Oklahoma Superdelegate Endorses Obama

JC in Tulsa wrote:

Secondaly, for those who are upset with how the superdelagates are voting, stop your b*******. You are the ones who voted them into office, you are the ones who joined the party that uses superdelagates. Once again, don't gripe about the rules you knew in advance and decide to join anyways. And if you use the excuse, I didn't know how it work, seriously we need you to please not vote ever again.

Well said.

JC in Tulsa wrote:

In conclusion, the voters in MI and FL got exactly what they deserved, follow the rules or vote for those in your state who will follow them. The people who are upset because the super's are voting the way they want, keep it to yourself, you not only voted for them, you decided to join the party that uses such a system. And to those who pled ignorance about the process, seriously, leave the political process so that those of us who take it seriously and invest time to research issues, educate ourselves about the process, can have our informed decision make a difference.

The primary dates in both Michigan and Florida were moved up by both state legislatures and signed into law by their respective governors. I doubt if even you with your Nancy Drewian powers could have detected these character defects when these legislators and governors we campaigning for their respective offices. The candidates pledged not to campaign in these two states and Obama TV ads ran in Florida. Obama took his name off the Michigan ballot prior to the New Hampshire primary hoping for political gains with those voters. Then his staff urged voters in Michigan to vote undeclared to try to prevent a Clinton victory. This is America and you can vote for your researched candidates but others can vote the way they want.

Reasonable Legal Mind wrote:

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Amen.
But the won't listen; because to "them" it IS about the color of his skin; the soooo want to be able to say that they were soooo much better than previous generations because they voted for a "black man".
No matter what skills he does/does not posess.
He is a demagauge.
He reminds me of a man named Chamberlin (former British PM in 1938); suck-up to the nazis/terrorists.
Give them a "voice" he said, hear there side he said - thats all they want; then they'll go away & leave us in peace.
Right.
NOT!

"Let Them Eat Cake"

Oh shut up about the racist crap! "POINT IS", they are "NOT" backing the people on who they chose, "PERIOD"!

racist,racist,racist,racist,ra cist,racist,racist,
racist,racist,racist,racist,ra cist,racist,racist,
racist,racist,racist,racist,ra cist,racist,racist,
racist,racist,racist,racist,ra cist,racist,racist,

THERE, DID I SAY IT ENOUGH FOR YOU TO LAST YOU A WHILE. DID YOU TO GET YOUR LITTLE FIX. NOW GET OVER IT.*"THEY" DID NOT BACK "THE PEOPLE"!!!*

Grampy, and why do you think they really wanted to move up their date. So that two large states would give two large victories to HRC to begin with, basically to scare the other canidates into dropping out early. Looks like the plan backfired. And I am aware this is America and you can vote for whomever you like, but if you think someone making an uninformed choice does not cause problem for everyone, well, I think we know which group you are in.

BTW it doesn't take any "powers" to research someones voting record, debate transcripts, and the like, then analyse them and make an informed decision. Also the super's have been around shorty after Carter was elected (actually becasue Carter got elected, the DNC didn't like him back then), so no excuse to not know how your parties system works, or did you just check democract because you liked a canidate and assumed the party as a whole agreed with them?

OK Mikey, Payne county voted 50% for Clinton, Stillwater is 80% white, what gives.

Muskogee Reader, just a lessons in the reason for the supers. They are not there to vote the voice of the people, but the voice of the DNC. The concept and implimentation of the supers happen shorty after Carter was elected. At the time Carter was an outsider of the DNC, and the DNC did not want him as thier canidate, but had no choice. So they created the super's, a select group of delagates who voted the way they believed (not the way the people voted necessarily). By doing this, it gave the DNC a way to override close primaries to allow the canidate they wanted in to get in, and keep any party "outsiders" out.

What does his beliefs have to do with who he voted for, why are you bringing the bible into it, Oklahoma rides the "White Horse" of Bible Belt when it wants to get a point across! I get tired of hearing it, you are from a Country town you need to never leave, you could not give me a glass of water at your Church! Oklahoma is the Most Prejudice state and is known for it's hatred of Black people whether they are from another state or not,anyone with intelligence you still crucify shall we bring Jesus into the picture? Instead of naming Oklahoma the name it has it should be KKK, home of the White people.. Go job Brad Henry and anyone else who has the balls to vote for who they choose.. We have suffered under White Presidents for decades and you are getting upset about one little Black man who has made a difference!! come on You had Bush, who has made disater of everything and Clinton's Bill who loved sex, but that's ok "The Bible principle you stand on is Alright Hypocrite, Hypocrite.. go back to ****
I don't care what color the leader is, I just want to hear a viable plan that will help the entire country, not just the politicians! I just am not satisfied with any of the answers I'm hearing. And by the way, you would be welcome in my church, even if you hate me for being born white. And I would not call you hypocrite or racist just cause we dissagree on some things.

Muskogee Reader wrote:

Oh shut up about the racist crap! "POINT IS", they are "NOT" backing the people on who they chose, "PERIOD"!
racist,racist,racist,racist,ra cist,racist,racist,
racist,racist,racist,racist,ra cist,racist,racist,
racist,racist,racist,racist,ra cist,racist,racist,
racist,racist,racist,racist,ra cist,racist,racist,
THERE, DID I SAY IT ENOUGH FOR YOU TO LAST YOU A WHILE. DID YOU TO GET YOUR LITTLE FIX. NOW GET OVER IT.*"THEY" DID NOT BACK "THE PEOPLE"!!!*

calm down. your blood pressure is proably through the roof!

Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>"Let Them Eat Cake"

Stale cake.

Great news, now we can get on to the business of defeating McCain. Oklahoma can vote for a democrat. It has always depended on who was running.And this a new day.

Robert wrote:

<quoted text> And it was one hell of an attack!My point is that intelligence, cunning and experience does not mean that one cannot also be self serving, arrogant and out right evil.

HUH, guess what the ONE attack under Cheney was PLANNED under Clinton's weak administration. Terrorist for years have said they like a weak liberal in office because they can do more to harm us.
I'd vote for Rice anyday, do color is not an issue for me but Obama is scary. He never tells you what his "changes" are, he keeps back peddling everytime he gets caught in a lie or something that might hurt his campaign. He has the MOST liberal record in Congress. That's enough for me to be against him. His form of socialist change will hurt America. The man has an agenda that I think we need to take a deeper look at. I'm like some, I'd rather have Hillary and as a former Arkansas resident I have never been a fan. But she's definitely the lesser of the evils. As for Rice, at least she can claim world-wide respect. She's a two-fer, woman and black, the liberals would hate that. They keep forgetting Bush has a very good record for promoting women and minorities in his administration, not just white males. Wonder why our liberal media choses to ignore that.

Sounds good to me. They're all 3 politicians (McCain, Clinton, Obama). They'll all lie, cheat, steal, etc for power - that's what politicians do. The Clintons just took it a step farther...quite a body count ala Vince Foster they racked up the first time around in white house. She's just a different breed of cold, evil altogether.

Louis Gray wrote:

Great news, now we can get on to the business of defeating McCain. Oklahoma can vote for a democrat. It has always depended on who was running.And this a new day.

You have entered the spirit world.

Eric wrote:

Sounds good to me. They're all 3 politicians (McCain, Clinton, Obama). They'll all lie, cheat, steal, etc for power - that's what politicians do. The Clintons just took it a step farther...quite a body count ala Vince Foster they racked up the first time around in white house. She's just a different breed of cold, evil altogether.

Twenty six people associated with them have died in plane crashes or commited suicide from Arkansas to DC. Try finding the Clinton Cronicals on CD. Burrrrrrrrrr.

i am53 years old and have been a democratic all my life but i am changing to a republican after the superdelegates of okla go againts the vote of the people ofokla and back obama

I think some of your are confusing superdelegates with the electoral college.......

This is a PRIMARY race. Superdelegates have no obligation to vote for any candidate - what they do is disassociated with the election results.

In the general election this fall you'll have Electors in the Electoral College sho vote based on the popular vote in the state they represent. Nobody's "going against" the people of Oklahoma here.

JC in Tulsa wrote:

Grampy, and why do you think they really wanted to move up their date. So that two large states would give two large victories to HRC to begin with, basically to scare the other canidates into dropping out early. Looks like the plan backfired. And I am aware this is America and you can vote for whomever you like, but if you think someone making an uninformed choice does not cause problem for everyone, well, I think we know which group you are in.
BTW it doesn't take any "powers" to research someones voting record, debate transcripts, and the like, then analyse them and make an informed decision. Also the super's have been around shorty after Carter was elected (actually becasue Carter got elected, the DNC didn't like him back then), so no excuse to not know how your parties system works, or did you just check democract because you liked a canidate and assumed the party as a whole agreed with them?

I've been a registered Independent for 40+ years. However, you would think the losers of 7 of the last 10 presidential elections might have looked at their nominating process rather than stick with a system loser George McGovern thought up. Look at the amount of money spent and then only to end up with their party split nearly in half.
Please explain to me how in Florida the Clintons got the Republican dominated legislature and Republican Governor to move up their primary so she could get an early victory? Do your research, Senate: R 26 to D 14, House: R 77 to D 43. And Michigan also has a Republican majority in their Senate. So this shoots down your early two big HRC victories theory. Where do you get your info watching the Obama's shills on CNN and MSNBC?

Eric wrote:

I think some of your are confusing superdelegates with the electoral college.......
This is a PRIMARY race. Superdelegates have no obligation to vote for any candidate - what they do is disassociated with the election results.
In the general election this fall you'll have Electors in the Electoral College sho vote based on the popular vote in the state they represent. Nobody's "going against" the people of Oklahoma here.

No the super delagates were pleged and the democratics have been say on both sides that they are to vote as pleged until recently and the ballgame changed. The electoral collage can vote for who they want, it is traditional to vote along the vote of the people. They have gone against the vote a few times in history.

Clutch wrote:

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Amen. But would she accept the offer?

looks like a good ticket to me, atleast these two have some experience , unlike Osama who's just a puppet for big business