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Lawmaker's anti-gay comments attract attention

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May 8, 2008
 
Common sense wrote:
Good for you Sally Kern. Don't know much about your politics, but you got this one right!
You have every right to speak your beliefs.
most of us agree with you on this one...
Wrong- she speaks for herself and her cult- ya know the "hands up ministry" that moves pedophiles into places they weren't allowed. She and her husband and some others came form that cult in Arkansas to spread more evil and scam more money.
She will not keep her job- she has embarrased Oklahoma, and her fellow legislators are also embarrased- they have distanced themselves far away from her. Believe me, I and many, many others have written letters to every person in Ok government from the governor down to the travel commission- let me tell you, at least 90% have answered, and this is what I have heard.
She still needs to apologize and go away.

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May 8, 2008
 

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Good for you Sally Kern. Don't know much about your politics, but you got this one right!
You have every right to speak your beliefs.
most of us agree with you on this one...

You must have a whole bunch of mice in your pockets.
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This is a great read...this is what Ms. Kern is promoting, whether she realizes it or not, and it beautifully addresses "the majority argument."

Posted: Thursday, 01 May 2008 11:14AM

Oppression Lives In The Land Of The Free

Steve Corbett Reporting
corbett@wilknewsradio.com


Thursday, May 01, 2008

Anti-gay sentiment remains America’s last bastion of acceptable prejudice.

Many otherwise good citizens are proud to attack the multi-colored flag of gay liberation.

Left to their own devices, some of them would outlaw any sexual identity other than good, old-fashioned heterosexuality.

Some might agree to burn gay people at the stake.


I’m not kidding.

A 15-year-old girl called “Corbett” yesterday to voice her opposition to gay marriage and gay people. She said that homosexuality should be outlawed. She said gay people should be imprisoned.

Then she went over the top.

“They should be killed,” she said.

I tried as best as I could to steer the conversation away from a 21st Century final solution.

But I still ponder her words.

Later in the show, her 11-year-old brother called to offer his sentiments about the matter. He and I have talked before. The child describes himself as home-schooled, African-American and Muslim.

Suddenly I faced a dilemma.

Other callers, all adults, had piled on the anti-gay debate.

And I felt uncomfortable addressing sexuality with an 11-year-old on live news talk radio.

Not sure what to do, I let him hang on as I worked my way through caller after caller, a minority of whom defended the civil and human rights of gays and lesbians in our community.


By the time I had decided that I would not put this child on the air – maybe for his own good - he was gone.

I imagined him and his sister talking into the night about people who lack civil rights in a society that historically had gone out of its way to deprive others of theirs - including women and blacks.

Oppression lives.

And the threat of violence against gays is born out on our streets in our towns and cities throughout the nation.

I’ll ponder the words of this young brother and sister from our community for a long time to come.

And I hope that one day they find caring guides among us who talk them off the edge of potential violence toward good, caring people who commit no crime, yet face potential death sentences from strangers who harbor grudges against them simply because of their sexual identity.

But the odds of that happening are slim.

Yesterday’s topic started because state officials are deciding whether to endorse a constitutional amendment that would further strengthen the state’s ban against same-sex marriage.

During an Appropriations Committee hearing to discuss the proposed amendment, Sen. Vince Fumo shocked some observers when he said that some of his colleagues would bring back slavery if they could, particularly if they voted in secret.


I know what he means.


The longtime Senate leader, who is retiring in the fall to face trial on criminal corruption charges, said that no one is safe if we allow the “tyranny of the majority to prevail.”

I’ve said that for years.

I’ve also said that if given the chance, the American people might bring back slavery and take away a woman’s right to vote – once public policy in the land of the free.

Whatever he meant, Fumo is on his way out.

But I know a young brother and sister who are growing up and on their way into roles as citizens of this great society that holds so much promise.

We must guarantee that the promise of equality exists for us all. Unless we safeguard liberty and justice for all, none of us is truly free. As long as that’s the norm, we have killed something sacred.

“Hate thy neighbor” doesn’t even sound right.

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May 9, 2008
 
Sadly, few will get the literary allusion; in fact, I'll wager none of the homophobes will.
Kevin from Del City wrote:
Common sense wrote:
Good for you Sally Kern. Don't know much about your politics, but you got this one right!
You have every right to speak your beliefs.
most of us agree with you on this one...
You must have a whole bunch of mice in your pockets.

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May 9, 2008
 
I kind if figured they wouldn't.
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#736
May 9, 2008
 
Well, both of your watercans sing in the shower.

(read: what the HECK does the mice thing mean?...I'm either embarrassed or glad I don't know...I just don't know which)

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#737
May 9, 2008
 
It's a reference to Steinbeck's Of Mice and Men....I'm assuming.(And it's nothing kinky!)
Lula wrote:
Well, both of your watercans sing in the shower.
(read: what the HECK does the mice thing mean?...I'm either embarrassed or glad I don't know...I just don't know which)
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May 9, 2008
 
I was wondering if it meant that Puritans are always pointing at others the finger of sexual judgment but carrying in their pants pockets a bunch of mice to secretly give them their jollies.

I really had no idea.
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Lovin every minute of it wrote:
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Wrong- she speaks for herself and her cult- ya know the "hands up ministry" that moves pedophiles into places they weren't allowed. She and her husband and some others came form that cult in Arkansas to spread more evil and scam more money.
She will not keep her job- she has embarrased Oklahoma, and her fellow legislators are also embarrased- they have distanced themselves far away from her. Believe me, I and many, many others have written letters to every person in Ok government from the governor down to the travel commission- let me tell you, at least 90% have answered, and this is what I have heard.
She still needs to apologize and go away.
She will keep her job because no one cares about what she said!! Only a handfull of people are complaining and the media acts like you are the majority!!!! Far from it!! People realy, and I mean really dont care about this crap!!! I am more concerned about gas prices, keeping food on the table!!! Ya know real life!!!
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"Gas," if you've ever had a loved one brutally attacked because of homophobia, it IS real life. And THAT is what Ms. Kern's comments, "this crap," indirectly promote.

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May 13, 2008
 
Will Work 4 Gas wrote:
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She will keep her job because no one cares about what she said!! Only a handfull of people are complaining and the media acts like you are the majority!!!! Far from it!! People realy, and I mean really dont care about this crap!!! I am more concerned about gas prices, keeping food on the table!!! Ya know real life!!!
-I'll donate some gas to you -- I always have gas.
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Isn't it amusing how gays and lesbians whine constantly about "homophobic attacks", but can't seem to stop themselves from spreading lethal diseases to each other, especially to young teenagers?
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Isn't it amusing how gays and lesbians whine constantly about "homophobic attacks", but can't seem to stop themselves from spreading lethal diseases to each other, especially to young teenagers?
Same old blah blah blah just different day blah blah blah.
Whatever-
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"Isn't it amusing how gays and lesbians whine constantly about "homophobic attacks", but can't seem to stop themselves from spreading lethal diseases to each other, especially to young teenagers?"

OK, here's what I'm talking about.

You're clearly referring to very specific people on this board, using a gross generalization, which, in and of itself, implies that you mean exactly what you say: ALL of us are lethal disease carriers.

I've already pointed cited where your posts have been omitted...the posts where you flat out referred to me as being a lethal disease carrier (read: HIV)...

Your quote above, however, also says it all.

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#745
May 15, 2008
 
You expect his behavior to improve when proven wrong Lula? Surely you know by now this will never be the case.
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"You're clearly referring to very specific people on this board, using a gross generalization, which, in and of itself, implies that you mean exactly what you say: ALL of us are lethal disease carriers."

Three problems with that analysis.

One, the word "implies".

Two, to which "very specific" people can one refer with what you call a "gross analysis"?

Three, HIV is not the only lethal disease that gays and lesbians carry. Syphilis, for instance, is lethal, and is skyrocketing in the gay and lesbian population -- again, because promiscuous gays and lesbians cannot stop themselves from having sex and spreading disease, even when they know they are infected.

http://www.365gay.com/Newscon07/12/122007syph...
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You're so full of s_h_i_t, it's really beyond comprehension that you actual believe your own pathetic drivel.

You know very well you were lumping us all in the same category.

"Two, to which "very specific" people can one refer with what you call a "gross analysis"?"

Trying real hard to sound like an intellectual, aren't we? Good luck with that one, cuz you're beyond hope.

Congrats on California, everyone!!! A great day for America!!!
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Hey truth teller!!! Bet you are so exited- are those tears of joy running down your face!!!
Guess your lawsuit againest the city Of San Fran will be on hold-I am gussing the court house wil be kind of busy, but you can get in line behind the estatic couples getting their marriage licenses!!
Gosh, you could maybe fulfill that lifelong dream of becoming a wedding planner!!!
Guess that's why you haven't made an apperance on here- out celebrating I suppose- maybe you are making your own wedding plans!!
Congrats Buddy!!
Now if the other states can get a clue!!!
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