how you expect a "minnow" like Isreal to solve the problem?

They could not even defeat hamas and hizbollah in their last try.... how do you expect them to becaome Superman?

The best way to deal with Muslims is to let them alone and do not pick up any fight with them, or do not try to enforce your own civlization on them.

They might fight and kill each other, and be their worst enemies.... but by interfering into their affairs, you are calling for troubles. A project where the lossess are much more than the gains.

How come your Superbrains have not got the message despite burning their fingers so many times is strange for me!!

MUQ wrote:

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When US the Superpower could not get rid of them, despite all their efforts, how you expect a "minnow" like Isreal to solve the problem?
They could not even defeat hamas and hizbollah in their last try.... how do you expect them to becaome Superman?
The best way to deal with Muslims is to let them alone and do not pick up any fight with them, or do not try to enforce your own civlization on them.
They might fight and kill each other, and be their worst enemies.... but by interfering into their affairs, you are calling for troubles. A project where the lossess are much more than the gains.
How come your Superbrains have not got the message despite burning their fingers so many times is strange for me!!

All you ever see is Iran stiring shit - no wonder why the world gets involved. I never see Israeli PM on the media telling its country to kill Muslims blah blah, but regularly see the jokers in Iran telling there country to kill Jews blah blah. I even work with 2 from Iran - they left because they don't agree. Most don't agree but shut there mouth. Like I said, blow them up. Problem solved!

Iran used to be moderate until the US and the UK intervened.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_cou...

Wankers wrote:

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All you ever see is Iran stiring shit - no wonder why the world gets involved. I never see Israeli PM on the media telling its country to kill Muslims blah blah, but regularly see the jokers in Iran telling there country to kill Jews blah blah. I even work with 2 from Iran - they left because they don't agree. Most don't agree but shut there mouth. Like I said, blow them up. Problem solved!

NT wrote:

The truth as you say was written in the Islamic history of Muhammad and this has been carried on through the ages.

Who or what was or is contemporary society ?

I am not here to judge, more so to understand.
In native society within Australia is was normal for a tribal male elder to take a young girl as his own and this was their custom up until not long ago .

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The marriage of our prophet to lady Aiyesha was nothing that cannot pass in any civilized society.

The marriage was proposed by her parents, who were closest friends, to the prophet, the prophet accepted it, but since she had not reached the age of marriage, the consummation was delayed till she had reached the age of marriage.

There is no rule in any society that makes it mandatory that bride and bridegroom shall not have age difference exceeding this limit.

The prophet was healthy and manly and there was no problem whatsoever in their marriage…. And that is why in that society of Arabs (and it could be in any society of the world)…. No one considered it wrong.

The difference in age was not at all a discussing point, till the western “Scholars” stumbled on the age difference between the parties and made a mountain out of that mole hill.

First of all there is no Dogma to fix the age of Lady Ayesha, we do not contest it, because it would not be helpful in solving the matter.

That is why, we only say that that three years waiting period between contract of marriage and its consummation was only for lady Ayesha to reach the age of marriage.

And those who try to paint prophet as a sex maniac, fail to realize that it was lady Ayesha who benefited from that alliance and not the prophet. No one would have even remembered the name of younger daughter of Abu Bakr, just because of that marriage, she became the most revered scholar in Islam, she learned and absorbed from the prophet whatever was to learn and distributed that knowledge to following generations.

I do not know that those who are bandying her name, are really her friends or her enemies. What good have they done to her by these allegations?

Wankers wrote:

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All you ever see is Iran stiring shit - no wonder why the world gets involved. I never see Israeli PM on the media telling its country to kill Muslims blah blah, but regularly see the jokers in Iran telling there country to kill Jews blah blah. I even work with 2 from Iran - they left because they don't agree. Most don't agree but shut there mouth. Like I said, blow them up. Problem solved!

Why should world get involved when Iran goes ahead with its nuclear program?

The world kept quiet when Israel got its nuclear program underway.

The world kept quiet when India and Pakistan and North Korea detonated nuclear devices.

the world kept quiet when all these so called Superpowers detonated one Nuclea device after another.

How the world's foundation would be loosened from its mooring if Iran also gets unclear weapons?

why there be different laws for different nations?

And who are you to interfere into the affairs of any nation? Let them decide what is good for them and do it?

MUQ wrote:

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Why should world get involved when Iran goes ahead with its nuclear program?
The world kept quiet when Israel got its nuclear program underway.
The world kept quiet when India and Pakistan and North Korea detonated nuclear devices.
the world kept quiet when all these so called Superpowers detonated one Nuclea device after another.
How the world's foundation would be loosened from its mooring if Iran also gets unclear weapons?
why there be different laws for different nations?
And who are you to interfere into the affairs of any nation? Let them decide what is good for them and do it?

I don't interfere in Iran or the other Nuclear countries as claimed by you - neither does my country. We aren't run at the helm by religious extremist mad men thank god!

Wankers wrote:

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I don't interfere in Iran or the other Nuclear countries as claimed by you - neither does my country. We aren't run at the helm by religious extremist mad men thank god!

You might not be doing as a person, but I see USA and NATO and their allies are all crying as if foundations of world would become loose if Iran got Nuclear Capability.

There are sanctions and there is talk of Military Intervention and what not....if that is not interfering into affairs of a country, what else is?

And the joke is that these same country maintain a tight lipped silence over Israel and its Nuclear Weapons.

Which gave you idea that Israel is not ruled by more racial and religiously bigots than Iran?

To any honest observer, it would look like double standards, one for Muslim countries and another for Christian and Jewish countries.

Why not be a honest person and reject hypocricy? If Nuclear weapons are taboo, then they are for all nations and not only for a selected few.

Come on , be honest, you might not have any power to change the course, but at least you can answer your concience with a straight face.