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the pain is faced by a defenseless being doesn't mean you are legal to kill it. give him hands and and then show how able you are.
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all religion minus islam wrote:
the pain is faced by a defenseless being doesn't mean you are legal to kill it. give him hands and and then show how able you are.
Your mother sneaks bacon cheese burgers.

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deep-fried butter wrote:
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Your mother sneaks bacon cheese burgers.
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all religion minus islam wrote:
the pain is faced by a defenseless being doesn't mean you are legal to kill it. give him hands and and then show how able you are.
If you choose to not eat red meat that is your business, I wish you a long and healthy life. But let me ask you this; do wear leather shoes? leather belt? leather coat? where do you think that material comes from? If I'm not mistaken I believe the Bible says that animals were put here on earth for the benefit of man, so let the BBQ begin!!
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May 29, 2012
 
Vegan/Vegetarianism is like religion. If that's your choice, more power to you, but don't put others down because they don't share your misguided beliefs.

BTW, Vegans take in extremely high levels of phyto-estrogen, if you're a man, you won't be for long.

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We have the teeth and acids to chew meat and digest it.
I certainly dont condemn anyone for choosing not to eat meat, but to use our bodily limitations as a reason, is no reason.
I always wondered why it is assumed we are all supposed to live long healthy lives. The body is completely thru growing at age 40.
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Vegetarians murder plants on a large scale so let's not hear all of the exaggerated crap about meat eaters again please.

Ps. Nice reply Spleencage.

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May 29, 2012
 
^^ Thanks!
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May 29, 2012
 
MPMARTIN wrote:
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If you choose to not eat red meat that is your business, I wish you a long and healthy life. But let me ask you this; do wear leather shoes? leather belt? leather coat? where do you think that material comes from? If I'm not mistaken I believe the Bible says that animals were put here on earth for the benefit of man, so let the BBQ begin!!
friend bible! right. its a spiritual book by great spiritual people, the sense of your quote must be spiritual. so the statement means animals serve the purpose of spiritual elevation of the human beings. the spirituality means we are part of god we should in the service of god. don't take material meaning that well god has allowed to kill them for our taste(body ie. sense gratification and not spirit).
rather in protection of life say you are alone in desert, you have nothing to eat then you can in rare case kill to protect yourself because human birth is rare and should be utilized for spirituality. the animal can't.
and also friend we must see what changes we can have in ourselves spiritually because only humans can respect life. lets not give pain to someone for taste buds. again the soul is the same in everyone only body is different thats why st. francis used to call plants and animals, his brothers and sisters.lets begin with not eating non veg. ask your heart its wrong.

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Spleencage wrote:
We have the teeth and acids to chew meat and digest it.
I certainly dont condemn anyone for choosing not to eat meat, but to use our bodily limitations as a reason, is no reason.
I always wondered why it is assumed we are all supposed to live long healthy lives. The body is completely thru growing at age 40.
okay a woman in china lived 110 years + but she was a chain smoker. this means we should also smoke?. one positive aspect can't surpass other many negative aspects. one survived but millions died.
well that was an analogy, you know we can chew and digest human flesh too. to eat anything indiscriminately is a property of animals because they can't choose. i want to say to kill for taste is a sin you are actually facilitating the body against religion and to an extent health also. the grains used to prepare a beef can feed 40 people for ten years. there are innumerable examples
you may confirm that-
Processed red meats identified as a major cause of diabetes, causes cancer.
look you may say that animals are useless.
firstly, then all disabled people are eligible to be eaten. yes there comes the respect towards life, towards another's desire to exist freely so it becomes global.
secondly,without looking at humorous illogical comments. just feel the screaming of that poor defenseless creature. yes you can drop non veg and live a good life.change begins with us.

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May 29, 2012
 
all religion minus islam wrote:
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look you may say that animals are useless.
firstly, then all disabled people are eligible to be eaten...
...because all disabled people are useless?

Just one little comment and your perceived moral high ground disappeared in a puff of acrid smoke.

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Annie Muk wrote:
Vegetarians murder plants on a large scale so let's not hear all of the exaggerated crap about meat eaters again please.
Ps. Nice reply Spleencage.
brother,the point is killing plants !
if a human comes to know he is in some danger, a threat to life he may struggle, fight, scream like hell and try all measures to save himself from the pain .
you don't see the animals screaming in slaughter houses,so you think the piece of meat is like a bread. pick and eat.
humans and animals have very high level of conciousness.

on the other hand plants have almost zero conciousness.
*a wheat , corn ,pulses plants dies on its own after producing the crop so you don't have to kill them. in case of fruits you take the unnecessary portion of the plants they don't need it. eventually the fruit may ripe and rot on the plant but at same time you don't harm the plant contrary to legs and flesh in animals permanently disabling them. lets see what change we can have in ourselves and not in the whole world.
yes prophet muhammad allowed non veg but see the time, place and situation when,where and why he allowed it. in the deserts of arab the didn't have any vegetation there to support the life not facilitation of taste buds they were permitted. but because they took material meaning of spritual message of a spiritual person the kill animals for their convinence.

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May 29, 2012
 
all religion minus islam wrote:
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okay a woman in china lived 110 years + but she was a chain smoker. this means we should also smoke?. one positive aspect can't surpass other many negative aspects. one survived but millions died.
well that was an analogy, you know we can chew and digest human flesh too. to eat anything indiscriminately is a property of animals because they can't choose. i want to say to kill for taste is a sin you are actually facilitating the body against religion and to an extent health also. the grains used to prepare a beef can feed 40 people for ten years. there are innumerable examples
you may confirm that-
Processed red meats identified as a major cause of diabetes, causes cancer.
look you may say that animals are useless.
firstly, then all disabled people are eligible to be eaten. yes there comes the respect towards life, towards another's desire to exist freely so it becomes global.
secondly,without looking at humorous illogical comments. just feel the screaming of that poor defenseless creature. yes you can drop non veg and live a good life.change begins with us.
The smoking analogy isn't an analogy at all. We are all born with the ability to process meat, we're not all born with ability to stave off lung cancer. Eating is not elective, smoking is.

If you are going to use the argument that red meat is a "major cause of diabetes and cancer" ( which its not, BTW) then you might as well say that eating in general causes cancer. All eating, to a certain degree, is toxic.

Yes, I agree that raising cattle expends much plant life. Grass and other things people by& large dont eat.
But our consumption, especially in this country, is radically high and it should be truncated.The portions are too large, the meat is impure, and we consume too often and too fast.

All cancer is 80% random.
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May 30, 2012
 
all religion minus islam wrote:
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humans and animals have very high level of conciousness.
Yet you openly risk offending Moslems with your "minus Islam" nic.
To quote another member, "Just one little comment and your perceived moral high ground disappeared in a puff of acrid smoke."
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Annie Muk wrote:
Vegetarians murder plants on a large scale so let's not hear all of the exaggerated crap about meat eaters again please.
Ps. Nice reply Spleencage.
Most veggies in the US are genetically modified in one way or another. That can't be good for you.
Almost no strain is completely "clean" due to cross pollination.
And what about the Billions of yeast bacteria you murder every time you bake a loaf of bread???
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Devious Dude wrote:
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Most veggies in the US are genetically modified in one way or another. That can't be good for you.
Almost no strain is completely "clean" due to cross pollination.
And what about the Billions of yeast bacteria you murder every time you bake a loaf of bread???
Interesting observations that deserve more attention. Let's start with Monsanto. They've been up to "no good" for decades.
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Annie Muk wrote:
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Interesting observations that deserve more attention. Let's start with Monsanto. They've been up to "no good" for decades.
HAHAHA, I got in when MON was going for $17.

Go drop another basket of fries, loser.
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Devious Dude wrote:
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Most veggies in the US are genetically modified in one way or another. That can't be good for you.
Almost no strain is completely "clean" due to cross pollination.
And what about the Billions of yeast bacteria you murder every time you bake a loaf of bread???
Yeast are fungi, not bacteria. The rest of your post is clueless nonsense too.
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Jun 2, 2012
 
Annie Muk wrote:
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Let's start with Monsanto. They've been up to "no good" for decades.
As I said:

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