As border fence rises, so does ire in southern New Mexico

I love this, "Commissioner Dolores Saldaña-Caviness, whose district encompasses Sunland Park and Santa Teresa, said the border fence isn't the right solution to immigration problems. She said she's not certain what the solution should be, but said it rests in the hands of federal officials." Thats right, up to federal officals and the fence is what they decided on. How hard is that?

Indyeast wrote:

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We in the USA say American.
Do you have a comment on the subject or are you here to give english lessons?.

Yes, I have comments - I made a few.

Let's read again the post made by the lady complaining about immigrant children holding back her children's classes at school because they don't speak fluent English:

You go! Anything at this point, it has gotten ridiculous. No more FREE welfare system in this country. NO to OBAMA and his more free everything! These illegals thrive on our free welfare system. In my kids school, there is a handful on non english speakers,(5), the school has had to accomidate them with their own classroom and teacher, making it more costly for the school and taking funds away from those of us and our kids who pay taxes. We need change!, the wall will not work, they will only buid a 21 foor latter to get over.

Who is it that doesn't want the fence going up? What "American" doesn't want the fence going up. It couldn't be anyone that goes by the name American--unless their traitors.

And for the argument about the Berlin Wall and what a negative impact it imposed.

Correct. Except for that Germany was one country, made into two countries, divided by one fence.

Mexico is a different country, and the fence will help them do things they are going to be expected to be when they are legal in the US anyway.

Not, legal,.........stay the hell out.
Get legal.......welcome to my world,....
I have to be legal to live in my country I was born in. Or I have to get legal. Seems like a lot of trouble, doesn't it?

But that's the way it is.

wobble wrote:

LOL! Keep it up guys, this "border wall" is nothing more than further proof that the anti-immigrant, pro-police state "conservatives" in this country are irrational and reckless.
It's fun watching you guys dig your own graves.

Well, we are not like liberals like that want to get rid of the country and not protect America! You are for a police state in the other direction. You pound it out of other Americans by your incessant haranguing with the press! Unfortunately for you, many Americans love their country!

Talking Tina wrote:

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I am Latina and I hate illegal aliens entering this country.
Illegal aliens are a bunch of whiny baby making
rabbits that hate Americans. Especially Hispanic Americans.
They come here to take over as if their culture
is so great.
Look at L.A. SICKENING!
Keep the fence going and electro fit it.
Super high voltage!

Tina, we need more Latinos like you to stand up for America and not let these Mecha reconquistas dominate your side of the debate.

wobble wrote:

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And "conservatives" are not just "anti-illegal", they are anti-immigrant.
Tell me, whats this wall gonna do besides make America look stupid?
Can't comment on Taco Trucks, but I assume you would prefer that they were burgerkings, and mcdonalds right?

Wrong again, I am married to a legal resident alien! We are against people who break the law unlike you who hates America, OK?

Bobby wrote:

Who is it that doesn't want the fence going up? What "American" doesn't want the fence going up. It couldn't be anyone that goes by the name American--unless their traitors.

<--- Raises hand

Born and raised.

wobble wrote:

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I bet your parents are a couple of tough cookies.
If things are going to get bad I hope it happens now instead of later.
I have a sinking feeling that these "bailouts" will only postpone the inevitable and our children or grandchildren will be the ones to pay.

Agreed, this bailout will only postpone not avert.Im not sure if its even going to postpone.All i know for sure is come November, i have my list on how all my reps voted and will be voting against everyone of them that voted in favor of the bailout.

plopsdad wrote:

<quoted text>Agreed, this bailout will only postpone not avert.Im not sure if its even going to postpone.All i know for sure is come November, i have my list on how all my reps voted and will be voting against everyone of them that voted in favor of the bailout.

We now know why the pro-bailout politicians tried to shove this thing through in less than a week...the damn thing is full of pork.
Then again, what do we expect from politicians in the first place?
That said, are you gonna vote McCain?

wobble wrote:

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I can dig that. But remember, the whole of the american public does not support heavy handed actions by ICE, the separation of families, or the "crackdown" on otherwise law abiding people.
In fact it's about 50/50, with one half demanding we "go get em", and the other half reasoning that "illegals" are "just here to work".

Sweetie pie, the children can go with their parents to their native country! But as always the illegal aliens are so greedy that they still have to live off of America's generosity for their own selfish needs. Remember Saul, he is doing fine in Mexico!!

Keep in mind when papa deals drugs in the USA and the heat is about to be pinched, he and the family up and boogies back to Mexico, no problem. He isn't "seperated" from his family. They just "migrate" back.

Seperating families.... bunch of hogwash.

Make it an electric fence. Those Mexicans will pee on anything.

The real problem about putting a wall in this border is that Texas needs the Rio Grande for some of the agriculture that is in the area. Fast and cheap way that the wall is going up doesn't allow for a proper way of redirecting some of this water, and their is wild life that also depend on an open border. They don't deserve to suffer because we want to cage ourselves from our neighbors!!!

Brittanicus wrote:

One issue why neither new president is talking?
What pariah employers of illegal alien hires don't pay for and you taxpayers do.
Why do illegal aliens get free health care, when according to a (AARP) American Association of Retired people report. A legal citizen in Seattle is struggling to pay $10,000 worth of medicine to stay alive. My son who has Autism takes a drug that cost $950.00 a month. A lady I know has bi-polar and other health issues and drugs that costs $6000.00 a limited medical insurance.Yet illegal aliens can walk into any emergency room and receive free hospital care, prescription drugs, hospitalization and be completely free of any medical bills. American on the other hand are hassled by debt collectors, garnishment of wages and court appearances, because they have a social security number.
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Got to keep up the good work for America!

Exactly raise the height another 3-4 feet - if they
want to come across then use the legal crossing
points. It is totally disgusting that some of our
polliticians should be more concerned about the
general population and citizenry rights to be secure
in their homes rather than the rights of a bunch
of illegals that have broken the law to enter
into our country.

Shame on those that would hinder these efforts - your actions are despicable.

The number one role of government is to secure a nations borders and provide for national security.

Shameful wall wrote:

The wall is the best demonstration of three things: 1. That we live in a fascist police state; 2. Conservative racists ability to exert their doctorine of hatred over fellow Americans; 3. The cost of neoliberal/free trade economics - defense contractors, oil barrons, and border wall developers make unfathomable profits while the middle- and lower-classes around the world are squeezed (i.e. the increasing flow of "economic refugees" from Mexico as a direct result of the consequences of NAFTA in Mexico).

Here's your solution -- go back to Mexico. Fix up your own country, make it to your liking but the gravy train is coming to an end.

Build the fence and they will still come!

Shameful wall wrote:

The wall is the best demonstration of three things: 1. That we live in a fascist police state; 2. Conservative racists ability to exert their doctorine of hatred over fellow Americans; 3. The cost of neoliberal/free trade economics - defense contractors, oil barrons, and border wall developers make unfathomable profits while the middle- and lower-classes around the world are squeezed (i.e. the increasing flow of "economic refugees" from Mexico as a direct result of the consequences of NAFTA in Mexico).

There is no shame in the wall. The wall is a rational attempt by one nations responsible citizens to protect themselves from the criminal elites of another nation--Mexico. Those wine, women and song politicians in Mexico City, despite having a nation rich in minerals, fishing, tourism, oil,etc. will not lift one lazy finger for their citizens. So they bit-h and complain against a nation next to them that is more responsible and they want U.S. citizens to be sacrificed for their Mexican nationals, that they have abandoned. THAT IS WHY A WALL IS HUMANE, HUMANE TOWARDS AMERICANS. 2)Liberals are the biggest racists there are. They force people into conforming to a "program", a liberal agenda, and everyone who doesn't is attacked with charges of "racism" and other meaningless terms. 3) the flow of border criminals into the U.S. is not a result of NAFTA, but as I have said, is a result of a criminal government in Mexico City. Criminals that have a long history of criminality. If Switzerland was next to the U.S., no Swiss would be coming here. Your reasoning completely leaves out the role a people play in their government. The biggest patriiots Americans have for example, are the Minutemen and women, and others who see what the massive invasion of a foreign culture is doing to this culture.

Electrify the top and put a 10 yard minefield on the US side. Anyone living on the border is free to move elsewhere if they don't like it.