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Robert

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Aug 21, 2012
 
Mr_Bill wrote:
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It took quite a while for that "clinton Boom" to take effect.
And it wa not the practice, or caused by truickle down.
The primary cause was the return to stability of the bond markets, and President Clinton's steady communication with the American public.
In fact, things were so bas after Reagan/ BushI that Cinton had to forgo his promised tax cut for the middle class (just as BushI has to go against his "read my lips" NO NEW TAXES promise.)
The real reason for Clinton's economic success was his top-shelf team, meeting every chalange with a pragmatic solution (not idiology) and direct communication with the American people.
Trickle down uses 'borrow and spend' to pay for government until the result of the trickle down rolls in. Unfortunately, it never does 'roll in' so we are left with huge national debts.
sometimes i wonder if you read at all, there was a tech boom when Clinton was in office and the hero of the budget surplus story was the stock bubble, not President Clinton's tax or budget policies. The point of bringing it up is that economic growth is dependent on what the rich people are doing with their money. clinton raised taxes in a time of plenty don't expect Obama to get the same results.
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UdintBuildThat wrote:
Obama isnt picking a fight with the rich, he's only using the moocher class like Stalin preached, to divide and conquer.
They (moochers) are epsilons prolls and useful idiots, of course.
1% pays 34% of taxes.
10% pays 50% of taxes
15% pays 74% of taxes.
47% pays 100% of taxes.

53% do not pay taxes and that's how Obama won the ticket in 2008. He's the leader of the moochers. His wife mooches. He mooches. His cronies mooches. They are drying up the well and racking up a deficit while doing nothing but hate on the hard workers and innovators of America.

The wells will run dry. The union offices will be ghost towns. They will turn and kill each other next for scarce food. Thanks to Obama and his mooching ways.
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#23
Aug 21, 2012
 
Wonderfull ...get a great education and then you cannot find a job....but wait.

Obama extended CHIPS to cover your azz while you sleep on mom n' dads couch in the basement....thank you Mr. POTUS.
Robert

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Aug 21, 2012
 
Triad wrote:
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1% pays 34% of taxes.
10% pays 50% of taxes
15% pays 74% of taxes.
47% pays 100% of taxes.
53% do not pay taxes and that's how Obama won the ticket in 2008. He's the leader of the moochers. His wife mooches. He mooches. His cronies mooches. They are drying up the well and racking up a deficit while doing nothing but hate on the hard workers and innovators of America.
The wells will run dry. The union offices will be ghost towns. They will turn and kill each other next for scarce food. Thanks to Obama and his mooching ways.
You left out some important stats

Approximately 125 million people in the united states receive a government check.

Many have one way or another earned it, 2.8 million are military and dependents, 54 million are social security recipients, 11 million are federal employees, that leaves 57 million receiving a check as a gift. Nearly half the nation lives in a household where someone in the household receives a government check.
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#25
Aug 21, 2012
 
As Mitt points out he will make policy, not Ryan! Democrats, do you have any comments on Mitt's education proposals? If any of you care about policy look at his ideas at:

http://www.mittromney.com/blogs/mitts-view/20...
xxxrayted

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Aug 21, 2012
 
Robert wrote:
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sometimes i wonder if you read at all, there was a tech boom when Clinton was in office and the hero of the budget surplus story was the stock bubble, not President Clinton's tax or budget policies. The point of bringing it up is that economic growth is dependent on what the rich people are doing with their money. clinton raised taxes in a time of plenty don't expect Obama to get the same results.
Not entirely true. Clinton's tax policies did play a part. His little stunts were not working too well, so he finally decided to take a tip from Newt and lower capital gains taxes, and that's what led the great economy.

Tax cuts combined with the technology boom is what was responsible for the economy at the time. The beginning was after the leadership change in Congress led by Newt Gingrich. A balanced budget, a projected surplus, plus a strong economy made those years profitable ones for many Americans. Like any bubble, nothing lasts forever.
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Why is it that Øbama is running against the vice-President nominee? Shouldn't he leave that to Biden? <giggles>
Duke for Mayor

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Aug 21, 2012
 
Far Away wrote:
Why is it that Øbama is running against the vice-President nominee? Shouldn't he leave that to Biden? <giggles>
For some of the same reasons he ran against Sarah Palin last time around the horn.

This week the Akin firmly placed the pubs' feet in the mouth with his idiotic statement, which by the way, comports with the party platform.

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Debt Hold The

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#31
Aug 21, 2012
 
Mr_Bill wrote:
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Not really.
Ryan is only represiding "TRICKLE DOWN, or 'supply side economics' which we have seen fail under Hover, Coolidge, Reagan, and Bush II.
Trickle down is a dead, false, disproved theory; but that is Ryan's one idea. More trickle down.
And, Ryan's trickle down is just to increase the taxes paid by the suffering American middle class, while cutting the taxes of the rich.
I do not wish to, and cannot subsidize very rich guys. But, that is all Ryan offers.
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“So first there are programs I would eliminate. Obamacare being one of them but also various subsidy programs — the Amtrak subsidy, the PBS subsidy, the subsidy for the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Endowment for the Humanities,” Romney told Fortune.

He added,“Some of these things, like those endowment efforts and PBS I very much appreciate and like what they do in many cases, but I just think they have to stand on their own rather than receiving money borrowed from other countries, as our government does on their behalf.”
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allow the dumbing down to begin!
Romney/Ryan 2012!
xxxrayted

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Far Away wrote:
Why is it that Øbama is running against the vice-President nominee? Shouldn't he leave that to Biden? <giggles>
What can he run against Romney? Dog cage on the roof of his car? Legally paid all his taxes? Gave a gay kid a haircut in high school even though nobody knew he was gay at the time?

It's called red meat. Something new in the blender. DumBama has little to run on with accomplishments, so the lib strategy is to do what they can to cut down the other side--even if it means lying about it.
Debt Hold The

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Aug 21, 2012
 
Eighthman wrote:
25th in math and science? Democrats and their failed overpaid unions can go F themselves.
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Duke for Mayor

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Aug 21, 2012
 
xxxrayted wrote:
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What can he run against Romney? Dog cage on the roof of his car? Legally paid all his taxes? Gave a gay kid a haircut in high school even though nobody knew he was gay at the time?
It's called red meat. Something new in the blender. DumBama has little to run on with accomplishments, so the lib strategy is to do what they can to cut down the other side--even if it means lying about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:U.S._Employ...

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Duke for Mayor

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#37
Aug 21, 2012
 
Far Away wrote:
Why is it that Øbama is running against the vice-President nominee? Shouldn't he leave that to Biden? <giggles>
By the way. Please wrap a fence around Alaska to keep the Palins there.

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Debt Hold The

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Duke for Mayor wrote:
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By the way. Please wrap a fence around Alaska to keep the Palins there.
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Robert

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Aug 21, 2012
 
anneutral wrote:
“So first there are programs I would eliminate. Obamacare being one of them but also various subsidy programs — the Amtrak subsidy, the PBS subsidy, the subsidy for the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Endowment for the Humanities,” Romney told Fortune.
He added,“Some of these things, like those endowment efforts and PBS I very much appreciate and like what they do in many cases, but I just think they have to stand on their own rather than receiving money borrowed from other countries, as our government does on their behalf.”
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allow the dumbing down to begin!
Romney/Ryan 2012!
don't forget the department of education, jimmy carter signed the legislation creating it in 1979. I don't see that the education since then has produced smarter students, in fact I think it is worse, what about the generations educated before 1979 were they that stupid? I think we can axe the whole department,
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#42
Aug 21, 2012
 
It must really suck to be Barack Obama knowing that the glow has worn off and he's just a few months from the end of his one term, walking away as the biggest failure in US history.

Obama makes Jimmy Carter look like a superstar.
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#43
Aug 21, 2012
 
http://youtu.be/P36x8rTb3jI

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Aug 22, 2012
 
mjjcpa wrote:
Liberals have destroyed our education system.
NYC has a 25% graduation rate because surrendercrats give generational welfare to illiterate teens to spawn future felons by the half dozen... just as long as they vote Demorat come election day.
The prisons in CA are so overcrowded 30,000 felons have been ordered to be released early. That's 3 divisions of hardened criminals. We took baghdad with 2. In jail, the convicts brag about how many illegitamate kids they have. Just don't confuse them by asking them names or birthdays.
How did liberals destroy the education system. GWB started No Child Left Behind which was the basis for incredible failure including test cheating by school administrators in order to keep up with outrageous standards.

Like everything else George Bush did, NCLB was a dismal failure. Politicians have no business being involved in education.

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