Should evolution be taught in high school?

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Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand." Read more
Psychology

Danielson, CT

#95695 Jul 8, 2012
If psychology is your game, then what psychology do schools employ and give examples.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#95696 Jul 8, 2012
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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Have you already checked every molecule on the Asian continent for Koala content? Really?
So, they set about eradicating every molecule but perhaps didn't fully succeed?

Tell us, for what purpose would fur traders go about doing such a thing?

Why would they put their livestock somewhere that would be prohibitively difficult, dangerous, expensive, and time-consuming to retrieve and harvest them?

How does any of that serve their fur trading business?

How does any of that mesh with the word "reasonable?"

What do you think "reasonable" means?

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#95697 Jul 8, 2012
Psychology wrote:
If psychology is your game, then what psychology do schools employ and give examples.
When you're not being retarded, what do you do?
Psychology

Danielson, CT

#95698 Jul 8, 2012
LowellGuy wrote:
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When you're not being retarded, what do you do?
I asked Dogen. Is Lowell guy another name you use when your Dogen moniker is unable to answer and vice versa? Is that your idea of psychology Dogen?
Psychology

Danielson, CT

#95699 Jul 8, 2012
Lowell guy and Dogen sittin in a tree, k I s s I n g, first comes love, then comes marriage, then comes little Dogen in a baby carriage.:)

Tell us when you're ready to prove you understand psychology.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#95700 Jul 8, 2012
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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Not always. Some are and some are not. But you people tend to argue more from theology than from science.
I lump 'you weren't there' and 'it's still a hobbit' in with the theological arguments. If you don't understand why, I will gladly explain it to you.'It's really complicated' isn't an argument at all so it doesn't even count.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#95701 Jul 8, 2012
Psychology wrote:
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I asked Dogen. Is Lowell guy another name you use when your Dogen moniker is unable to answer and vice versa? Is that your idea of psychology Dogen?
You clearly have paranoiac delusions. I'm not Dogen.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#95702 Jul 8, 2012
Psychology wrote:
Lowell guy and Dogen sittin in a tree, k I s s I n g, first comes love, then comes marriage, then comes little Dogen in a baby carriage.:)
Tell us when you're ready to prove you understand psychology.
You sure you're not an inbred hillbilly?
Psychology

Danielson, CT

#95703 Jul 8, 2012
Aww, so Dogen won't be showing us his brilliance in psychology? Imagine that. Till you run your mouth next time Dogen. ;)

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#95705 Jul 8, 2012
Psychology wrote:
Lowell guy and Dogen sittin in a tree, k I s s I n g, first comes love, then comes marriage, then comes little Dogen in a baby carriage.:)
Tell us when you're ready to prove you understand psychology.
Is there a name for the personality disorder that compels you to come out of hills making demands of people you don't even know? Probably some kind of narcissistic thing, wouldn't you say?
Mugwump

UK

#95706 Jul 9, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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Is there a name for the personality disorder that compels you to come out of hills making demands of people you don't even know? Probably some kind of narcissistic thing, wouldn't you say?
I'm guessing the name is Jim Ryan
Psychology

Danielson, CT

#95707 Jul 9, 2012
Wow Dogen, even your other moniker and those like you, know you can't argue psychology.

Maybe you should tell Urban Cowboy to pay attention again, right?

Come on Dogen or Lowell guy or however many you choose to be, just answer the simple question, how do schools use psychology and give us some examples.

Surely your M.S. in psychology is more than enough, right? Surely all that schooling is worth something, right?

Oh gosh, could you be just another childish braggart, pretending to be someone?

Since: Aug 07

United States

#95708 Jul 9, 2012
Dogen wrote:
The same thing I have had an M.S. in all along, Clinical Psychology.
Pay attention.

A fluffy degree in psychology hardly puts you in realm of real physicists. Your repeated us of "we" means you are simply delusional.

"Criticisms of psychological research often come from perceptions that it is a "soft" science. Philosopher of science Thomas Kuhn's 1962 critique[69] implied psychology overall was in a pre-paradigm state, lacking the agreement on overarching theory found in mature sciences such as chemistry and physics."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychology#Theor...

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#95709 Jul 9, 2012
Urban Cowboy wrote:
Science thinks they may have confirmed the existence of the Higgs Boson, but why are they calling it the "God Particle"? Fine with me, because this is an extreme example of intelligent design and fine tuning.
http://creation.com/higgs-boson-god-particle
It's something of a joke. Leon Lederman - who coined the name - originally wanted to call it the 'goddamn particle'. His publisher made him change it.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#95710 Jul 9, 2012
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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I don't know how they got there but I gave you several reasonable possibilities and this is not as big an issue as you seem to think.
As usual, when Urb has been shown to have proposed something that is completely ridiculous, suddenly it becomes a non-issue.

He's consistent, I'll give him that.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#95711 Jul 9, 2012
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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Have you already checked every molecule on the Asian continent for Koala content? Really?
Are you really going to defend your nonsensical koala hypothesis on a criticism of a sarcastic remark? Really?

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#95712 Jul 9, 2012
Psychology wrote:
Lowell guy and Dogen sittin in a tree, k I s s I n g, first comes love, then comes marriage, then comes little Dogen in a baby carriage.:)
Tell us when you're ready to prove you understand psychology.
What are you? 12?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#95713 Jul 9, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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It confirms the big bang and a 13.7 year old universe among other things.
Fine tuning is a delusion in the mind of the desperate.
The Higg's boson doesn't really confirm the Big Bang. It *does* confirm the standard model for particle physics, however. With that, the three non-gravitational forces are described by the same fundamental theory.

Whether there is 'fine tuning' or not depends on whether the Standard model is final or whether supersymmetry is confirmed. In the latter case (which is where many of the bets are), dark matter is easily described (least massive supersymmetric particle) and fine tuning aspects go away.

This is one of the typical problems with fine tuning arguments: what appears to be fine tuning in one theory is a prediction of other theories. Especially at the edge of knowledge, the fine tuning argument is risky: it is too easy for a minor change in our understanding to make the whole issue go away.

This is one thing (of the many) that Creationists tend not to understand about science.

Since: Aug 07

United States

#95714 Jul 9, 2012
MikeF wrote:
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As usual, when Urb has been shown to have proposed something that is completely ridiculous, suddenly it becomes a non-issue.
He's consistent, I'll give him that.
That was just one of several possibilities. So tell me, is the notion of rabbits being introduced by ship to Australia also completely ridiculous?
Mugwump

UK

#95715 Jul 9, 2012
MikeF wrote:
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What are you? 12?
Am guessing jimbo - so 12 is about right for the mental age.

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