Biden 'Comfortable' With Gay Marriage

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Vice President Joe Biden offered one of his strongest signs of support yet for gay marriage on Sunday, saying he was 'absolutely comfortable' with the idea that gay and lesbian couples are entitled to the same rights as heterosexual couples.
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must...not...laugh...
Um...you do realize that homosexuals come from heterosexuals about 99.9% of the time, right?
What part of the word "anomaly" do you not understand?

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Um...you do realize that homosexuals come from heterosexuals about 99.9% of the time, right?
Thus they must learn it or choose it rather than inherit it. For it to be completely genetic, bisexuals would have to be the carriers.

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One could pose the same argument for mass murder and war.
By your own analogy AIDS is a blessing as it takes out human beings from the world which is overpopulated.
I really don't care a whit about who is or isnt gay. I work with several gays and my grandson is gay.
I deal in facts.
Homosexual bees cannot colonize and perform no function other than to buzz and die.
Homosexual animals of all species do not reproduce and pass on their genes.
Bisexuality, in some troops of apes is a survival trait (Some populations of Japanese macaques exhibit bisexual survival skills to stay safe and advance in the heirarchy.)
Only in human beings do we attempt to justify an exclusatory anomoly that through evolution was a screening device designed to eliminate perversions of the species.
Your right that homosexuals can't reproduce, but that doesn't make them any less humans. All animals, including humans, will be extinct one day. So it doesn't really matter. We will all die one day so we should all just enjoy the life we have now. It's the only one we will get.

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All I see with people who are anti-gay marriage as being hypocritical and believing all those silly stereotypes. A great deal of erroneous information has already been disseminated in most recent years involving all those silly and untrue stereotypical portrayals of same-sex couples, gay individuals, the gay rights movement, and we can't forget the so called "GAY AGENDA OF DOOM" to undermine the so called American cultural standards in today's society.
With all do respect to the word "marriage" specifically, all of those ignorant misconceptions usually most often translate into a fear that once the LGBT community is permitted to wed then gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgendered people will make a huge mockery of the so called "institution" by treating the marital bond as less than "sacrosanct", or worse, LGBT people will threaten the institution of marriage by dilberately sabotaging it from within. Of course, those fears lie wholly unsupported in fact.
Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgendered citizens of the United States who want to marry the person they love want to marry for much of the same reason heterosexual people do---it's the idea of mutual love, support, and commitment. Indeed, the LGBT community would most likely be the institutions most enthusiast candidates if you ask me, seeking not to destroy the institution of marriage, but rather take part in it, and thereby strengthening the institution. I don't believe that encouraging commitment, openness, and stability undermines the institution of marriage and family---I believe it enhances it.
If conservatives are truly worried about the demise of marriage, why don't they target all of the Las-Vegas style weddings? Why don't conservatives target the no-fault divorce laws? And why don't they go after adultry? Why is it the fixation on one group of people excluded from this so called "institution", the one group of people who could not possibly be responsible for its decline? Well, the answer seems to be most clear. Conservatives say they abhor gay marriage because they value marriage, the real truth here is they abhor gay marriage because they abhor gay people.
Proud married bisexual here,
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Lame.
Exactly what somebody would say knowing that all that I just said is true. I have hundreds of straight male and female friends who also support gay marriage, who are comfortable with themselves and others, and who have absolutely no problem with gay people or their love life, because they don't care. They don't care because it's not affecting their marriage.

People who oppose gay marriage only oppose it, because they dislike gay people.

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If you don't like gay marriage or homosexuality you can move to Iran or some other Islamic shit hole that persecutes gays. Every single developed industrialized country on earth is tolerant of homosexuality. A 2012 poll showed 52% of Americans supported gay marriage. America is the land of the free not land of the authoritarian fascist theocrats.

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Biden proved to be the immoral idiotic Messiah of the homosexuals. More than 90% of Americans do not agree to convert America to the corrupt Sodom and Gomorrah that the Lord destroyed in the biblical stories because he was disgusted. Marriage is defined as unification of man and woman for procreation and keeping the new generation as part of a family. Homosexual relations bring to the self-destruction and to the death of the American society because no new generation is created. It is time to stop the liberal Democrats effort to destroy the American society and bring to its collapse and elimination by the immoral corrupt liberal politicians such as Biden who support the doggie homosexual style as way of life. Liberals are enemies of America because they see human beings as the enemy of the planet like in communistic China where procreation is limited by the communistic regime.
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<quoted text>Your right that homosexuals can't reproduce, but that doesn't make them any less humans. All animals, including humans, will be extinct one day. So it doesn't really matter. We will all die one day so we should all just enjoy the life we have now. It's the only one we will get.
But it does matter. I have had these long discussions with my collegues and my grandson. My collegues are friends that I have had for 20 and 30 plus years.

In the matter of homosexuality, it is a genetic aborrhation that changes the model mindset in instinctual behavior.

Now, that leads to elimination from the species through natural selection as two deviant creatures cannot procreate. They are not intended you yeild offspring.

In nature, with very limited exception, deviant or homosexual creatures are shunned by the group. It is a natural selection thing.

Humans, advanced in their thinking, are better able to communicate their emotions. Emotions drive causes right or wrong.

There has been much give on the side of the straight people as we are able to even be in this place at this time to have this discussion, but there are touchstone issues that will not be overcome.

Speaking from the strictly secular perspective of an old man with a background in animal research, there are some things that simply are the way they are.

It is never in nature up to the anomalies to change the model, but for the model to eliminate the anomalies.

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Biden proved to be the immoral idiotic Messiah of the homosexuals. More than 90% of Americans do not agree to convert America to the corrupt Sodom and Gomorrah that the Lord destroyed in the biblical stories because he was disgusted. Marriage is defined as unification of man and woman for procreation and keeping the new generation as part of a family. Homosexual relations bring to the self-destruction and to the death of the American society because no new generation is created. It is time to stop the liberal Democrats effort to destroy the American society and bring to its collapse and elimination by the immoral corrupt liberal politicians such as Biden who support the doggie homosexual style as way of life. Liberals are enemies of America because they see human beings as the enemy of the planet like in communistic China where procreation is limited by the communistic regime.
Excuse me but do you also stone your disobedient children to death? Because your bible also says to do that too. F u Christian fundie.

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If you don't like gay marriage or homosexuality you can move to Iran or some other Islamic shit hole that persecutes gays. Every single developed industrialized country on earth is tolerant of homosexuality. A 2012 poll showed 52% of Americans supported gay marriage. America is the land of the free not land of the authoritarian fascist theocrats.
I have a better idea...if you want to marry your gay lovah move to Europe...

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Gay marriage should be legal because where it's illegal now in most states, gay couples who truly love their same-sex partner cannot take advantage of the 1,049 benefits awarded to them when they marry that some hetersexual married couples take for granted every single day.

In the United States same-sex married couples would be awarded the assumption of spouse's pension, automatic inheritance when their same-sex partner died, an automatic housing lease transfer, burial determination, child custody (yes, gay couples have children). Gay couples would receive crime victim recovery benefits, divorce protections, domestic violence protection, exemption from property tax on their partner's death.

Same sex married couples would get receive immunity from testifying against their spouse, insurance breaks, joint adoption and foster care, joint bankruptcy, joint parenting (including insurance covering and school records). Same sex married couples would receive medical decisions on behalf of their partner, certain property rights, reduced rate memberships, sick leave or care for their partner, visitation of their partner's children.

That's just some of the reasons why same-sex couples fight for equal marriage. It's so much more than just being married, and some people fail to realize that.

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But it does matter. I have had these long discussions with my collegues and my grandson. My collegues are friends that I have had for 20 and 30 plus years.
In the matter of homosexuality, it is a genetic aborrhation that changes the model mindset in instinctual behavior.
Now, that leads to elimination from the species through natural selection as two deviant creatures cannot procreate. They are not intended you yeild offspring.
In nature, with very limited exception, deviant or homosexual creatures are shunned by the group. It is a natural selection thing.
Humans, advanced in their thinking, are better able to communicate their emotions. Emotions drive causes right or wrong.
There has been much give on the side of the straight people as we are able to even be in this place at this time to have this discussion, but there are touchstone issues that will not be overcome.
Speaking from the strictly secular perspective of an old man with a background in animal research, there are some things that simply are the way they are.
It is never in nature up to the anomalies to change the model, but for the model to eliminate the anomalies.
99.9% of all species that have ever existed on earth are dead. What does it matter if humans breed anyway? We are all just going to die one day. And after we die that's it. We cease to exist. What is the point to life? There isn't one. The only point to life is to die. So why are we even talking about homosexuality? People can love who ever they want. All of this anti-gay stuff is really disgusting. It's just as bad as racism and sexism.

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I have a better idea...if you want to marry your gay lovah move to Europe...
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Nah I can just go to New York, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont, Connecticut, Iowa, and Washington D.C. which all have gay marriage. Washington, California, Maryland, Rhode Island, and Maine are all about to legalize gay marriage as well. Face it bigot you are losing badly. The majority of Americans want marriage equality for lgbt.

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Biden proved to be the immoral idiotic Messiah of the homosexuals. More than 90% of Americans do not agree to convert America to the corrupt Sodom and Gomorrah that the Lord destroyed in the biblical stories because he was disgusted. Marriage is defined as unification of man and woman for procreation and keeping the new generation as part of a family. Homosexual relations bring to the self-destruction and to the death of the American society because no new generation is created. It is time to stop the liberal Democrats effort to destroy the American society and bring to its collapse and elimination by the immoral corrupt liberal politicians such as Biden who support the doggie homosexual style as way of life. Liberals are enemies of America because they see human beings as the enemy of the planet like in communistic China where procreation is limited by the communistic regime.
Um, Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because the people of the city of Sodom were selfish, greedy, had no compassion, didn't give any hospitality to outside strangers of their city, committed adultery. Back then when somebody was an outsider the town would punish them by gang raping them---it wasn't about carnal pleasure or lust, it was about power, dominance, showing someone who the boss was. The same thing happened in another Bible story but the victim who was gang-raped was a woman. And btw, didn't the story end with Lot's two daughters getting him drunk, having sex with him, so they would bare children because they thought they were the only three people left? You can't pick one story out of the Bible and twist it to defend your argument.

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People who oppose gay marriage only oppose it, because they dislike gay people.
Well...i oppose gay marriage and its not because i hate gay people which proves you dont know what the hell youre talkin about it.

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Well...i oppose gay marriage and its not because i hate gay people which proves you dont know what the hell youre talkin about it.
Um, then give me a reason why you're so against it if you don't dislike or hate gay people. I mean you did say earlier, "I have a better idea, if you want to marry your gay 'lovah (learn how to spell) move to Europe. Need help packing?? Nah, do it yourself." That comes off as not accepting of same-sex couples who want to marry. You explain it. Why are you so against it? Gay people aren't bothering you, you're letting gay people bother you because you are INSECURE!!!

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Nah I can just go to New York, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont, Connecticut, Iowa, and Washington D.C. which all have gay marriage.
So quit yer bitchin and move then. Just make sure you dont move to any other state as your marriage will be deemed null and void. heehee.
Washington, California, Maryland, Rhode Island, and Maine are all about to legalize gay marriage as well. Face it bigot you are losing badly. The majority of Americans want marriage equality for lgbt.
You can expect a huge battle , countless lawsuits ...you better hope these pending lawsuits in all of these states that youve mentioned dont make it to the Conservative leaning SCOTUS. Im 99.99% confident they will deem all gay marriages null and void.

btw, you can save the bigot label... Ive heard it a million times over...find a new tactic...that one is stale...

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Gay marriage should be legal because where it's illegal now in most states, gay couples who truly love their same-sex partner cannot take advantage of the 1,049 benefits awarded to them when they marry that some hetersexual married couples take for granted every single day.
In the United States same-sex married couples would be awarded the assumption of spouse's pension, automatic inheritance when their same-sex partner died, an automatic housing lease transfer, burial determination, child custody (yes, gay couples have children). Gay couples would receive crime victim recovery benefits, divorce protections, domestic violence protection, exemption from property tax on their partner's death.
Same sex married couples would get receive immunity from testifying against their spouse, insurance breaks, joint adoption and foster care, joint bankruptcy, joint parenting (including insurance covering and school records). Same sex married couples would receive medical decisions on behalf of their partner, certain property rights, reduced rate memberships, sick leave or care for their partner, visitation of their partner's children.
That's just some of the reasons why same-sex couples fight for equal marriage. It's so much more than just being married, and some people fail to realize that.
So youre marrying for purely selfish, financial reasons than...

Unlike the vast majority of couples who marry to procreate, start a family, a genealogical background, etc...

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So quit yer bitchin and move then. Just make sure you dont move to any other state as your marriage will be deemed null and void. heehee.
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You can expect a huge battle , countless lawsuits ...you better hope these pending lawsuits in all of these states that youve mentioned dont make it to the Conservative leaning SCOTUS. Im 99.99% confident they will deem all gay marriages null and void.
btw, you can save the bigot label... Ive heard it a million times over...find a new tactic...that one is stale...
WOW, great way to show how ignorant and closed minded you truly are. Why do you care so much about gay people progressing and one day be able to have equal rights as everybody else. Marriage is a civil right, a human right at that, and gay people are human beings who deserve their equal right to marry. How about you educate yourself. How about you step out of that reality you made for yourself and open yourself to all the other realities that exist and realize, "WOW, I'm wrong for telling somebody else how to live their life and how they live their life is wrong." I don't dislike you, nor hate you for that matter, because hate is such a horrible word... Why can't humans allow love to exist. We don't choose what our heart feels, we can choose to ignore it until it eats us up inside to where we do have a strong dislike for it, which in turn turns into a strong hatred.

I personally don't care what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their home, or who they love. My main focus is keeping my marriage healthy, educating my children to be open minded, compassionate and non-judgmental adults, and to teach them that love has no limits. I am bisexual, my husband knows it, my children are 11 and 9 years of age and they know the difference between same-sex couples and opposite sex couples, and that there is no difference---because love is love.

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So youre marrying for purely selfish, financial reasons than...
Unlike the vast majority of couples who marry to procreate, start a family, a genealogical background, etc...
That's a copout, and you know it. Stop with your hate!!!

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