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“Steaming hunk”

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Jun 3, 2012
 
Lily the aborter wrote:
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You brought the information here and made it everyone's business. No one would have known if you would have kept it to yourself, genius.
Oh I agree, but it was part of an APOLOGY to an earlier poster.

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AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>My husbands brother and his wife are the type of people who go to church every Sunday morning and night and Wednesdays. They attend revivals anywhere there is one and vacation bible school every summer. The short version is, they are in church every time the door is open. Their kids were raised in church too. When two of the girls were teens 15 and 17, both got pregnant. The 15 year old first. They allowed their sons teen friends to spend the night and didn't expect there would be any sex. They did the same with their oldest girl who had had a bad crush on a boy she went to church with since she was like 12 years old. She was good friends with his sister and would often spend the night at his house. It happened right under the noses of adults both times. I don't know what I would do if my 13 year old got pregnant (if I had one) that is a tough situation to be in because to me a child of 13 doesn't fully understand what it takes to be a parent or to be pregnant and give birth. I would lean more towards terminating the pregnancy, it's just too dangerous for a child that young to give birth.
Props to you, thank you for understanding.

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Props to you, thank you for understanding.
BS. They're just lousy parents, too. Church isn't contraception or education. They substituted their religion for parenting and knowledge.
You're a lousy parent. Quit trying to excuse your lack of parenting after you've told us just how bad you were at it.
You're either lying about it all, or you're a terrible parent.
Either way, you're a pathetic waste of space.

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Jun 3, 2012
 
NWmoon wrote:
<quoted text>BS. They're just lousy parents, too. Church isn't contraception or education. They substituted their religion for parenting and knowledge.
You're a lousy parent. Quit trying to excuse your lack of parenting after you've told us just how bad you were at it.
You're either lying about it all, or you're a terrible parent.
Either way, you're a pathetic waste of space.
Exactly. Sex was never discussed because they thought "IT" would never happen. I started discussing the biology of a male and female with my son when he asked what a tampon was. As he got older we progressed to sex and birth control, responsibility and options. I never made him feel "shy" about asking questions. He's 28 and kid free.

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superwilly wrote:
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Props to you, thank you for understanding.
I'm not excusing you, you should have known or at the very least prepared her 3 years prior to being 13.
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superwilly wrote:
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No, just saying that even the most diligent parent cannot supervise thier child %100 of the time, you do trust adult supervision at thier age appropriate activities.
Well brought up young ladies with a sense of right and wrong and deep respect for their parents wishes, do NOT have sex at 13 years old. A 13 year old doesn't need to be supervised 24/7 and 100% of the time if she is responsible for reasonably good decision making. What she DID doesn't just come out of the blue without any forewarning, DICK.
You are making this entire story up, you had a very troubled child or you were a lousy parent.

“Steaming hunk”

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Jun 3, 2012
 
NWmoon wrote:
<quoted text>BS. They're just lousy parents, too. Church isn't contraception or education. They substituted their religion for parenting and knowledge.
You're a lousy parent. Quit trying to excuse your lack of parenting after you've told us just how bad you were at it.
You're either lying about it all, or you're a terrible parent.
Either way, you're a pathetic waste of space.
Quit trying to condemn others.

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Lyndi wrote:
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Well brought up young ladies with a sense of right and wrong and deep respect for their parents wishes, do NOT have sex at 13 years old. A 13 year old doesn't need to be supervised 24/7 and 100% of the time if she is responsible for reasonably good decision making. What she DID doesn't just come out of the blue without any forewarning, DICK.
You are making this entire story up, you had a very troubled child or you were a lousy parent.
None of the above, just a human being.

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AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly. Sex was never discussed because they thought "IT" would never happen. I started discussing the biology of a male and female with my son when he asked what a tampon was. As he got older we progressed to sex and birth control, responsibility and options. I never made him feel "shy" about asking questions. He's 28 and kid free.
I discussed sexuality ad nauseum with myu kids. Why would anybody assume otherwise?
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superwilly wrote:
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She had all the options. She made the decision to give birth and keep the child all by herself. She was given full counselling by the best ob/gyn clinic in this city. Reference the state law I referenced in an earler post. She kept the child, was the custodial parent while finishing school. They (my daughter and my grandson) stayed in my home.
What the he-- Do you think I didnt give my daughter the best medical care and counselling at the best ob/gyn clinic in this city? I drove her to the appointments. I made sure every competent counsellor was available for her. I even requested help through the ob/gyn clinic regarding counselling for her and followed up. I know the doctor and trusted his professional staff.
Regardless of my views on abortion I gave her the best ob/gyn care and counselling. They could not tell me what they discussed with her due to patient/doctor confidentiality and probably about a hundred other laws.
Likewise it is none of YOUR business!
Oh hush up with the "SHE had all the options. SHE made the decisions." She should have lost that privilege when she decided to get pregnant. She was a KID and you clearly had no influence over her AT all.

Had my 13 year old done this, I would have made the decision and it would have been quick and non negotiable with one trip to a facility where she could obtain an abortion. Immediately and with NO TALK because my children would have had enough respect to follow MY wishes on this one.

"She made the decisions." LOL -----> Not if she'd been under my roof. DICK.

Quit trying to excuse your failures.

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AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not excusing you, you should have known or at the very least prepared her 3 years prior to being 13.
I didn't presume that you were excusing me.

I was actively involved and openly discussing sexuality.

My wife also was on board, as well as having ob/gyn visits as soon as puberty hit. We were diligent.

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Jun 3, 2012
 
AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly. Sex was never discussed because they thought "IT" would never happen. I started discussing the biology of a male and female with my son when he asked what a tampon was. As he got older we progressed to sex and birth control, responsibility and options. I never made him feel "shy" about asking questions. He's 28 and kid free.
Mine are kid free, too. I didn't just close my eyes and hope, I TAUGHT them and I kept track of them.
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superwilly wrote:
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None of the above, just a human being.
You don't belong on an abortion thread.
You belong on a parenting 101 thread.
You give a whole new meaning to ignorant. DICK.
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superwilly wrote:
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I discussed sexuality ad nauseum with myu kids. Why would anybody assume otherwise?
Your child had problems and you missed the warning signs. I am TELLING you well adjusted, happy 13 year olds from stable homes DON'T DO what yours did.
You're full of shi#.

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Jun 3, 2012
 
Roadrunner wrote:
HA HA HA HA HA!! That laugh was the best birthday gift you could have given me!!! Proven you're right? Only in your little head. LMAO!!!<quoted text>
Excellent rebuttal. Pointless and absent of facts. Just like everything else you've posted. Thanks for playing, though.

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AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>You would vote to allow the Government to make medical decisions for American citizens? It's not going to stop at just women and abortion.
It's not a medical decision. That's just the farce people toss out when they're trying to justify killing babies.

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AyakaNeo wrote:
<quoted text>Well yes I can, a fetus cannot survive outside the uterus in the first trimester.
Right now. There wasn't a time when it couldn't survive outside the uterus in the second semester.

That changed.

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Roadrunner wrote:
For whom? For the woman who would most likely die if she doesn't have an abortion? Or for the fetus who has such a terrible abnorality that it won't survive very long past the birth, and is in agony when it is alive? You want these to be delivered for what reason? To make YOUR conscience feel better? It's not up to you, and late term abortions are only supposed to be performed for medical reasons. And that is the ONLY reason I would (myself, and I'm sure quite a few others on this thread from what I've seen) would support one.<quoted text>
For the child who will absolutely die if there is one.

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superwilly wrote:
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Quit trying to condemn others.
Quit butting into the medical decisions of women. You have no place there, no business even telling us your opinion on it.
It has never been any of your business and will never be any of your business.
YOU brought the situation up and told us what a LOUSY STUPID IRRESPONSIBLE parent you've been. You did that.
Quit trying to make excuses for it. You can't even run your own life, you've got no place saying that women who abort are wrong, sinning or any other judgement of yours. NOT YOUR BUSINESS EVER.

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superwilly wrote:
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None of the above, just a human being.
Nope, you're a liar or a lousy excuse of a parent.
You let your 12/13 year old be raped, give birth, then let the grandchild be abused.
Make all the excuses you want, we all know that if that's true, you're a stinking lousy parent who wasn't involved, and didn't care enough about your child to be sure she could complete her childhood before becoming a parent herself.
You are a waste of skin, oxygen and water.

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