Pension pushback

Pfluger the Union Monkey wrote:

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But no response to the articles I have posted? Ok, Skippy.

I may have been persuaded by some of your proof, but you lost me when you resort to namecalling, Skippy II.And if lifelong health benefits are so real, it seems like my district must offer them.And they don't.so what gives,SkippyII?

Common Sense wrote:
<quoted text>People often complain about this point. The employee looks at having to pay an amount for the family coverage to show that they are not getting "free" healthcare.

The employee is getting "free" healthcare, but having to pay for "family" / spousal coverage.
My brother and his wife both work for the State of NY and have no children and they decided to keep individual policies because the coverage was then "free", to get a family plan would have cost money and provided the same coverage as they presently have.

Thomas Paine wrote:

<quoted text>I will agree with your point, but when the discussion arose about health care insurance for life, my school district does not offer that perk to us. I know that other districts have negotiated the point through contract talks, but it doesn't happen in all districts.

I have no problem with that as I know that various districts offer different benefits based upon what they believe they can afford to pay.

The problem is that many people are unwilling to see that these very generous benefits were given at a time when healthcare was very affordable.

The problem now is that people look at healthcare as a right more then a benefit and they want everything from low to no co-pays to the most advanced treatments available and they want it on their insurance. This drives the price to insure an employee up so that now the yearly premiums can be $10,000 for a family plan.

Many people with insurance balk at having to pay co-pays over even a percentage of the insurances cost.

When it comes to administrators they bargain in other things in place of the healthcare benefits. If you are covered on a spouse's plan they ask for more vacation or a larger car allowance. The administrators are not giving up anything.

The only analysis that radiates from your posts is that you are TOTALLY DEPENDENT upon a system which is a massive sink hole that is a immoral drain on hard working public sector workers who are having to foregoing saving for their own retirement to pay for yours. That needs to change now.

Pfluger the Union Monkey wrote:

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But no response to the articles I have posted? Ok, Skippy.