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“What, me worry?”

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#98369
Aug 7, 2012
 
Psychology wrote:
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Is believing in ET any different?
Look at man and tell us what you see. Look at man and tell us what you would like to see.
Why would you like to see such?
What good comes from what you see, what you would like to see and most importantly, why?
What is man capable of, if done for the right reasons in the correct manner?
Perhaps I should say, what isn't possible, neh?
If spin creates gravity, does the tip of a Dremel tool increase its gravitational pull when the tool is turned on? Your hypothesis demands that the answer must be "yes." Is the answer "yes?" Please answer this question that you've managed to dodge for weeks.

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#98370
Aug 7, 2012
 
Psychology wrote:
As you say, the priests, preachers and rabbi's, brainwash their flocks, just as the gov brainwashes most all, save a tiny few that are hated, because they refuse to believe that man must be so stupid, immoral and prideful, even though we are all challenged. When one does for others, they do for themselves and their children.
Do you see one thing good in government? If so, can you defend what you claim, if you do?
If spin creates gravity, does the tip of a Dremel tool increase its gravitational pull when the tool is turned on? Your hypothesis demands that the answer must be "yes." Is the answer "yes?" Please answer this question that you've managed to dodge for weeks.
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Since the dawn of time man has believed in a higher power.

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#98372
Aug 7, 2012
 
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Here's more children! Say bye bye to Einsteins general relativity in this respect.
Although just 100 millionths of the acceleration due to the Earth’s gravitational field, the measured field is a surprising one hundred million trillion times larger than Einstein’s General Relativity predicts.
Read morons, read.
http://www.esa.int/esaMI/GSP/SEM0L6OVGJE_0.ht...
That article is five years old. If there was anything to it we would have heard by now. There have been many challenges to Einstein's relativity over the years. Many of them have been like the article you linked. Nothing has ever come of it. Usually it was a poor interpretation of data or poor data that ended up being the downfall of this various tilters at windmills.

Keep trying, maybe someday you will find a real article that refutes Einstein, though I seriously doubt it.

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#98373
Aug 7, 2012
 
Psychology wrote:
Here's more children! Say bye bye to Einsteins general relativity in this respect.
Although just 100 millionths of the acceleration due to the Earth’s gravitational field, the measured field is a surprising one hundred million trillion times larger than Einstein’s General Relativity predicts.
Read morons, read.
http://www.esa.int/esaMI/GSP/SEM0L6OVGJE_0.ht...
You seem to miss the point completely, not about this but about science in general.

If a new observation shows a conflict with Einstein, we would WELCOME it as it would be the start of an even more expanded understanding of the universe than we have now. Just as Einstein emerged to explain the errors in Newton, a new science would emerge and we would all enjoy that. At every stage, our understanding grows.

This is what science is all about!

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#98374
Aug 7, 2012
 
Psychology wrote:
Since the dawn of time man has believed in a higher power.
Says who??

“I am Sisyphus”

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#98375
Aug 8, 2012
 
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Actually was hoping to get his population growth formula out of him, but he kept stalling.
Am guessing he will have forgotten when he returns
Still be on his list though

His population growth formula and it debunking can be found on talkorigins.org

Or more specifically:

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB620.h...

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Aug 8, 2012
 
Psychology wrote:
I'm sorry children, did you say something?
A non-zero graviton mass in a superconductor leads to a gravitomagnetic London moment, which has the same form as the one required solving Tate’s Cooper-pair mass anomaly./--------
""""if Tate’s measurement is correct and quantum theory holds, the Cooper-pair mass difference in her experiment is a direct sign for a graviton mass which is 14 orders of magnitude larger than its free-space value. """"------ ----
This then explains why gravitomagnetic fields generated by rotating superconductors in fact can be much larger than the classical ones from non-coherent matter.
Although gravitomagnetic fields based on Tate’s result are still small, they should be detectable within a laboratory environment. The theoretical basis outlined in this paper shall provide a basis for further experimental and theoretical research on gravitational properties of superconductors.

Not one word of that helps you at all. Apparently you do not understand what you are reading.

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Aug 8, 2012
 
Portal wrote:
<quoted text>The human animal is a product of its environment....monkey see, monkey do. The human mind is easily molded based on nothing more than wanting to be accepted and loved. The "cult" is the norm.

That does explain why the wacko fundies are still debating the fact (and theory) of evolution.

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Aug 8, 2012
 
Psychology wrote:
Here's more children! Say bye bye to Einsteins general relativity in this respect.
Although just 100 millionths of the acceleration due to the Earth’s gravitational field, the measured field is a surprising one hundred million trillion times larger than Einstein’s General Relativity predicts.
Read morons, read.
http://www.esa.int/esaMI/GSP/SEM0L6OVGJE_0.ht...

This is really old research. What does the follow-up research show? How has this been integrated into physics today? That research was done over 6 years ago and knowledge in physics doubles every three years so only .25 of all physics knowledge we now have did we have then.

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Aug 8, 2012
 
Hey Carpet,

If spin creates gravity, does the tip of a Dremel tool increase its gravitational pull when the tool is turned on? Your hypothesis demands that the answer must be "yes." Is the answer "yes?" Please answer this question that you've managed to dodge for weeks.
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Aug 8, 2012
 
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His population growth formula and it debunking can be found on talkorigins.org
Or more specifically:
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB620.h...
Yeah, but UC refuses to look at TO as its all 'darwinist rubbish' according to him anyway.

Have been pushing him to back up his stance (as its one of his 99 reasons) but so far he has stalled, asking me to agree the data set, insisting that whether birth/mortality rates change is unimportant etc.

All he really needs to do is post his formula and some numbers - but suspect that is why he is stalling as the problems are to obvious.

The hilarious thing is HIS OWN set of data he wants to use - quotes a population of 4M in -10,000 BC !!!!!!!! And he wants to use it to justify a 6K old earth !!!!!!!

Sometimes he plunges to jimbo levels of nonsense as he tries to justify his position

But we will see, he insists he want to see the point through and miracles DO happen (whoops)
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#98381
Aug 8, 2012
 
Dogen wrote:
I hope everyone is enjoying UC's holiday.
I know I am.
And if we're lucky maybe Jimbo will take another extended leave of absence.
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Aug 8, 2012
 
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Says who??
What, Jimbo's word not enough??
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#98383
Aug 8, 2012
 
Mugwump wrote:
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Yeah, but UC refuses to look at TO as its all 'darwinist rubbish' according to him anyway.
Have been pushing him to back up his stance (as its one of his 99 reasons) but so far he has stalled, asking me to agree the data set, insisting that whether birth/mortality rates change is unimportant etc.
All he really needs to do is post his formula and some numbers - but suspect that is why he is stalling as the problems are to obvious.
The hilarious thing is HIS OWN set of data he wants to use - quotes a population of 4M in -10,000 BC !!!!!!!! And he wants to use it to justify a 6K old earth !!!!!!!
Sometimes he plunges to jimbo levels of nonsense as he tries to justify his position
But we will see, he insists he want to see the point through and miracles DO happen (whoops)
Really? I've been asking him stuff for two years solid and he's only answered three times. Of course those answers didn't actually address the questions.
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Let's see now children, what would such knowledge be used for? How about rocket propulsion, possibly cars, as a kind of shielding in many different applications and more, right??

If they were able to do one of these, which do you think the public would demand? Autos would be the first demanded by the public. How would all the oil co's feel? Do you think they would let that happen? I'm sorry, you children aren't expected to think.

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Aug 8, 2012
 
Psychology wrote:
I'm sorry children, did you say something?
A non-zero graviton mass in a superconductor leads to a gravitomagnetic London moment, which has the same form as the one required solving Tate’s Cooper-pair mass anomaly./--------
""""if Tate’s measurement is correct and quantum theory holds, the Cooper-pair mass difference in her experiment is a direct sign for a graviton mass which is 14 orders of magnitude larger than its free-space value. """"------ ----
This then explains why gravitomagnetic fields generated by rotating superconductors in fact can be much larger than the classical ones from non-coherent matter.
Although gravitomagnetic fields based on Tate’s result are still small, they should be detectable within a laboratory environment. The theoretical basis outlined in this paper shall provide a basis for further experimental and theoretical research on gravitational properties of superconductors.
It's so cute when you pretend to understand something.
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Psychology wrote:
How did man come to any god? If man did not come to god, what then?
Did cave man believe in god?
"Darwin was Wrong! Man's still an ape. His creed still a totem pole. When he first achieved the upright position he took a look at the stars... thought they were something to eat. When he couldn't reach them, he thought they were groceries belonging to a bigger creature... that's how Jehovah was born." E. K. Hornbeck (played by Gene Kelly) Inherit The Wind (1960)
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Science fiction, just like hypothesis are fun to consider, but they have no real place in science.

Yum, stars. WIDE eyed children, so cute.

Why would all men--women, since the dawn of time, seek a higher power, that is the scientific question?
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Psychology wrote:
Let's see now children, what would such knowledge be used for? How about rocket propulsion, possibly cars, as a kind of shielding in many different applications and more, right??
If they were able to do one of these, which do you think the public would demand? Autos would be the first demanded by the public. How would all the oil co's feel? Do you think they would let that happen? I'm sorry, you children aren't expected to think.
Yup.... for 80 years we've been promised flying cars. They can put a man on the moon...yadda yadda yadda

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