Prices rise, patience thins in sanctions-hit Iran

but who is responsible for it - criminal politicians from usa ( obama, clinton, biden )and their sanctions, which lead Iranian nation ( poor, innocent people ) to disaster.

These sanctions are by almost every civilized country on earth, including the one you are squatting in.

The leaders of Iran are responsible for it, you fool. They have threatened to blow Israel away, they have implored Muslims to kill Jews all around the globe, they have funded terrorism in numerous places, they have supplied Al qaeda and the Taliban, and they are not fully cooperating with the IAEA and have been caught with all kinds of things that belie their claims of peaceful use of nuclear energy. Their poor, innocent people are poor because Iran's leadership fritters away the huge income from their oil, spending it on weapons of all sorts and military adventures to Cuba, Venezuela, and N Korea, leaving little for those poor people. Their people are not innocent. They are aware of what their leaders are doing and they can change that with their own Persian Spring.

Kenhunt wrote:

These sanctions are by almost every civilized country on earth, including the one you are squatting in.
The leaders of Iran are responsible for it, you fool. They have threatened to blow Israel away, they have implored Muslims to kill Jews all around the globe, they have funded terrorism in numerous places, they have supplied Al qaeda and the Taliban, and they are not fully cooperating with the IAEA and have been caught with all kinds of things that belie their claims of peaceful use of nuclear energy. Their poor, innocent people are poor because Iran's leadership fritters away the huge income from their oil, spending it on weapons of all sorts and military adventures to Cuba, Venezuela, and N Korea, leaving little for those poor people. Their people are not innocent. They are aware of what their leaders are doing and they can change that with their own Persian Spring.

Sorry, but they have not done any of the above...and as far as cooperating with the IAEA..all thier plants are being monitord..what more do you want?

Steven Hassan wrote:

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Sorry, but they have not done any of the above...and as far as cooperating with the IAEA..all thier plants are being monitord..what more do you want?

You cannot be that naive.

Kenhunt wrote:

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You cannot be that naive.

It seems you are teh naive one.

Iran never said they were going ot wipe anyone off the map.

Our own intell guys say Iran IS NOT building any nukes.

The ONLY ones calling for war are the US and Israel.

Kenhunt wrote:

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You cannot be that naive.

PS: They offered to HELP US fight the Taliban.

They and Al-Queda are ideological opposits..hence they have nothign to do with them..and again, they offered to turn over those taht had crossed their border.

Supporting freedom fighters is not illegal..we do it all the time.

If they like the sanctions...they are going to love the cruise missiles!

Steven Hassan wrote:

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Sorry, but they have not done any of the above...and as far as cooperating with the IAEA..all thier plants are being monitord..what more do you want?

I do not know what news you recieve, but Iran's main Imam made nuke threats against Israel and the USA and Europe again just YESTERDAY!! He even went on to say he wants to bring on war to bring on the arrival of the MAHDI!! That is sanity and peace talk to you?????? If it is, then you need to go check yourself in to the mental hospital...Iran is the only goverment right now that is threatening Nuke war on everyone.

Steven Hassan wrote:

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It seems you are teh naive one.
Iran never said they were going ot wipe anyone off the map.
Our own intell guys say Iran IS NOT building any nukes.
The ONLY ones calling for war are the US and Israel.

You do know how to Goole?

"In these remarks to worshippers, Khamenei reiterated Iran's threat to wipe Israel —“a cancerous tumor that should be cut and will be cut”— off the map..."

"Our dear Imam (referring to Ayatollah Khomeini) said that the occupying regime must be wiped off the map and this was a very wise statement..."

"During last Friday’s prayers in Tehran, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei...reiterated Iran’s threat to wipe Israel —“a cancerous tumor that should be cut and will be cut”..."

"Top U.S. intelligence officials say Iran is keeping open the option to develop nuclear weapons, but has not yet made the decision to build a bomb.... makes such a decision, it will be capable of producing a nuclear weapon later this year..."

NATO, Saudi Arabia and other Arab states, Britain, and others would support the attack if it came to pass. I am not an advocate for attacking Iran, nor for Israel to attack Iran. However, I agree that Iran must not have a nuclear capability.

it seems that ,,leaders ,, of usa ( or maybe they are rather no leaders of USA, they are rather chieftains of Israel ) want to destroy lives of Iranian citizens.

Grs wrote:

it seems that ,,leaders ,, of usa ( or maybe they are rather no leaders of USA, they are rather chieftains of Israel ) want to destroy lives of Iranian citizens.

The USA does not want war with Iran, and have nothing against the Iranian people....we do have a problem with your leaders threatening to send missles to the USA from ships and threatening Europe and others with nuke weapons. If you want peace, great so do we...your people should take out that little midget you have running your country.

Iran is not Afagnistan,Iraq, or somethig else...

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JohnQ wrote:

Iran is not Afagnistan,Iraq, or somethig else...
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So,...what is your point? That we should let people threaten with nuke warheads??? No, that is not what is going to happen....an Attack on the USA by Iran..would mean a nuke war that will end the entire world...even yours...so..pray it does not happen.

Mi_nina wrote:

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The USA does not want war with Iran, and have nothing against the Iranian people....we do have a problem with your leaders threatening to send missles to the USA from ships and threatening Europe and others with nuke weapons. If you want peace, great so do we...your people should take out that little midget you have running your country.

U.S. foreign policy for last many decades indicates otherwise. Can you name one instance where Iran initiated a war? Compare to the U.S.

Also, consider the U.S. role in toppling a democratically elected government in Iran in 1953 and support for a ruthless dictator and murderous secret police. Consider the fact that the U.S. has recently launched unprovoked invasions and occupations of Iran's neighbors Afghanistan to the east and Iraq to the west...

I do not care what happened in America before I was born. I speak for the 99 percent of AMERICAN PEOPLE right now on the streets, not the people in the goverment buildings...the AMERICAN PEOPLE do not dislike the Iranian people...the AMERICAN PEOPLE are sick of wars and want no part in another.( not saying we would not defend ourselves if we were attacked)...The only problem the AMERICAN PEOPLE have with Iran is the govt leaders there that keep threatening the world with NUKES!!

Mi_nina wrote:

I do not care what happened in America before I was born. I speak for the 99 percent of AMERICAN PEOPLE right now on the streets, not the people in the goverment buildings...the AMERICAN PEOPLE do not dislike the Iranian people...the AMERICAN PEOPLE are sick of wars and want no part in another.( not saying we would not defend ourselves if we were attacked)...The only problem the AMERICAN PEOPLE have with Iran is the govt leaders there that keep threatening the world with NUKES!!

Well you need to start caring, because you are seriously misinformed. Our leaders are much more of a threat to the AMERICAN PEOPLE than Iran is. And it is OUR COUNTRY and OUR ALLIES that are RIGHT NOW using radiological weapons (depleted uranium munitions) against many people of many other nations. When these munitions strike a hard targets, they burn and create a toxic dust that is radioactive, with a half-life of 4.3 BILLION years, and chemically toxic forever.

And while you may not care what our leaders did before you were born, the people in places like Laos and Vietnam and Cambodia HAVE to care, because American bombs are STILL killing their sons/daughters/brothers/sister s/husbands/wives. Children in these countries have to be taught that cluster-bomblets are not toys...(and of course there are the chemical poisons that contaminate playgrounds and neighborhoods that they can't see...)

Bill wrote:

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U.S. foreign policy for last many decades indicates otherwise. Can you name one instance where Iran initiated a war? Compare to the U.S.
Also, consider the U.S. role in toppling a democratically elected government in Iran in 1953 and support for a ruthless dictator and murderous secret police. Consider the fact that the U.S. has recently launched unprovoked invasions and occupations of Iran's neighbors Afghanistan to the east and Iraq to the west...

Iran has initiated and supported wars by proxy on several occasions. You know that, so leave that bullshit behind us. The government of Iran in 1953 was not democratically elected at all; the guy who was ousted was not elected to his office by the people, so leave the BS at home and stop going back six decades. Afghanistan was the base for the terrorists who had committed mayhem in several places, and you know it, so that is another pile you can forego. The second Gulf war was indeed in error, but we stayed and left it as best we could rather than just hit and run. And our newly elected president extended his hand to Iran and had it slapped away.

Bill wrote:

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Well you need to start caring, because you are seriously misinformed. Our leaders are much more of a threat to the AMERICAN PEOPLE than Iran is. And it is OUR COUNTRY and OUR ALLIES that are RIGHT NOW using radiological weapons (depleted uranium munitions) against many people of many other nations. When these munitions strike a hard targets, they burn and create a toxic dust that is radioactive, with a half-life of 4.3 BILLION years, and chemically toxic forever.
And while you may not care what our leaders did before you were born, the people in places like Laos and Vietnam and Cambodia HAVE to care, because American bombs are STILL killing their sons/daughters/brothers/sister s/husbands/wives. Children in these countries have to be taught that cluster-bomblets are not toys...(and of course there are the chemical poisons that contaminate playgrounds and neighborhoods that they can't see...)

Liar. DU is not a radiological weapon at all. DU emits less radiation than naturally found uranium. The World Health Organization of the UN states, "that no risk of reproductive, developmental, or carcinogenic effects have been reported in humans due to DU exposure." But of course you knew that too, so your first point, a deliberate lie, is bullshit. Calling out Cambodia is a bit of bullshit, since their leaders killed their own by the thousands, and like the NVA and VC planted antipersonnel bombs in countless numbers. And if you are speaking in defense of Iran, you must be wearing blinders not to mention the environmental conditions there. You want to be an apologist for the despotic dictators of Iran, do a better job.

His name is hassan go figure!

Kenhunt wrote:

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Iran has initiated and supported wars by proxy on several occasions. You know that, so leave that bullshit behind us.

Name a few. Then name a few U.S.-sponsored proxy wars... or heck, maybe the actual "police actions"/"humanitari an interventions"/"kine tic" something-or-other will establish which nation is more of a threat to world peace.

Kenhunt wrote:

The government of Iran in 1953 was not democratically elected at all; the guy who was ousted was not elected to his office by the people, so leave the BS at home and stop going back six decades.

We can quibble about what it means to be "democratically elected" all day (so, for example, in the U.S. the president is not elected by the people... but then we certainly don't have representative government here, do we?). Prime Minister Mossaddegh had a great deal of popular support, considerably more than our "elected officials" in Congress do currently.

According to Wikipedia, "The 1953 Iranian coup d'état ... was the overthrow of the democratically elected government of Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh on 19 August 1953, orchestrated by the intelligence agencies of the United Kingdom and the United States under the name TPAJAX Project."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax

Kenhunt wrote:

Afghanistan was the base for the terrorists who had committed mayhem in several places, and you know it, so that is another pile you can forego. The second Gulf war was indeed in error, but we stayed and left it as best we could rather than just hit and run. And our newly elected president extended his hand to Iran and had it slapped away.

Many so-called "terrorists" in Afghanistan got their funding and training directly from the U.S. or through U.S. proxies like Pakistan. Also, a strong case can be made that the U.S. has a much bigger base of operations for "terrorists" within our own borders.

Our newly appointed president (because remember that Americans are given a "choice" of pre-chosen corporate-owned candidate A and corporate-owned candidate B, both representing largely the same corporate interests but certainly not the interests of the American people... and even then this pretend "choice" must pass through the filters of a corrupt voting system, a controlled corporate media, the "Electoral College," etc...) extended his middle finger toward Iran.

If the U.S. had some foreign power attacking its neighbors without provocation and then engaging in a lot of belligerent saber-rattling (as well as probable covert aggressions in a variety of flavors) as Iran is experiencing now, and if the U.S. didn't have a nuclear arsenal, it would be wanting one desperately.