Bush is a hero

shovelhead72 wrote:

<quoted text>Fascinating. The willingess to believe this collection of evidence that Obama's birth certificate was falsified, and the refusal to even consider the collection (10 years worth) of evidence that 9/11 was orchestrated within the Bush administration, all wrapped up in one little package...

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BobinTX wrote:

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Better question... what did Doocy do?

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BobinTX wrote:

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I did review the evidence that was collected over 10 years, and the counter claims. I found the evidence supporting the government involvement was flawed, and rejected it. I even posted the "Popular Mechanics" article, twice, disproving those claims for you to review.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/en...
I also reviewed the evidence concerning the long form birth certificate document posted on the White House site. I found that evidence showing it to be a fake to be valid, as does every electronic documentation expert that has looked at it. I could find no counter claims disproving the electronic documentation experts, and I looked. I issued the challenge, but nobody in this forum provided any evidence disproving the experts either.
This is not me saying that obama is not a U.S. citizen, it is me believing the document that the White House has posted to prove his birth place is a fake. I have no way of knowing for sure why obama would post a fraudlent document as proof that he is a natural born American citizen, only he knows why he felt the need to do that. Perhaps it was a diversion to get Donald Trump to call off the investigators he had looking into obama's birth certificate. Maybe it's because the State of Hawaii refused to provide the POTUS with a valid copy of his birth certificate, or maybe they didn't have one to provide to him. Who knows what the reason is, but the birth certificate posted on whitehouse.gov has been shown not to be authentic by many experts in the elecronic document field.

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okboston wrote:

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Added things to the Presidents "I was not born with a Silver Spoon..." statement to make it sound like he meant something else while still saying "the President said....."

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okboston wrote:

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It does not matter what you try to separate, if in fact that document is a fake then in fact Obama is disqualified as President.

okboston wrote:

However, the fact that each of the 50 states along with the voting territories accepted his "evidence" proving to be a citizen of the United States and "natural born" would lead one to believe that in fact it is not a fake.

okboston wrote:

Further, court cases have been held to determine his citizenship and they have upheld the same.

okboston wrote:

Which is why you belong in the basket you lie in, the birther basket.

BobinTX wrote:

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Can't you provide a link so we can see what Doocy actually said? I'm not crazy about "translations". I heard what obama said, something about having to put himself through school, as he wasn't born with a silver spoon.
Didn't the American taxpayer pay for him and Michelle to go to school? Wasn't the queen was whining about that a few years ago... how long it took her and the king to pay back their school loans to the American taxpayers? I'm sure the obama's could have found schools that were less expensive than Harvard and Columbia, if the size of their taxpayer loan was a concern, don't you think?

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BobinTX wrote:

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Who said that, not me? I just said the long form birth certificate document he posted on whitehouse.gov was a fake. Nobody has yet proven that barry was not born in the USA, nor have they proven that he was.
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BZZZzzzz. Wrong. They all accepted the DNC's certification that obama had met the requirements, not his birth certificate. Not one of those 50 states along with the voting territories saw any proof that obama met those requirements, they accepted the DNC's certification.
The fraudlent birth certificate was only produced a year ago, over three years after he ran for pResident. Obviously that document wasn't used for the DNC's pResidential Requirement Certification... it didn't exist.
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They accepted obama's lawyer's claim, without reviewing any evidence to the contrary... the safe route, rather than putting their careers in jeopardy. BTW, I'm not sure it's
"cases", I thought it was "case", Georgia, but I could be wrong, I'm not following them.
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I did challenge you and Willie to provide any proof that the long form birth certificate document posted by obama on whitehouse.gov is legitimate, and not the fake that so many document experts have proven it to be, and an amateurish fake at that. I haven't seen anything from anyone to show that that the expert's evidence is faulty.
Which is why you belong in the basket you lie in, the obama Kool-Aid drinker's basket.

lisw wrote:

There's our teachers, talking abusively to an autistic child and bragging about getting drunk and heaving. At least they got fired but I'll bet they are still drawing a paycheck. They really should be exposed as possible crimminals. I'm sorry but I have an autistic nephew and sure don't want this to happen to him, and I heard too often of teachers abusing kids verbally and of course other kids taking their lead.

lisw wrote:

<quoted text>Obama was on scholarship to Harvard and that's where the fake is imo. He was born here but I believe he passed himself off as from another country in order to obtain the funding.

Chris Clearwater wrote:

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Don't know. Who is Doocy? Does he also kiss Obama's rear like Williams and give him softball questions with iterviews?

WildWeirdWillie wrote:

<quoted text>So, I take it you're not familiar with the role of an ombudsman for a newspaper?
You can believe whatever it is you need to believe, Fearless, but what I provided you is an official statement by the Washington Post that the piece you cut and paste never appeared in that paper.
I'm sure I did say something like what you attribute to me above sometime in the past four years. I learned that opinions don't substantiate opinions long before algore invented the interweb, for cryin' out loud.
Interesting thing about an ombudsman's column in a paper (which here is referred to as a blog on the web) is that it can contain facts AND opinions. I learned how to differentiate between facts and opinions about the same time I learned you can't use an opinion to substantiate an opinion.
If you've got a link to the Washington Post website where the piece appeared, I will freely admit I'm wrong.
Until then, I'll just assume you're retreating to intractable - although OKB may be willing to take this up with you.
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I sympathize with you and that type of behavior should never be tolerated. However, it likely will get worse before it gets better. Beaten for years over things beyond their control now they will have exams taken into account for their evaluations and have not had a payraise in years.
Interestingly enough, it may be those that teach the smartest and brightest that suffer the most. They already score at the top, how much can they improve?
Our education system is collapsing.

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shovelhead72 wrote:

"I love the fact that there are women out there who don’t have a choice and they must go to work and they still have to raise the kids. Thank goodness that we value those people too. And sometimes life isn’t easy for any of us."
~Ann Romney
Well, Ann, "those people" don't appreciate your viewpoint, coming as it does from your lifelong position of privilege, and your good fortune of never having been one of us who don't have the choice to be stay-at-home mothers.
As a sounding board, you're a sponge.
Keep talking though - the more you pat yourself on the back for your choices, the more the working mothers of America (and those that DO value us) will recognize how unimportant you, and your job-killing, millionaire hubby, consider our lack of them to be.
We will remember in November.

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Rudyard Kiplingesque wrote:

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It is because of this that harvard community college should pull barry's law degree.

okboston wrote:

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If all the states require is DNC certification then it does not matter.

okboston wrote:

It is up to the states to decide what to accept. I suggest you work to get your states requirments changed more in line with your thinking.
Prove it is not legit. You hve not submitted any proof that it is not legit.

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shovelhead72 wrote:

"I love the fact that there are women out there who don’t have a choice and they must go to work and they still have to raise the kids. Thank goodness that we value those people too. And sometimes life isn’t easy for any of us."
~Ann Romney
Well, Ann, "those people" don't appreciate your viewpoint, coming as it does from your lifelong position of privilege, and your good fortune of never having been one of us who don't have the choice to be stay-at-home mothers.
As a sounding board, you're a sponge.
Keep talking though - the more you pat yourself on the back for your choices, the more the working mothers of America (and those that DO value us) will recognize how unimportant you, and your job-killing, millionaire hubby, consider our lack of them to be.
We will remember in November.

lisw wrote:

<quoted text>I cannot make myself feel sorry for teachers. There are many professions that haven't had a payraise in years that go year round and certainly do not have the benefits, that require just as much if not more dedication and commitment. There are still some good teachers but it seems more and more that they have gone the route of politicians thinking they can get away with anything and deserve much more than they do.