God's Coffin Found!!! Jesus Had A Son? God is a Grandpa!

"Brace yourself. James Cameron, the man who brought you 'The Titanic' is back with another blockbuster. This time, the ship he's sinking is Christianity.

In a new documentary, Producer Cameron and his director, Simcha Jacobovici, make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected --the cornerstone of Christian faith-- and that his burial cave was discovered near Jerusalem. And, get this, Jesus sired a son with Mary Magdelene.
No, it's not a re-make of "The Da Vinci Codes'. It's supposed to be true.
Let's go back 27 years, when Israeli construction workers were gouging out the foundations for a new building in the industrial park in the Talpiyot, a Jerusalem suburb. of Jerusalem. The earth gave way, revealing a 2,000 year old cave with 10 stone caskets. Archologists were summoned, and the stone caskets carted away for examination. It took 20 years for experts to decipher the names on the ten tombs. They were: Jesua, son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Mathew, Jofa and Judah, son of Jesua.
Israel's prominent archeologist Professor Amos Kloner didn't associate the crypt with the New Testament Jesus. His father, after all, was a humble carpenter who couldn't afford a luxury crypt for his family. And all were common Jewish names.

There was also this little inconvenience that a few miles away, in the old city of Jerusalem, Christians for centuries had been worshipping the empty tomb of Christ at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. Christ's resurrection, after all, is the main foundation of the faith, proof that a boy born to a carpenter's wife in a manger is the Son of God.
But film-makers Cameron and Jacobovici claim to have amassed evidence through DNA tests, archeological evidence and Biblical studies, that the 10 coffins belong to Jesus and his family.
Ever the showman,(Why does this remind me of the impresario in another movie,"King Kong", whose hubris blinds him to the dangers of an angry and very large ape?) Cameron is holding a New York press conference on Monday at which he will reveal three coffins, supposedly those of Jesus of Nazareth, his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene. News about the film, which will be shown soon on Discovery Channel, Britain's Channel 4, Canada's Vision, and Israel's Channel 8, has been a hot blog topic in the Middle East (check out a personal favorite: Israelity Bites) Here in the Holy Land, Biblical Archeology is a dangerous profession. This 90-minute documentary is bound to outrage Christians and stir up a titanic debate between believers and skeptics. Stay tuned."
post was taken from a Time/CNN article on the internet

How should I call you Beljiar? Ms Mrs ?

Its still early, lets wait, before start jump to conclusion!

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Lets stop bickering my system is better than your system , my nation is better than yours, my race is better yours, my religion is better than yours... this will all lead to world wars.---> Instead lets all find Good solutions to our world problems: End famine, disease, ill of the earth...." Lets all DO GOOD deeds!"

Please consider this and think about:
Lets as global community, the masses if given chance, by '"Peaceful means'" work together to get "RID all arms and weapons factories in the world" and "Rid all the bad man-made systems"... that does not serve us that will cause ill-will in this world that lead to Wars, Famines... and ask ourselfs can we live in peace and harmony in this microsm . A human faility . Are we asking for too much?
Human Masses putting Bad leaders into power! So bad leaders putting more bad leader into power!
Mindless and brainless human masses kowtowing to false world political leaders, instititutions, religious intermediaries, popstars... that cause ill will, so please think hard before you worship and put your leaders into office, if given the chance.
Only you as human masses. if given chance must make the wise choice and with discretion on who to put into office and help the weak or else it may all come back to haunt you and your generation after !(Hopefully GOD can intervene and guide us all.)"Ask yourself is your leader serving your interest with pure or heart? Why are fighting each other?.Instead serve the many first with unselfish act and devotion with charitiable acts and without prejudice and serve GOD, the reward - and then we will become enlighten with universe in harmony and .have peace within us. DO GOOD!"
Please WAKE UP PEOPLEs of world you just bunch of maronic idiotics fools, causing more problems such as I'm better then you mentality..., remember divine being just want everyone to love each other! Look at world so called leaders of yesterday and today they all false prophets causing wars, problems ...an all humans mass just follows, kowtow to these false charistimatic human leaders like they are gods; like brainless zombies get them further into destruction of so called human idiotic race! Peace is the answer. So Wake up stupid morinic humans of race, USE little damn brains before puting the same old and few so called false leader(s); which have mass of humans, neighbors, countries... pit agianst each other like damn animals causing the destruction of the so called human race! We as brainless mass of human idiotic of an sorry race need to realize that only we are one that needs to make decision wisely and with discretion before putting those leaders into office... hopefully god will intervene in time to guide us.
From
I also belong to so called " idiotic moronic human of race", So I am also one so called Human Idiot of race: I hoping to resolve in so call time; there will be Peace on earth and Goodwill to all mankind! AMen
IDIOT ONE! Please pass it on!

i agree, we need to wait and see. like i have stated in some threads, it would be hard to believe this is true and we need to wait and see what happens. however, it is very interesting. i wouldn't claim what is stated in that article as being true and i would guess it is not going to be so amazing as they make it out to be at this moment. they want everyone to watch it...money money money. however, again, it seems very interesting to me.

IDIOT ONE wrote:

How should I call you Beljiar? Ms Mrs ?
Its still early, lets wait, before start jump to conclusion!
---
Lets stop bickering my system is better than your system , my nation is better than yours, my race is better yours, my religion is better than yours... this will all lead to world wars.---> Instead lets all find Good solutions to our world problems: End famine, disease, ill of the earth...." Lets all DO GOOD deeds!"
Please consider this and think about:
Lets as global community, the masses if given chance, by '"Peaceful means'" work together to get "RID all arms and weapons factories in the world" and "Rid all the bad man-made systems"... that does not serve us that will cause ill-will in this world that lead to Wars, Famines... and ask ourselfs can we live in peace and harmony in this microsm . A human faility . Are we asking for too much?
Human Masses putting Bad leaders into power! So bad leaders putting more bad leader into power!
Mindless and brainless human masses kowtowing to false world political leaders, instititutions, religious intermediaries, popstars... that cause ill will, so please think hard before you worship and put your leaders into office, if given the chance.
Only you as human masses. if given chance must make the wise choice and with discretion on who to put into office and help the weak or else it may all come back to haunt you and your generation after !(Hopefully GOD can intervene and guide us all.)"Ask yourself is your leader serving your interest with pure or heart? Why are fighting each other?.Instead serve the many first with unselfish act and devotion with charitiable acts and without prejudice and serve GOD, the reward - and then we will become enlighten with universe in harmony and .have peace within us. DO GOOD!"
Please WAKE UP PEOPLEs of world you just bunch of maronic idiotics fools, causing more problems such as I'm better then you mentality..., remember divine being just want everyone to love each other! Look at world so called leaders of yesterday and today they all false prophets causing wars, problems ...an all humans mass just follows, kowtow to these false charistimatic human leaders like they are gods; like brainless zombies get them further into destruction of so called human idiotic race! Peace is the answer. So Wake up stupid morinic humans of race, USE little damn brains before puting the same old and few so called false leader(s); which have mass of humans, neighbors, countries... pit agianst each other like damn animals causing the destruction of the so called human race! We as brainless mass of human idiotic of an sorry race need to realize that only we are one that needs to make decision wisely and with discretion before putting those leaders into office... hopefully god will intervene in time to guide us.
From
I also belong to so called " idiotic moronic human of race", So I am also one so called Human Idiot of race: I hoping to resolve in so call time; there will be Peace on earth and Goodwill to all mankind! AMen
IDIOT ONE! Please pass it on!

Lets stop cut and pasting this same bullshit, IDIOT. Your taking up good space.

beijair wrote:

"Brace yourself. James Cameron, the man who brought you 'The Titanic' is back with another blockbuster. This time, the ship he's sinking is Christianity.
In a new documentary, Producer Cameron and his director, Simcha Jacobovici, make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected --the cornerstone of Christian faith-- and that his burial cave was discovered near Jerusalem. And, get this, Jesus sired a son with Mary Magdelene.
No, it's not a re-make of "The Da Vinci Codes'. It's supposed to be true.
Let's go back 27 years, when Israeli construction workers were gouging out the foundations for a new building in the industrial park in the Talpiyot, a Jerusalem suburb. of Jerusalem. The earth gave way, revealing a 2,000 year old cave with 10 stone caskets. Archologists were summoned, and the stone caskets carted away for examination. It took 20 years for experts to decipher the names on the ten tombs. They were: Jesua, son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Mathew, Jofa and Judah, son of Jesua.
Israel's prominent archeologist Professor Amos Kloner didn't associate the crypt with the New Testament Jesus. His father, after all, was a humble carpenter who couldn't afford a luxury crypt for his family. And all were common Jewish names.
There was also this little inconvenience that a few miles away, in the old city of Jerusalem, Christians for centuries had been worshipping the empty tomb of Christ at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. Christ's resurrection, after all, is the main foundation of the faith, proof that a boy born to a carpenter's wife in a manger is the Son of God.
But film-makers Cameron and Jacobovici claim to have amassed evidence through DNA tests, archeological evidence and Biblical studies, that the 10 coffins belong to Jesus and his family.
Ever the showman,(Why does this remind me of the impresario in another movie,"King Kong", whose hubris blinds him to the dangers of an angry and very large ape?) Cameron is holding a New York press conference on Monday at which he will reveal three coffins, supposedly those of Jesus of Nazareth, his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene. News about the film, which will be shown soon on Discovery Channel, Britain's Channel 4, Canada's Vision, and Israel's Channel 8, has been a hot blog topic in the Middle East (check out a personal favorite: Israelity Bites) Here in the Holy Land, Biblical Archeology is a dangerous profession. This 90-minute documentary is bound to outrage Christians and stir up a titanic debate between believers and skeptics. Stay tuned."
post was taken from a Time/CNN article on the internet

I hope this guys got all of the DNA tests finished, I'm sure the bible belt is all a twitter over this news. They'll be down at the Dairy Queen weeping in their corn dogs over this.

EASY MONEY wrote:

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Lets stop cut and pasting this same bullshit, IDIOT. Your taking up good space.

how much space does it take up? if you don't like it, then, get used to it, that life. you don't always get what you like..ok..unless you are me..haha
peace

EASY MONEY wrote:

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Lets stop cut and pasting this same bullshit, IDIOT. Your taking up good space.

if you are concerned about space, then why did you do a reply and leave the entire quote? take it easy dude.

EASY MONEY wrote:

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I hope this guys got all of the DNA tests finished, I'm sure the bible belt is all a twitter over this news. They'll be down at the Dairy Queen weeping in their corn dogs over this.

yeah, i think it is a big story, if true, it would destroy much of what christians lay faith in. if false, then those that report should be held accountable. i doubt the truth of the story but will reserve judgement until i read the book or see the documentary. the book comes out tomorrow. The Tomb of Jesus Family...i think that is the name. i will keep you posted

i bet john stewart will have something about it on his show and maybe some of the others. i wonder what fox news will do about the story? haha

First - that is like the 8th or 9th repetition of the standard Idiot One post. He posts it in every thread - gets a little boring. Does he have the right to do it? Apparently - since the Moderators have not erased the other repetitions as far as I know. Secondly, I might be wrong, but I believe there is a time limit on the usability of DNA and 1,974 years is over it. Lastly -to prove anything about whose DNA it is they need DNA to compare it too - so let's get the DNA of whoever is Claiming to be The New and Approved Son of God first.
Peace.

And just how did they determine to know DNA make up of God?
Just another way of seperating true believers with those who profess to know God. Not a worry.
In no place is it written Jesus was put in a coffin. Even the Roman soldiers "tesified" the body was stolen as they slept.
Question: what court of law would ever let you "testify" as to what happened when you were asleep?

beijair wrote:

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yeah, i think it is a big story, if true, it would destroy much of what christians lay faith in. if false, then those that report should be held accountable. i doubt the truth of the story but will reserve judgement until i read the book or see the documentary. the book comes out tomorrow. The Tomb of Jesus Family...i think that is the name. i will keep you posted

Actually a lot if not most Christians believe that Jesus ascended to Heaven in a Spiritual State, not physical. That Jesus' grave is found would support that. Also Jesus - read Joshua - was a common name. No matter what is found and/or proved the various Christian Churches will use it to Their advantage - of that you may be certain.

IDIOT ONE wrote:

How should I call you Beljiar? Ms Mrs ?
Its still early, lets wait, before start jump to conclusion!
---
Lets stop bickering my system is better than your system , my nation is better than yours, my race is better yours, my religion is better than yours... this will all lead to world wars.---> Instead lets all find Good solutions to our world problems: End famine, disease, ill of the earth...." Lets all DO GOOD deeds!"
Please consider this and think about:
Lets as global community, the masses if given chance, by '"Peaceful means'" work together to get "RID all arms and weapons factories in the world" and "Rid all the bad man-made systems"... that does not serve us that will cause ill-will in this world that lead to Wars, Famines... and ask ourselfs can we live in peace and harmony in this microsm . A human faility . Are we asking for too much?
Human Masses putting Bad leaders into power! So bad leaders putting more bad leader into power!
Mindless and brainless human masses kowtowing to false world political leaders, instititutions, religious intermediaries, popstars... that cause ill will, so please think hard before you worship and put your leaders into office, if given the chance.
Only you as human masses. if given chance must make the wise choice and with discretion on who to put into office and help the weak or else it may all come back to haunt you and your generation after !(Hopefully GOD can intervene and guide us all.)"Ask yourself is your leader serving your interest with pure or heart? Why are fighting each other?.Instead serve the many first with unselfish act and devotion with charitiable acts and without prejudice and serve GOD, the reward - and then we will become enlighten with universe in harmony and .have peace within us. DO GOOD!"
Please WAKE UP PEOPLEs of world you just bunch of maronic idiotics fools, causing more problems such as I'm better then you mentality..., remember divine being just want everyone to love each other! Look at world so called leaders of yesterday and today they all false prophets causing wars, problems ...an all humans mass just follows, kowtow to these false charistimatic human leaders like they are gods; like brainless zombies get them further into destruction of so called human idiotic race! Peace is the answer. So Wake up stupid morinic humans of race, USE little damn brains before puting the same old and few so called false leader(s); which have mass of humans, neighbors, countries... pit agianst each other like damn animals causing the destruction of the so called human race! We as brainless mass of human idiotic of an sorry race need to realize that only we are one that needs to make decision wisely and with discretion before putting those leaders into office... hopefully god will intervene in time to guide us.
From
I also belong to so called " idiotic moronic human of race", So I am also one so called Human Idiot of race: I hoping to resolve in so call time; there will be Peace on earth and Goodwill to all mankind! AMen
IDIOT ONE! Please pass it on!

when you say man made systems, do you mean god?

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, and Iraq had WMD, and Worldcom was a great investment. You can slant research in any direction you want.

I read the artical http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/schol... Please not e where it will make the film maker a few bucks, but thier thoery don't hold water. Ohh, and for Jews trying to discredit Jesus being the Son of God, whats new to that?

i just watched some news on this and it appears there are some strong clues to point to it being true. either way, it is good for the debate and will encourage more research. more information is a good thing.

Doesn't the religion of Mithra prove that Christianity is false?

Some critics of Christianity teach that the Christian religion was not based upon divine revelation but that it borrowed from pagan sources, Mithra being one of them. They assert that the figure of Mithra has many commonalities with Jesus, too common to be coincidence.
Mithraism was one of the major religions of the Roman Empire which was derived from the ancient Persian god of light and wisdom. The cult of Mithraism was quite prominent in ancient Rome, especially among the military. Mithra was the god of war, battle, justice, faith, and contract. According to Mithraism, Mithra was called the son of God, was born of a virgin, had disciples, was crucified, rose from the dead on the third day, atoned for the sins of mankind, and returned to heaven. Therefore, the critics maintain that Christianity borrowed its concepts from the Mithra cult. But is this the case? Can it be demonstrated that Christianity borrowed from the cult of Mithra as it developed its theology?
First of all, Christianity does not need any outside influence to derive any of its doctrines. All the doctrines of Christianity exists in the Old Testament where we can see the prophetic teachings of Jesus as the son of God (Zech. 12:10), born of a virgin (Isaiah 7:14), was crucified (Psalm 22), the blood atonement (Lev. 17:11), rose from the dead (Psalm 16:10), and salvation by faith (Hab. 2:4). Also, the writers of the gospels were eyewitnesses (or directed by eyewitnesses as were Mark and Luke) who accurately represented the life of Christ. So, what they did was write what Jesus taught as well as record the events of His life, death, and resurrection. In other words, they recorded history, actual events and had no need of fabrication or borrowing.
There will undoubtedly be similarities in religious themes given the agrarian culture. Remember, an agriculturally based society, as was the people of the ancient Mediterranean area, will undoubtedly develop theological themes based upon observable events, i.e., the life, death, and seeming resurrection of life found in crops, in cattle, and in human life. It would only be natural for similar themes to unfold since they are observed in nature and since people created gods related to nature. But, any reading of the Old Testament results in observing the intrusion of God into Jewish history as is recorded in miracles and prophetic utterances. Add to that the incredible archaeological evidence verifying Old Testament cities and events and you have a document based on historical fact instead of mythical fabrication. Furthermore, it is from these Old Testament writings that the New Testament themes were developed.

As you can see, there is no need for any of the Christian writers to borrow from anything other than the Old Testament source in order to establish any Christian doctrine concerning Jesus. If the argument that pagan mythologies predated Christian teachings and therefore Christianity borrowed from them is true, then it must also be truth that the pagan religions borrowed from the Jewish religion because it is older than they are! Given that all of the Christian themes are found in the Old Testament and the Old Testament was begun around 2000 B.C. and completed around 400 B.C., we can then conclude that these pagan religions actually borrowed from Jewish ideas found in the Old Testament. Think about it, the idea of a blood sacrifice and a covering for sin is found in the first three chapters of Genesis when God covered Adam and Eve with animals skins and prophesied the coming of the Messiah.
Furthermore, those who wrote about Jesus in the New Testament were Jews (or under the instruction of Jews) who were devoted to the legitimacy and inspiration of the Old Testament scriptures and possessed a strong disdain for pagan religions. It would have been blasphemous for them to incorporate pagan sources into what they saw as the fulfillment of the sacred Old Testament scriptures concerning the Messiah. Also, since they were writing about Jesus, they were writing based upon what He taught: truth, love, honesty, integrity, etc. Why then would they lie and make up stories and suffer great persecution, hardships, ridicule, arrest, beatings, and death all for known lies and fabrications from paganism? It doesn't make sense.
At best, Mithraism only had some common themes with Christianity (and Judaism) which were recorded in both the Old and New Testaments. What is far more probable is that as Mithraism developed, it started to adopt Christian concepts.

"Allegations of an early Christian dependence on Mithraism have been rejected on many grounds. Mithraism had no concept of the death and resurrection of its god and no place for any concept of rebirth -- at least during its early stages...During the early stages of the cult, the notion of rebirth would have been foreign to its basic outlook...Moreover, Mithraism was basically a military cult. Therefore, one must be skeptical about suggestions that it appealed to nonmilitary people like the early Christians."1

What is more probable is that with the explosive nature of the Christian church in the 1st and 2nd century, other cult groups started to adapt themselves to take advantage of some of the teachings found in Christianity.

"While there are several sources that suggest that Mithraism included a notion of rebirth, they are all post-Christian. The earliest...dates from the end of the second century A.D."2

Therefore, even though there are similarities between Christianity and Mithraism, it is up to the critics to prove that one borrowed from the other. But, considering that the writers of the New Testament were Jews who shunned pagan philosophies and that the Old Testament has all of the themes found in Christianity, it is far more probable that if any borrowing was done, it was done by the pagan religions that wanted to emulate the success of Christianity.
As for me and my house, we shall worship the Lord.

Lowell wrote:

And just how did they determine to know DNA make up of God?
Just another way of seperating true believers with those who profess to know God. Not a worry.
In no place is it written Jesus was put in a coffin. Even the Roman soldiers "tesified" the body was stolen as they slept.
Question: what court of law would ever let you "testify" as to what happened when you were asleep?

I can probably say that Jesus was popular among the roman soldiers too. What a breath of fresh air Jesus must have been among those jewish freaks they had to deal with.

Lowell wrote:

And just how did they determine to know DNA make up of God?

what they do is get a sample from all the people in the world & put it in a blender & then blend, of course, do that testing stuff & presto: that is the dna of god.

cool, huh?