Roadrunner

Perry, MI

#217636 Apr 27, 2012
I seem to have put Grunt in the corner where he belongs. He calls me a liar and tells me to present links....and I called him on it. Now he ignores it. He also won't answer questions posed to him, skirts around it instead and accuses me of not knowing how to not get pregnant. Does this guy ever sleep? When the hell does he take care of his supposed twins who defied all medical history and had formed, 4 chambered hearts, at 5 weeks gestation, when that's not how it happens. LMAO!! I'm waiting for the "reported" posts to start since he can't answer my questions, or refute what I've posted through the course of the night getting caught up.
Sorry about all those posts at once too. It seems like a lot over a night time, because no one else was posting. Maybe I should simply ignore his ignorance now, now that I've pointed it out and called him on it. Maybe he'll go scurrying over to his other fave thread. I may just have to go pay him a visit over there as well.:)

Since: Apr 12

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#217637 Apr 27, 2012
Roadrunner wrote:
http://www.topix.net/forum/top stories/T0SOT217PULC4RBPV/p103 61
Post that ends in 098. I decided it wouldn't be that hard to find it after all. I believe it's the last post on the page.
Dare I request an apology for calling me a liar now?<quoted text>
No. You can provide evidence of your claim. There is no post on that page where I state babies have been placed back in the womb.
Roadrunner

Perry, MI

#217638 Apr 27, 2012
Grunt56 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, you've done a lot of talking about facts. You haven't actually provided any.
"Heart and Circulatory System

By 5 weeks old, BabyCenter says a fetus' heart starts to beat. This is the first organ that begins to work. There are two chambers to the heart at 5 weeks old, each one pumping separately. The heart will then divide into four chambers and begin to function, helping to develop the circulatory system. Blood pumps and travels through the entire body at a regular rhythm, making all additional developments of organs, bones and muscles possible.

Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/81426-week-... ;
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#217639 Apr 27, 2012
LightForce wrote:
<quoted text>
I never said it wasn't biased. It's biased towards the truth.
But I'll play fair with you. You can show me your sources too.
You don't GET that my opinion about you and your sense of fair play is formed based on history, it's non negotiable and it's set in stone.

Pretend you are pregnant and live with it.
Oh wait, you've already proved you can't.
You gave away your last little inconvenience.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#217640 Apr 27, 2012
Roadrunner wrote:
Really? What about a 5 week old embryo having a formed heart? Want to try that one again? At 5 weeks, it's basically a tube, with two chambers. Not four. You did not see a formed heart in your twins at 5 weeks gestation. I provided facts about that, and I can do it again if you wish for me to prove you a liar, and so uneducated......again.<quot ed text>
No, I did not see a fully formed heart. At 10 weeks, I did see a fully formed child. At 22 weeks I did not see a fully formed child. People change from conception to death.

A heart is still a heart. You're arguing semantics now, because you've already lost your point.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#217641 Apr 27, 2012
Roadrunner wrote:
<quoted text>
You wrote, and I quote:
"We're in your business to stay, and getting deeper every year. Until you stop killing babies, get used to it"
Until you stop killing babies. That's accusing someone of murder, since there is no baby in an abortion.
Post #216651
http://www.topix.net/forum/topstories/T0SOT21...
And that was just one wildly selected page that I found you saying such a thing. I just clicked on a page that I knew would take me back a day or two and viola! Accusation of murder. Either change the way you phrase abortion or admit that you're accusing pro-choicers of murder.
You can't read, can you? It's perfectly legal in most cases for you to kill unborn babies.

For now.
Roadrunner

Perry, MI

#217642 Apr 27, 2012
Liar. LOL Keep denying it. It's right there for everyone to read. I asked you where ANYONE had put a baby back into the womb, you said that you did, that it's called an education. Just admit it dude, you said it. It's right there for anyone to read.
You are completely delusional. Even when the evidence is presented on a silver platter, you still deny. HILARIOUS.
And guess what, I've done nothing nor said nothing to claim a "report" against me, so you can't have it removed like you did OCB'S posts.
Grunt56 wrote:
<quoted text>
No. You can provide evidence of your claim. There is no post on that page where I state babies have been placed back in the womb.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#217643 Apr 27, 2012
Roadrunner wrote:
And yet, you STILL avoid the initial question. Why is that? I know how to try to prevent pregnancy. Birth control fails. Even tubal ligations (my form of BC) can fail. I think I told you that I've taken precautions against pregnancy in that post. Now why is it you won't answer my questions. And why have you totally ignored the many other posts where I post information refuting your claims? Want to dare call me ignorant and uneducated again? I believe in the past couple hours of insomnia, I've wiped the floor with you and your "facts". Go ahead, answer my question. Why should I be forced to remain pregnant, given my circumstances, if I were to become so?<quoted text>
Do you need a class on how to not get pregnant?
Roadrunner

Perry, MI

#217644 Apr 27, 2012
No, I'm arguing with an idiot. You claimed that at 5 weeks you saw your twins heart beat. Do you want me to go back and find that to prove you wrong again? You saw a fully formed child at 10 weeks, but didn't at 22 weeks? What happened? And I thought they were twins, so you would have or not have seen two of them.
And why haven't you answered my other question yet?
I haven't lost anything. You're trying so hard to keep your head above water.....and you're losing the battle. But you keep trying no matter what. I give you kudos for that. Even when I present clear evidence, you STILL deny it! Cracks me up.
Keep trying to dance with me......you won't win. Just admit defeat.
Grunt56 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I did not see a fully formed heart. At 10 weeks, I did see a fully formed child. At 22 weeks I did not see a fully formed child. People change from conception to death.
A heart is still a heart. You're arguing semantics now, because you've already lost your point.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#217645 Apr 27, 2012
Roadrunner wrote:
I seem to have put Grunt in the corner where he belongs. He calls me a liar and tells me to present links....and I called him on it. Now he ignores it. He also won't answer questions posed to him, skirts around it instead and accuses me of not knowing how to not get pregnant. Does this guy ever sleep? When the hell does he take care of his supposed twins who defied all medical history and had formed, 4 chambered hearts, at 5 weeks gestation, when that's not how it happens. LMAO!! I'm waiting for the "reported" posts to start since he can't answer my questions, or refute what I've posted through the course of the night getting caught up.
Sorry about all those posts at once too. It seems like a lot over a night time, because no one else was posting. Maybe I should simply ignore his ignorance now, now that I've pointed it out and called him on it. Maybe he'll go scurrying over to his other fave thread. I may just have to go pay him a visit over there as well.:)
In the corner? You've established you don't even understand the topic you discuss. Seriously. I'm consistently amazed at the lack of education attained by people who think it's perfectly ok to kill unborn babies.
Roadrunner

Perry, MI

#217646 Apr 27, 2012
I can read just fine. I just linked to a random post where you accused people who are pro-choice or those who have abortions as murderers. Again, complete denial in the face of facts. Yes, that pesky word again.....I know how much people who are as ignorant as you are hate those pesky little things...facts. It's like a four letter word to you, isn't it?
Grunt56 wrote:
<quoted text>
You can't read, can you? It's perfectly legal in most cases for you to kill unborn babies.
For now.
Roadrunner

Perry, MI

#217647 Apr 27, 2012
Do you often repeat yourself? LOL I knew you couldn't answer the question. Because the answer is I have every reason and every right to end a pregnancy if my form of birth control fails. You didn't surprise me by not answering by the way. I knew it was too tough for you. And you have the nerve to call me uneducated. HA HA!
Grunt56 wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you need a class on how to not get pregnant?
Roadrunner

Perry, MI

#217648 Apr 27, 2012
I see you're going to your standard go to reply when you have no other reply to back up your claims. Trust me, except for one or two people here, we ALL know that it's you who has the lack of an education. And obviously a job. How is that welfare working out for you, Mr. Responsibility. You're a joke.
Grunt56 wrote:
<quoted text>
In the corner? You've established you don't even understand the topic you discuss. Seriously. I'm consistently amazed at the lack of education attained by people who think it's perfectly ok to kill unborn babies.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#217649 Apr 27, 2012
Roadrunner wrote:
<quoted text>
"Heart and Circulatory System
By 5 weeks old, BabyCenter says a fetus' heart starts to beat. This is the first organ that begins to work. There are two chambers to the heart at 5 weeks old, each one pumping separately. The heart will then divide into four chambers and begin to function, helping to develop the circulatory system. Blood pumps and travels through the entire body at a regular rhythm, making all additional developments of organs, bones and muscles possible.
Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/81426-week-... ;
Thanks for proving my point. What's that say? Oh yeah. The heart starts to beat.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#217650 Apr 27, 2012
Roadrunner wrote:
I can read just fine. I just linked to a random post where you accused people who are pro-choice or those who have abortions as murderers. Again, complete denial in the face of facts. Yes, that pesky word again.....I know how much people who are as ignorant as you are hate those pesky little things...facts. It's like a four letter word to you, isn't it? <quoted text>
No you didn't. Claiming something is true doesn't make it so.

If your point is so weak you must lie, why continue to support it?

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#217651 Apr 27, 2012
Roadrunner wrote:
Do you often repeat yourself? LOL I knew you couldn't answer the question. Because the answer is I have every reason and every right to end a pregnancy if my form of birth control fails. You didn't surprise me by not answering by the way. I knew it was too tough for you. And you have the nerve to call me uneducated. HA HA!<quoted text>
Sometimes when talking to really slow people, you have to repeat yourself many times before they get it. Repetition is a great learning tool.
Roadrunner

Perry, MI

#217652 Apr 27, 2012
Another accusation of criminal activity by Grunt:

"So, let's tally the score, shall we?

Thus far, every single baby killer has completely abandoned their position and resorted to lies and personal attacks.

I guess we've established where the low brow intellect lies.

Let's see if there is an intelligent baby killer that can pick up the ball where these to criminals have left off."

Post # 215810
http://www.topix.net/forum/topstories/T0SOT21...
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#217653 Apr 27, 2012
Grunt56 wrote:
<quoted text>
No. I said you shouldn't get pregnant. Do you need a class on how to not get pregnant?
Yes, where are the classes being held for the 40 million US men from the last 40 years who were careless with their sperm?

How to Keep Your Zipper Up for Beginners
How to Say No For Beginners
Men Who Set Up Their Sperm for Slaughter
Accomplice to Killing Babies 101
Male Masturbation To Prevent Murder
Spermazoa Of Today May Be Murdered Tomorrow
Sperm is Really a Baby
Boys Being Boys Should Be Incarcerated

Where ARE all those guys anyway?
MIA?
I'm shocked.
Roadrunner

Perry, MI

#217654 Apr 27, 2012
Here we go:
"I have twins. I followed their development from 5 weeks. We saw the heartbeat around then. I watched them grow, move, dream, fight in the womb, kick, stretch, etc. They were developing people. They reacted to touch, sound, and light very early. We learn more about what takes place in the womb every day. We don't know what they feel or think."

Post # 215527

http://www.topix.net/forum/topstories/T0SOT21...

You saw the heartbeat around 5 weeks. This post is where you said it. I refuted it. Do wish me to prove anything else you've said?
STILL OCB

Kissimmee, FL

#217655 Apr 27, 2012
Grunt56 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure she does, if she can find enough people that agree with her. That's the beauty of America.
And the beauty of America has much to do with our Constitutional rights.

"Abortion and Privacy

Supreme Court views abortion as a "privacy right" and a "liberty claim"
Abortion is protected by the Fourteenth Amendment, informed by the First, Third, Fourth, Fifth, and Ninth Amendments"

http://www.shmoop.com/right-to-privacy/aborti...

"Privacy Rights and Personal Autonomy

The U.S Constitution safeguards the rights of Americans to privacy and personal autonomy. Although the Constitution does not explicitly provide for such rights, the U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted the Constitution protect these rights, specifically in the areas of marriage, procreation, abortion, private consensual homosexual activity, and medical treatment.

State and federal laws may limit some of these rights to privacy, as long as the restrictions meet tests that the Supreme Court has set forth, each involving a balancing of an individual's right to privacy against the state's compelling interests. Such compelling interests include protecting public morality and the health of its citizens and improving the quality of life."

http://www.justia.com/constitutional-law/docs...

Yep- we agree on that much- the beauty of America which includes our Constitutional right to privacy which our Supreme Court has ruled includes abortion.

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