What do u think of Jesus Christ?(God)

Child Of God wrote:

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I think you have the right attitude. God Bless You for it. I do want to clear up something here. I never meant to give the impression I hate anyone. I have stated over and over that I hate evil, or I hate what they do on this thread.(Bashing Christians.)So I hate the evil coming from their hearts.
I don't really believe for one second, that any Christian loves the Christian Bashing going on in this thread.
I also will call a spade a spade. Evil is evil, and I will call evil such. I also call anything contrary to the Gospel of Jesus Christ evil, beause it is.
Jesus Himself talked about the evil in men's hearts. I too talk about the evil in the hearts of those who bash Christians and Christianity on this thread.
I won't tell them that they are O.K. It would be a real deceiving injustice to them, to let them believe they are O.K. when they bash Christianity and Jesus Christ Himself.
Why? Because they're not O.K. when they do it. and they're getting themselves into big trouble with the Lord when they do it.(They will be judged for it!)
They need to know that what they do is evil, because they believe it's an acceptable way of life to bash Christians in the name of self expresions.(Well it's evil, and I'll continue to tell them so.)
Their are some who claim to believe in God, but also claim there's other ways to have God apart from Jesus Christ, which is contrary to what Jesus taught.(So that philosophy is also evil, and they need to know it.)
I'm not about to tell them I love them, no mater what they do, as if what they do is acceptable and O.K. with God, when it isn't.(That would be a good way to love them right into hell, by letting them believe they are O.K., when they're actually in danger of hell fire judgement from the Lord.
No! I will tag evil as evil, and definately won't embrace it under any circumstances. If you truly are concerned for the lost souls on this thread, then you will warn them, and tell them the truth about their destiny if they don't change their ways.
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest on this thread. I'm trying to get the truth out, so these poor lost souls will know the trouble they're in.
No! God doesn't love their evil ways.(God hates their evil ways!) God wil judge their evil ways, and it would be deception, to allow them to believe anything else.(It's not about a popularity contest!) If you truly love them, then you will, tell them.

HipGnosis wrote:

<quoted text>Thank you for another well-reasoned reply, Jen. Sorry for no reply in return but God/ Mother Nature knocked this area but good yesterday and we were without power until a bit ago. many still without power so I could lose it again while they make their repairs. How much we take for granted our light switches, hmmm? There's guys and gals out there in icey blizzard conditions getting folks hooked back up as we speak - granted, making double-time pay but they're still gettin' it done.
Interesting flip side of course - with no heat/power there was no wandering off to various TV's, computers, etc, instead we had no recourse but to seal off the front room, fire up the fireplace, and read/play games by firelight 'til midnite and then bundle up as best as possible and off to bed. What a nice family time it turned out to be, not done since kids were small.
Discouraged yesterday anyway - can't put my finger on it. There are so many in here that are such a joy to talk to and they happen to span the spectrum of spiritual belief. sometimes tho' it gets overpopulated with folks who I will not label because it discredits the label. They're just argumentative for it's own sake it seems, and you know I like a good tussle, but if it's not perceived to be balanced with simple human respect, it quickly becomes degrading for all involved. There are some here who can tell me I'm a hopeless fool and it just makes me smile 'cos I know there's respect, even dare I say, affection, behind it. I don't know about the others but instead of the humor, enlightenment, and even occasional exhiliration I get from most discussions, these others quickly leave one feeling unsettled and blah, and it ain't worth that.
Good to see you - good to see you consistently got your priorities square (family). Thanks for listening to my bitchin'. Your perspective is always appreciated.

HipGnosis wrote:

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You have a hard mind-set. That is good, for YOU! It is based in an apparently rock-solid conviction that your position is absolute. You come to this absolutism by upbringing and heritage, and you have no interest in questioning those "absolutes" as passed down to you. This, again, apparently works - for YOU!
Does it occur to you that in 1st century Judea, the average Jew felt the same exact way about the Law? Can you put yourself in their shoes, growing up in an ancient tradition that had been passed down to them as absolute and perfect? Can you see how that same average Judean would feel threatened and abgry when Jesus came to proclaim his message? In this light, it would be impossible for Jesus to win any converts among this group. The primary place his message found root was among the disenfranchised and open-minded and/or among the odd few who witnessed one of the signs. He came with a message that said "You have become too rooted in dogma - you've missed the point. I have some new information for you based in today's knowledge, not yesterday's." Well, they didn't like it did they? They called it "hate-speech" too, didn't they?
It occurs to me that if many modern day Bible literalists were 1st century Judeans, with the same fundamentalist hard-fast conviction of the dogma passed down in ancient transcripts, these same would have been among the crowd who screamed, "Free Barrabas!"
Please - disagreement and proposition of alternatives are not hate-speech.

You will someday know wrote:

Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. That means you. That means Obama and Osama and O'Hair. Everyone.

Just Wondering wrote:

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Child of God, not to criticize but but isn't it also OK to show them by your own words, in a loving and reasonable way (not that you're unreasonable) that it is so comfortable having God as your friend, ally, sounding board, etc., that some may take this to their own heart and believe?
Not as you and I do, but as one who discovers a void that your words have created and then searches for it on their own and in their own way? I can feel and see God's work in my life, and it didn't come from church, it was something I was missing and for me it works. To me, this feeling is God's grace.
Peace to you

Child Of God wrote:

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I think you have the right attitude. God Bless You for it. I do want to clear up something here. I never meant to give the impression I hate anyone. I have stated over and over that I hate evil, or I hate what they do on this thread.(Bashing Christians.)So I hate the evil coming from their hearts.
I don't really believe for one second, that any Christian loves the Christian Bashing going on in this thread.
I also will call a spade a spade. Evil is evil, and I will call evil such. I also call anything contrary to the Gospel of Jesus Christ evil, beause it is.
Jesus Himself talked about the evil in men's hearts. I too talk about the evil in the hearts of those who bash Christians and Christianity on this thread.
I won't tell them that they are O.K. It would be a real deceiving injustice to them, to let them believe they are O.K. when they bash Christianity and Jesus Christ Himself.
Why? Because they're not O.K. when they do it. and they're getting themselves into big trouble with the Lord when they do it.(They will be judged for it!)
They need to know that what they do is evil, because they believe it's an acceptable way of life to bash Christians in the name of self expresions.(Well it's evil, and I'll continue to tell them so.)
Their are some who claim to believe in God, but also claim there's other ways to have God apart from Jesus Christ, which is contrary to what Jesus taught.(So that philosophy is also evil, and they need to know it.)
I'm not about to tell them I love them, no mater what they do, as if what they do is acceptable and O.K. with God, when it isn't.(That would be a good way to love them right into hell, by letting them believe they are O.K., when they're actually in danger of hell fire judgement from the Lord.
No! I will tag evil as evil, and definately won't embrace it under any circumstances. If you truly are concerned for the lost souls on this thread, then you will warn them, and tell them the truth about their destiny if they don't change their ways.
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest on this thread. I'm trying to get the truth out, so these poor lost souls will know the trouble they're in.
No! God doesn't love their evil ways.(God hates their evil ways!) God wil judge their evil ways, and it would be deception, to allow them to believe anything else.(It's not about a popularity contest!) If you truly love them, then you will, tell them.

ROUNDER wrote:

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my god says you're going to hell for that blasphemy. i just made him/it up this morning - but he/it has all the god characteristics i like.....like for one, he does not like you speaking for him! this means you buddy. better get your tongue confessing to my god or else you will pay, and plenty.

Child Of God wrote:

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I understand your point, and it was very well given.
The only thing is: I preach what Jesus taught, so when Jesus was trying to get the Jews back on track, then he gave a new message different than what the Jews thought, but that new message of Jesus, is what we Christians preach today.....(full text above - shortened due to space constraints)

Child Of God wrote:

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See scripture below that says so:
Philippians 2:9  Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him(Jesus), and given him a name which is above every name:
10  That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11  And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Child Of God wrote:

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Yes! You made your god up from your own head.(Well stated!) But your God isn't the God of the Bible or Christians, therefore your god is very irrelevent to Christians or our Creator.
Yes! Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord! Even your god will, which seems to be your own head, or better put yourself, so even your knee shall bow, and even your tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.
See scripture below that says so:
Philippians 2:9  Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him(Jesus), and given him a name which is above every name:
10  That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11  And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

HipGnosis wrote:

Another thought CoG, please. I see that you rarely let a post go by without comment, no matter who it is. Back before your brief sabbatical from topix I complimented you once, under the name Geresaen Demoniac, on your stamina in posting your position, even tho' I disagreed. I would point out however that many of these flamers are not even worthy of reply simply because they are just trolling through - they will not even see your response. However, I feel you may be channeling St. George, whirling around with your Sword of Truth, valiantly countering all the dragons you see around you. I've learned that it is possible, and much more satisfying, to carry on over the din. I've said before - It's like talking in a bus station - you just ignore the noise and concentrate on the few worth talking with. Heck, I could be one of those not worthy of reply, from your pov -- I don't mind. All I'm saying is that you try to fight 'em all, but in commentary lump us all in the same box. Many of them are foolish and embarrassing to myself and other regulars. OTOH, speaking of the many worthy regulars, I personally think Micah is one of the most sincere posters in here, and one of the funniest, and I think you would to if you put on your armor and take the time to read through the bluster. If I can acknowledge that God is a great God, transcending all that is, it is incompatible (for me) to think He is the least concerned or threatened about the posters on some silly thing called topix. Is he large and in-charge, or not? I believe that to say God or Jesus is sad about these silly posts, really brings a Great God down to our level. I don't want to follow no God that acts like us. Do you?

HipGnosis wrote:

<quoted text>CoG I'm just saying this - there are some true Chrixtian haters that blow thru here - agreed. They are generally flame-trollers tho', here and gone. The people that spend most time here admit to some degree of spirituality. They just question the mainstream.
CoG if you are not aware of the myriad questions - valid questions - on the historicity, authenticity, and validity of the what has come to us today as the Protestant Bible, then you truly live a sheltered life. OTOH, if you are aware of the questions and just refuse to acknowledge them, then you are being stubbornly and willfully ignorant.
The very fact that many intelligent and perceptive people are believers is testimony to me, it truly is. Conversely, the very fact that many believers, also intelligent and perceptive, are also doubters and outright skeptics, as to doctrine and interpretation, is also testimony. There are many people within the faith that would like to see the mainstream deal more openly with these questions, and this is more testimony.
I have posted many of those questions, and posited the rationale behind those questions. This does not make me a Jesus hater, except to those whose foundational faith is not strong enough to withstand something as innocent as a question.
I understand where you're coming from - Boy, do I!- I come from a fundamentalist background and recall vividly being taught to avoid and/or denounce any and all questioners of the "Way" as agents of Satan. What we never examined in those classes is the fact that people in the very next brick edifice with the crucifix on front, were reading the very same "Word", and coming to very different conclusions. Then I noticed these others who had the same "Word" with a couple different books, specifically Catholics, and they also proclaim that there's is in fact the "Way". Once I realized this (on my own), I began my own search outside the box, and found that there are indeed questions that demand answers. Denying the questions would be to deny the power of discernment that God supposedly gave me. As I do believe in a "God" essence, I don't feel there has been a single thing placed before me that wasn't intended. It is my job, using the intelligence and discernmnet gifted me, to sort the wheat from the chaff.
All we're saying is that all God's creation proclaims that there are valid alternatives that do not threaten God in the least. >I feel< there are no absolutes here - just different perspectives and conclusions.