Maine Bishop Grateful For Gay Marriage Vote

Nov 4, 2009 Full story: WMTW-TV 60

The leader of the Roman Catholic Church in Maine is thanking the state's voters for repealing the state's gay marriage law.

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Concerned Human Being

Kelseyville, CA

#41 Nov 6, 2009
ManM said "It is very interesting when people in the homosexual lifestyle assume that because you disagree with them and act off of your principles, that your motivation is hate or that you are religious. I posted in another forum that I believe that it is a matter of conscience and morals, not about hatred and not always about religion. "

well, I am a heterosexual who recognizes that all human beings are worthy of love, you talk like your hate is love but it is what it is, hate.

The prominent hate filled agenda is the one orchestrated by religious homophobes and needs to be recognized for what it is. HATE not LOVE!
eric

Denver, CO

#42 Nov 6, 2009
ManM wrote:
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It is very interesting when people in the homosexual lifestyle assume that because you disagree with them and act off of your principles, that your motivation is hate or that you are religious. I posted in another forum that I believe that it is a matter of conscience and morals, not about hatred and not always about religion.
Thank God you're here! Please describe the "homosexual lifestyle"; I've always wanted to know what it was. Thanks.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#43 Nov 6, 2009
Concerned Human Being wrote:
ManM said "It is very interesting when people in the homosexual lifestyle assume that because you disagree with them and act off of your principles, that your motivation is hate or that you are religious. I posted in another forum that I believe that it is a matter of conscience and morals, not about hatred and not always about religion. "
well, I am a heterosexual who recognizes that all human beings are worthy of love, you talk like your hate is love but it is what it is, hate.
The prominent hate filled agenda is the one orchestrated by religious homophobes and needs to be recognized for what it is. HATE not LOVE!
This dogged insistence in labelling people who oppose gay marriage as "haters" obviously ins't helping at the polls, is it?

If you want people to learn about and support your cause, calling them names isn't a good icebreaker. It may make you feel better, but it doesn't help.
nina

Ottawa, Canada

#44 Nov 6, 2009
Red Rob Reb wrote:
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You have the same equal rights that I do. The right to marry one person of the opposite sex, subject to age, consent, status, etc...
What you want is another special right for homosexuals.
that is the most retarded response you could have made

do you really want me, a lesbian, to marry your male relative and make his life a misery?

potentially have kids with him and eventually divorce, ruining a lot of lives?

how can you expect people to do such an evil thing to others?
eric

Fairfield, CT

#45 Nov 6, 2009
I'll bet there are a lot of people in Maine who feel dirty and ashamed for voting Yes on 1
nina

Ottawa, Canada

#46 Nov 6, 2009
ManM wrote:
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It is very interesting when people in the homosexual lifestyle assume that because you disagree with them and act off of your principles, that your motivation is hate or that you are religious. I posted in another forum that I believe that it is a matter of conscience and morals, not about hatred and not always about religion.
Okay then - kindly explain which moral framework you are using to make a moral determination that gays should be legally barred from marraige.

and explain the moral basis for this denial.

without invoking any religion.

“Down To Earth”

Since: Apr 07

Indianapolis

#47 Nov 6, 2009
ManM wrote:
<quoted text>
It is very interesting when people in the homosexual lifestyle assume that because you disagree with them and act off of your principles, that your motivation is hate or that you are religious. I posted in another forum that I believe that it is a matter of conscience and morals, not about hatred and not always about religion.
I would be curious to know what you are basing your morals on. What is the source of your principles and motivation?

“Down To Earth”

Since: Apr 07

Indianapolis

#48 Nov 6, 2009
Eaglefan9727 wrote:
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You are absolutely right with your comment. If it went the other way. They would NOT be screaming about their so called rights being voted on. They would be saying the people spoke and we won. The gay community are a bunch of losers and will always be a bunch of losers.
That's kind of a silly argument. It's like saying if someone doesn't assault me, I'm not going to press charges. Well... duh!
nina

Ottawa, Canada

#49 Nov 6, 2009
IndyStevie wrote:
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That's kind of a silly argument....
as a citizen of a democratic country with a bill of rights - everyone should be concerned about anyone's rights being put to a vote.
after all, if one group's right are up for referendum, anyone's group's rights are up for it.
http://www.propertyrightsresearch.org/article...
"You tricked me Hangman." I shouted then,
"That your scaffold was built for other men,
and I'm no henchman of yours." I cried.
"You lied to me Hangman, foully lied."
Then a twinkle grew in his buckshot eye,
"Lied to you...tricked you?" He said "Not I...
for I answered straight and told you true.
The scaffold was raised for none but you."
"For who has served more faithfully?
With your coward's hope." said He,
"And where are the others that might have stood
side by your side, in the common good?"
"Dead!" I answered, and amiably
"Murdered," the Hangman corrected me.
"First the alien ... then the Jew.
I did no more than you let me do."
Eaglefan9727

Ware, MA

#50 Nov 7, 2009
IndyStevie wrote:
That's kind of a silly argument. It's like saying if someone doesn't assault me, I'm not going to press charges. Well... duh!
Its not a silly argument, Because you know it would be the truth. Just face the facts.
Red Rob Reb

Saint Louis, MO

#51 Nov 7, 2009
IndyStevie wrote:
<quoted text>Red Rob Reb wrote:
<quoted text>
I live in Missouri where the Supreme court ruled that a slave is a slave no matter where he runs away to.(Dred Scott).
So the fact that the courts in Maine determined gay marriage should be the law does not make it right. The citizens of Maine have spoken, the matter is closed.
I think you'll find that the matter is not closed once it goes before the courts.
So you think there's a chance my family will get its slaves back? They were taken from us in violation of the Constituiton that prohibits taking of property without payment.

“Down To Earth”

Since: Apr 07

Indianapolis

#52 Nov 7, 2009
Red Rob Reb wrote:
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So you think there's a chance my family will get its slaves back? They were taken from us in violation of the Constituiton that prohibits taking of property without payment.
Bring it up for a vote like you did with equal marriage rights and watch the fireworks fly. I double dare you.

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

Since: Nov 08

El Cerrito California

#53 Nov 8, 2009
Red Rob Reb said "So you think there's a chance my family will get its slaves back? They were taken from us in violation of the Constituiton that prohibits taking of property without payment. "

This is an example of the attitude engendered in too much of the populace by the Patriarchal Religious Military Industrial Complex.

This pathetic soul is making light of the suffering of people as they struggle for the inalienable right to be recognized as human beings.

The patriarchal religious belief systems are becoming increasingly difficult to support as scientific information is being found to expose it's insanity.

Homophobia is something that is effecting the quality of life for all of us.

Apathy about human rights being trampled is the tool that gave Hitler the power to do what he did.

Apathy and the fear and control of a violent patriarchal culture where authority was not to be questioned, kind of like the infallible divine authority of Bishops.

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#54 Nov 8, 2009
Red Rob Reb wrote:
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So you think there's a chance my family will get its slaves back? They were taken from us in violation of the Constituiton that prohibits taking of property without payment.
You "lost" your (actually emancipated)slaves by WAR-the south were losers, THAT'S why your slave are gone, not through your family's good morality or religion. Jim Crow was done away with through the COURTS with military back up to enforce it. That's the beauty of America, in this REPUBLIC (not a democracy)there are other ways besides depending on religiously terrorized people. That is why it is a republic-our founding fathers, dealing with Tories KNEW they had to protect the intent of America when Americans lost their way.

“www.benehrmann.c om”

Since: Nov 08

White Suburbia, CA

#55 Nov 8, 2009
Eaglefan9727 wrote:
I thank all the people of Maine who voted yes on 1 for standing up to these creeps (gay community) who think they can just run around the will of the people and get same sex marriage.
Separation of Powers. This country has never been majority rule.

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#56 Nov 8, 2009
I can see the bishop now, dancing around in his dress drinking the communion wine.

“www.benehrmann.c om”

Since: Nov 08

White Suburbia, CA

#57 Nov 8, 2009
No2Reichwing wrote:
I can see the bishop now, dancing around in his dress drinking the communion wine.
And munching on those saltines with his dentures.

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

Since: Nov 08

El Cerrito California

#58 Nov 9, 2009
ActsOFBeauty said "Separation of Powers. This country has never been majority rule. "

Here is a nice series of articles explaining the protections put into the constitution to protect minorities from the type of bully mentality that drives block voting by religious groups against a minority and why contrary to the belief of most people that we are not a democracy :

part 1:

http://www.examiner.com/x-3704-Columbia-Conse...

Part 2:

http://www.examiner.com/x-3704-Columbia-Conse...

Part 3:

http://www.examiner.com/x-3704-Columbia-Conse...

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

Since: Nov 08

El Cerrito California

#59 Nov 9, 2009
from the above posted url part 3:

"For example, there is Benjamin Franklin's famous response to a woman who asked him on the street,'Mr. Franklin, exactly what kind of government have you given us?' His response was direct and to the point--'A Republic, if you can keep it.'"

“Fight bigotry.”

Since: Feb 07

Toms River, NJ

#60 Nov 9, 2009
My sister can marry the consenting adult male of her choice, I cannot. We are not seeking special rights, just the same rights that my sister has.
Red Rob Reb wrote:
<quoted text>
You have the same equal rights that I do. The right to marry one person of the opposite sex, subject to age, consent, status, etc...
What you want is another special right for homosexuals.

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