Intelligent Design: Coming To A State Legislature Near You

LWsciencejunkie wrote:

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You don't realllly want me to go into the subjects of religious wars, tyranny, slavery, witch-hunts, inquisitions and conquests etc. etc. etc?
Religion, science, big muscles, a weapon, a talent with language, charisma, information withheld, warped or disseminated are powerful things that can be used, have been used and will be used for great good and great evil. That being said, and science being relatively new to humanity, do you honestly think science has done more in the material world for humanity or religion?
There is nothing on this planet more monstrously terrifying than people caught up in the hysteria and madness of religious passion, believing that their ONE TRUE faith demands or permits the exploitation or elimination of other human beings.

LWsciencejunkie wrote:

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You don't realllly want me to go into the subjects of religious wars, tyranny, slavery, witch-hunts, inquisitions and conquests etc. etc. etc?
Religion, science, big muscles, a weapon, a talent with language, charisma, information withheld, warped or disseminated are powerful things that can be used, have been used and will be used for great good and great evil. That being said, and science being relatively new to humanity, do you honestly think science has done more in the material world for humanity or religion?
There is nothing on this planet more monstrously terrifying than people caught up in the hysteria and madness of religious passion, believing that their ONE TRUE faith demands or permits the exploitation or elimination of other human beings.

Easter Bunny wrote:

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I can HEAR you.

ProfitGanda wrote:

ID and Evolution are two completely different things. One deals with the creation of life while the other deals with the changes / mutations of of life. It is like comparing apples to chain saws - they're not even close.
Niether Darwin or the Theory of Evolution ever denied the exitance of God. In fact, Charles Darwin was a God fearing man. He viewed evolution as a wonderment of God's work - not as a replacement of God. He felt honored that God had given him the opportunity to witness God's own work.
If anyone wants to see evolution in action all they have to do is look at the virus, the bacteria, and the cockroach and see how quickly they biologically adapt to their environments and exposure to chemicals - that's evolution at its finest.
I can hardly wait to the reaction of the ID freaks when evidence of life is discovered on Mars. How do you explain God's little side projects?

Done That wrote:

<quoted text>LOL With those big ears I am not surprised. Have you seen the Vicar of Dibley where the old lady on her death bed tells her closest friend she is the Easter Bunny that has been seen by the village children and asked her friend to carry on after her death. Easter morning 10 people show up dressed as the Easter Bunny

EADGBE wrote:

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Steve wrote:

<quoted text>I'm all for that. I'd like to see the evidence that scientifially supports the so-called inteelligent design.

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ProfitGanda wrote:

ID and Evolution are two completely different things. One deals with the creation of life while the other deals with the changes / mutations of of life. It is like comparing apples to chain saws - they're not even close.

If anyone wants to see evolution in action all they have to do is look at the virus, the bacteria, and the cockroach and see how quickly they biologically adapt to their environments and exposure to chemicals - that's evolution at its finest.
I can hardly wait to the reaction of the ID freaks when evidence of life is discovered on Mars. How do you explain God's little side projects?

CR8VDO wrote:

“A closed mind is like a closed book; just a block of wood”
Chinese Proverb

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SciTeach7 wrote:

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The buzz word concept is "Irreducible Complexity" like the 7 molecule rotor that allows the flagella of microoganisms (like sperm) to move and actually go somewhere. Without all 7 protein molecules together, in the correct positions, the flagella will not work and that cell or microorganism isn't going to go anywhere.
The big question for Evolutionists is, "How did all 7 proteins get formed correctly and assembled just so by 'accident'"? ID theorists just say that some intelligence from somewhere else in our universe has something to do with it.
Just because creationists have co-opted the ID theory doesn't mean all ID theorists are creationists.
And would someone PLEASE show me some actual EMPIRICAL evidence for "evolving" completely new genetic information? Evolutionists claim it occurs, but STILL CANNOT show how or why this may occur. They have lots of stories, but NO REAL EVIDENCE ... and they call Creationists dreamers! That shoe fits Evolutionists, too.

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SciTeach7 wrote:

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The buzz word concept is "Irreducible Complexity" like the 7 molecule rotor that allows the flagella of microoganisms (like sperm) to move and actually go somewhere. Without all 7 protein molecules together, in the correct positions, the flagella will not work and that cell or microorganism isn't going to go anywhere.
The big question for Evolutionists is, "How did all 7 proteins get formed correctly and assembled just so by 'accident'"? ID theorists just say that some intelligence from somewhere else in our universe has something to do with it.
Just because creationists have co-opted the ID theory doesn't mean all ID theorists are creationists.
And would someone PLEASE show me some actual EMPIRICAL evidence for "evolving" completely new genetic information? Evolutionists claim it occurs, but STILL CANNOT show how or why this may occur. They have lots of stories, but NO REAL EVIDENCE ... and they call Creationists dreamers! That shoe fits Evolutionists, too.

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Katydid wrote:

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No matter what your religious beliefs, you and all other Creationists/ID’ers need to understand that if you employ the benefits of evolutionary biology while pursuing the best course of cancer treatment for you or a loved one, you have increased your chances of surviving. IF and only if you make sure that your cell culture assays are done to allow
for the identification of the gene expression patterns that correlate with drug resistance in your particular type of cancer.
EVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGY WILL SAVE YOUR LIFE IF YOU LET IT.
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

Primewonk wrote:

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http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB200_1...

SciTeach7 wrote:

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The buzz word concept is "Irreducible Complexity" like the 7 molecule rotor that allows the flagella of microoganisms (like sperm) to move and actually go somewhere. Without all 7 protein molecules together, in the correct positions, the flagella will not work and that cell or microorganism isn't going to go anywhere.
The big question for Evolutionists is, "How did all 7 proteins get formed correctly and assembled just so by 'accident'"? ID theorists just say that some intelligence from somewhere else in our universe has something to do with it.
Just because creationists have co-opted the ID theory doesn't mean all ID theorists are creationists.
And would someone PLEASE show me some actual EMPIRICAL evidence for "evolving" completely new genetic information? Evolutionists claim it occurs, but STILL CANNOT show how or why this may occur. They have lots of stories, but NO REAL EVIDENCE ... and they call Creationists dreamers! That shoe fits Evolutionists, too.

Infinite Force wrote:

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Intelligent design refers to a scientific research program as well as a community of scientists, philosophers and other scholars who seek evidence of design in nature....