Mother defends Miss Nevada's pro-nuclear dump stance

It is about time some oen stood up to the double talk of the politicians of Nevada.

Bring the repository on!!!!

Yes, it is a burden.

But we gotta place to assist the entire USA and park the stuff for 10,000 years.

Something about one for all and all for one comes to mind. Harry Reid would never understand.

Miss Nevada was right and so is her mother. Egregious political bias should not be injected into such contests by ignorant and pompous charlatans.

Negative health effects from the spent fuel repository are impossible. On the other hand, numerous acceptable technologies and practices have been shown to have negative health effects and thousands of deaths. Yet the myopic questioners didn't ask any contestants if air travel, automobiles, coal burning, gambling or vaccinations should be halted. The politicians want to destroy the US so that they can continue to roll in their ill-gotten wealth and power.

Donnie wrote:

Miss Nevada was right and so is her mother. Egregious political bias should not be injected into such contests by ignorant and pompous charlatans.

Whoa, big words there, Donnie. I'm not sure someone who lives all the way over there in the state that's high in the middle and round on both ends should pipe up about Nevada specific issues.

Emily wrote:

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Whoa, big words there, Donnie. I'm not sure someone who lives all the way over there in the state that's high in the middle and round on both ends should pipe up about Nevada specific issues.

Recognizing accurate opinions and biased attacks are not Nevada-specific issues. Nevada sucks money and energy out of all the rest of the states, so it is about time they did a little something for the whole nation.

You know Don, I don’t really care what your opinion is when it comes to where you think the waste should be dumped, but more of why it is you assume it should be here in Nevada.

Donnie wrote:

<quoted text>Nevada sucks money and energy out of all the rest of the states, so it is about time they did a little something for the whole nation.

Every state has its economic impact on our nation, so spare me the diatribe of what a burden Nevada is on you (as I’m sure it affects you directly). I would assume you would be educated in the benefits Nevada provides for the rest of the country if you have educated yourself on our state’s downfalls. Or maybe you would know just how we have done “a little something for the whole nation”, but I would be wrong, wouldn’t I?

Look around you? What metals do you see? Considering Nevada produces more gold than any other state in the union (2nd in silver), chances are you are wearing a piece of us now. This being said, the Robinson District in Ely/Ruth holds one of the largest open mine pits not only in the nation, but in the world. Small communities like Ely, Elko, Eureka, Battle and Round Mountain- They’re all cow counties pulling their weight.

The world’s best fighter pilots are members of the US Armed Forces and those fighter pilots are trained in Nevada (the NSAWC, NAS Fallon - Part of which you would recognize as TOPGUN). This state is filled with small town Army depots and not so secret military facilities all doing their part.

In the 1950’s Nevada was the very “fortunate” recipient of your take one for the team attitude. As a result of radioactive fallout from the over 900 nuclear tests which occurred at the Nevada Test Site, thousands of Nevadans have lost their lives to cancer. But I guess it was time that we as a state did something for the rest of the nation, right? Do yourself a favor… Google search “Downwinders” and share your opinion with them. I am sure they would love to hear how you seem to think we have yet to pay our fair share.

Yucca Mountain is a personal fight for some of us. We don’t expect you to understand because you don’t live here. And even if you have visited our state, I imagine you have not been north of Vegas or east of Reno. The state of Nevada is not a Road Runner cartoon with barren deserts and Wile E. Coyote. And you’re right. It not a Nevada-specific issue… to you. But that’s just it! This is just an “issue” to you- No more than something to debate in an attempt to keep yourself entertained.

So you’ll have to be somewhat patient with us expendable Nevadans if some of us take this a little “Nevada-specific.” Nuclear waste (nuclear waste, Don) is not traveling through the towns where your families live in order to be buried in your backyard.

Nick in NV wrote:

As a result of radioactive fallout from the over 900 nuclear tests which occurred at the Nevada Test Site, thousands of Nevadans have lost their lives to cancer.

Although "downwinders" is a catchy name, it is unlikely that anyone in Nevada lost their lives to cancer due to radioactive fallout from the nuclear tests. If you compare the cancer mortality rates in Nevada with the other states for the period from 1950 to 1969, you will see that most states had the same rate or higher mortality rates than Neveda. For example, for women the rate in Nevada was 125 per 100,000, the same as Virginia, Louisiana, Montana and Oregan. Not nearly as high as New Jersey with 156 per 100,000 or Rhode Island with 151 per 100,000. For thyroid cancer and leukimia, the cancers most likely to be caused by radioactive fallout, the rates in Neveda were even lower relative to other states. You can check it out yourself at:
http://cancercontrolplanet.cancer.gov/atlas/i...

Donnie wrote:

<quoted text>Although "downwinders" is a catchy name, it is unlikely that anyone in Nevada lost their lives to cancer due to radioactive fallout from the nuclear tests.

Well, Doctor- The United States governement would beg to differ with you...

http://www.usdoj.gov/civil/torts/const/reca/a...

Nick in NV wrote:

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Well, Doctor- The United States governement would beg to differ with you...

http://www.usdoj.gov/civil/torts/const/reca/a...

Politics trumps science any day. Congress spending other peoples money to buy votes is nothing new. The United States government site that I linked to has nothing to do with politics. It just lists the factual information on the lower rates of cancers in Neveda and the other so-called downwinder states.

Donnie wrote:

Miss Nevada was right and so is her mother. Egregious political bias should not be injected into such contests by ignorant and pompous charlatans.

Negative health effects from the spent fuel repository are impossible. On the other hand, numerous acceptable technologies and practices have been shown to have negative health effects and thousands of deaths. Yet the myopic questioners didn't ask any contestants if air travel, automobiles, coal burning, gambling or vaccinations should be halted. The politicians want to destroy the US so that they can continue to roll in their ill-gotten wealth and power.

Donnie maybe we should relocate all of this waste to Ohio, like maybe your back yard..Its easy to run your mouth when you are 3000 miles away

Big Deeeeeee wrote:

<quoted text>Donnie maybe we should relocate all of this waste to Ohio, like maybe your back yard..Its easy to run your mouth when you are 3000 miles away

I would really like it actually in my real back yard. But they won't put it there. Ed Watzl and Dr. James Lovelock have also requested that spent fuel be stored in their actual back yards. Check it out at
http://ecolo.org/base/baseen.htm

By the way I have been three feet away from spent fuel and it was no big deal. I had a radiation meter with me at the time. It showed only normal background radiation. Of course, normal background radiation in Ohio isn't as high as it is in Nevada. Once the spent fuel is in Nevada, you won't be able to get that close unless you get a job at Yucca Mountain. A lot of Nevada folk will get good jobs there.

Whatever

Whatever

"If you compare the cancer mortality rates in Nevada with the other states for the period from 1950 to 1969"

... you will be ignoring cancer's long latency period to make your case.

Phil McCracken wrote:

"If you compare the cancer mortality rates in Nevada with the other states for the period from 1950 to 1969"
... you will be ignoring cancer's long latency period to make your case.

No, I was trying to pick the most appropriate time period to consider both short and long latency cancers, given the period of atmospheric testing.

However, I would be happy to consider other periods. Thyroid cancer (from radioactive Iodine isotopes) and leukemia (from general radiation exposure to all other radioactive isotopes) are the cancers most associated with fallout radiation. What do you think the latency periods are for those cancers and what are the bases for the latency periods? Do you have information on other cancers that might be associated with nuclear weapons testing fallout. If so what are the postulated latency periods for those cancers?

What is the factor in thailand that is making there people come up with all kinds of cancers that they have previously not had?

This can't be true ?? I was looking up isotopes and found this article.From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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The sterile atomic fly, one kind of sterile insect technique, is an innovative solution to the problem of sleeping sickness, and is being developed by the United Nations and the International Atomic Energy Agency, building on their experience of similar programs over past decades against the fruit fly in Australia and Africa.

Sleeping sickness or African trypanosomiasis is a parasitic disease in humans. Caused by protozoa of genus Trypanosoma and transmitted by the Tsetse fly, the disease is endemic in certain regions of Sub-Saharan Africa, covering about 36 countries and 60 million people. It is estimated that 300,000 - 500,000 people are infected, and about 40,000 die every year. Three major epidemics have occurred in the past hundred years, in 1896 - 1906, 1920, and 1970.

Studies of the tsetse fly show that females generally only mate once in their lifetimes and very rarely mate a second time. Once a female fly has mated, she can then produce continual offspring throughout her short life.

Using this information, the International Atomic Energy Agency has developed a process of irradiating male Tsetse flies that have been specially bred. This process of irradiation sterilizes the male. These sterilized male flies are then released into areas where sleeping sickness is prevalent, and then mate with the females. Because the male is sterile, and the females mate only once, the population of Tsetse flies in the affected area will drop. Studies have shown that this process has been very effective in preventing Sleeping sickness in people who live in the area.

Since sleeping sickness is fatal without treatment and infected people can be without symptoms for months, the release of sterile atomic flies into affected areas leads to greater levels of health and economic activity.

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Rebecca wrote:

This can't be true?

The overall story is true. The process has been in use for many years. Why do you think that it can't be true?

Rebecca wrote:

The sterile atomic fly,

This part is a little misleading. Although the fly is irradiated and sterile, it is no more atomic after irradiation then it was before irradiation. But this is just another of the many ways that radiation saves lives. Radiation can cause sterility in any insect or animal. Depending on the dose, it can be temporary or permanent.

Rebecca wrote:

What is the factor in thailand that is making there people come up with all kinds of cancers that they have previously not had?

What kinds are they? It could be a virus from increased tourism, or it could be that people are living longer because they are not dying as much from other causes. It could also be improved diagnosis and understanding of causes of death.

I wonder what Australia is doing about the bed bug problem that they have spent millions on fixing. The cure in nature is usually right close to the cause. Melelucca Alterfornia is a tree that the oil is derived from. You can buy it for 4.96 at Wal-Mart and is a natural antibiotic, viricide and fungicide. It will also kill head lice. They claim will kill strep in a test tube in 60 seconds. Or we could sterilize all the male bed bugs and there will be no offspring. We could make atomic bed bugs !! That sounds so encouraging the potential to sterilize certain populations. That must be why they want to put this shit on Indian reservations. Then there has to be no accounting to the native Americans fo all the royalties owed to them that was never kept account of. HUM
Who else are we going to give the gift of nuclear power? I read that 80% of the American population has been exposed to radiation through fallout. You can download on the net all the nuclear acidents through out history. If we just sterilize certain populations no problem. heh so we can understand the cycle of economics.

The really hilarious one was the 75 year old man getting an implant to help him stop smoking. There were 8 million in grants for this project. He looked pretty good for 75 smoking all those cigaretts. Maybe more people should smoke. I was reading the history of medicine in the US and a physician said he chewed or used tobacco anytime there was a plague and he never got the plague. Many diseases are caused by parasites, carried by flees and insects. Tobacco has been used for a very long time to worm animals. It is a natural insecticide mixed with detergent. It is also a systemic. ETC